Re: [Toolserver-l] Survey: Moving to Labs

2013-05-02 Thread DaB.
Hello, At Thursday 02 May 2013 15:29:07 DaB. wrote: I'm confused. I thought we were all here to support the readers, editors, researchers and developers of the Wikimedia projects? If the toolserver is empty because Labs is accomplishing the goal, isn't that a good thing? I've asked this

Re: [Toolserver-l] Survey: Moving to Labs

2013-05-02 Thread Aaron Halfaker
Hey folks, I usually steer clear of these sort of battles, but it looks like it's time to state the obvious: *we need to work together better*. We're wiki people, damn it. We're the people[1] who figured out how to build an encyclopedia through (effectively) an anonymous system when those with

Re: [Toolserver-l] Survey: Moving to Labs

2013-05-02 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Since I evidently fail at trying to keep my thank-yous offlist: Aaron, thanks for the note. I regret that DaB. and other members of the Toolserver community have gotten changed timelines and confused and changing messages around tools support. It sounds like DaB. and other Toolserver community

Re: [Toolserver-l] Survey: Moving to Labs

2013-05-02 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfa...@gmail.comwrote: Hey folks, I usually steer clear of these sort of battles, but it looks like it's time to state the obvious: *we need to work together better*. We're wiki people, damn it. We're the people[1] who figured out how

[Toolserver-l] Survey: Moving to Labs

2013-05-01 Thread DaB.
Hello all, until now I had the impression that we (you, the authors, and me) fight together against WMF and WMDE for keeping the Toolserver and against Labs. Some mails and discussion in the last days gives me now the impression that this was wrong and (at least some of) you are eager to leave

Re: [Toolserver-l] Survey: Moving to Labs

2013-05-01 Thread Liangent
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:53 AM, DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info wrote: Hello all, until now I had the impression that we (you, the authors, and me) fight together against WMF and WMDE for keeping the Toolserver and against Labs. Some mails and discussion in the last days gives me now the

Re: [Toolserver-l] Survey: Moving to Labs

2013-05-01 Thread Aaron Halfaker
+1 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Liangent liang...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:53 AM, DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info wrote: Hello all, until now I had the impression that we (you, the authors, and me) fight together against WMF and WMDE for keeping the Toolserver and

Re: [Toolserver-l] Survey: Moving to Labs

2013-05-01 Thread Tim Landscheidt
(anonymous) wrote: until now I had the impression that we (you, the authors, and me) fight together against WMF and WMDE for keeping the Toolserver and against Labs. Some mails and discussion in the last days gives me now the impression that this was wrong and (at least some of) you are eager

Re: [Toolserver-l] Survey: Moving to Labs

2013-05-01 Thread seth
Hi! On 01.05.2013 22:02, Liangent wrote: On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:53 AM, DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info wrote: [1] https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Labs-Moving-Survey I wish there were an option saying move when XXX and YYY features are available and / or provided better on Labs. Actually I's

Re: [Toolserver-l] Survey: Moving to Labs

2013-05-01 Thread Liangent
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Tim Landscheidt t...@tim-landscheidt.de wrote: (anonymous) wrote: until now I had the impression that we (you, the authors, and me) fight together against WMF and WMDE for keeping the Toolserver and against Labs. Some mails and discussion in the last days gives

Re: [Toolserver-l] Survey: Moving to Labs

2013-05-01 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:53 PM, DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info wrote: Hello all, until now I had the impression that we (you, the authors, and me) fight together against WMF and WMDE for keeping the Toolserver and against Labs. Some mails and discussion in the last days gives me now the

Re: [Toolserver-l] Survey: Moving to Labs

2013-05-01 Thread Platonides
On 01/05/13 21:53, DaB. wrote: Hello all, until now I had the impression that we (you, the authors, and me) fight together against WMF and WMDE for keeping the Toolserver and against Labs. Some mails and discussion in the last days gives me now the impression that this was wrong and (at

Re: [Toolserver-l] Survey: Moving to Labs

2013-05-01 Thread MZMcBride
Platonides wrote: Even if labs being ready happens in 2018? ready will vary for each tool, but I foresee a process like this: 1. labs provides all the resources needed for $TOOL 2. $AUTHOR signs up in labs, gets added to the projects, etc. 3. $AUTHOR tests (benchmarks) labs and finds it