Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-26 Thread Danny B .
Perhaps we may be able to make it a cross-tool, which can either be embedded in MediaWiki or standalone (I'm not aware of any extension doing that, but it's something I have considered several times myself). CategoryTree was/is sort of that... ___

Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-26 Thread Magnus Manske
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Danny B. wikipedia.dann...@email.cz wrote: Perhaps we may be able to make it a cross-tool, which can either be embedded in MediaWiki or standalone (I'm not aware of any  extension doing that, but it's something I have considered several times myself).

Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-25 Thread Marcin Cieslak
Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/05/12 19:16, DaB. wrote: that's the reason why there is a toolserver: Because the WMF (and the mediawiki-develeopers/techs) can not do everything themself and there are several people with good ideas outside the WMF. So the idea was we give them

Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-25 Thread Platonides
On 25/05/12 23:12, Marcin Cieslak wrote: If some of you needs help moving a php tool into a MediaWiki extension, drop me a line. :) . o O (only not to be allowed to run it on toolserver later?:) Perhaps we may be able to make it a cross-tool, which can either be embedded in MediaWiki or

Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-22 Thread Merlijn van Deen
On 21 May 2012 23:52, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: This madness has to stop. Wikisource depends on this service. I understand the German toolserver is beyond repair, but phe's statistics scripts should be moved to proper WMF servers. This madness has to stop. Wikis should stop

Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-22 Thread Magnus Manske
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Merlijn van Deen valhall...@arctus.nl wrote: On 21 May 2012 23:52, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: This madness has to stop. Wikisource depends on this service. I understand the German toolserver is beyond repair, but phe's statistics scripts should be

Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-22 Thread Platonides
On 22/05/12 11:22, Merlijn van Deen wrote: How do we make sure tools do not disappear? By making multi-maintainer projects for them. However, we see that this doesn't happen enough - see also the thread about the expiration of soxred93's account. Options for improvement: - better

Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-22 Thread Magnus Manske
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/05/12 11:22, Merlijn van Deen wrote: How do we make sure tools do not disappear? By making multi-maintainer projects for them. However, we see that this doesn't happen enough - see also the thread about the

Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-22 Thread Lars Aronsson
On 2012-05-22 11:22, Merlijn van Deen wrote: This madness has to stop. Wikis should stop depending on services that are not hosted in multi-maintainer projects! This would be an improvement over the current status, but it is not sufficient. It's terrible that we depend on a single user, but

Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-22 Thread DaB.
Hello, At Tuesday 22 May 2012 19:00:14 DaB. wrote: We have got the WMF and its staff to keep things running, and that's where this kind of statistics belongs. The WMF are carefully considering whether new projects should be started, they have agreed that Wikisource should be started (in 2003)

Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-22 Thread Magnus Manske
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:16 PM, DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info wrote: In my eyes the toolserver developed behind this original idea and is now a good place to host stuff even when it is done Just like Wikipedia was to Nupedia. Symmetry! :-) ___

Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-22 Thread Platonides
On 22/05/12 19:16, DaB. wrote: that's the reason why there is a toolserver: Because the WMF (and the mediawiki-develeopers/techs) can not do everything themself and there are several people with good ideas outside the WMF. So the idea was we give them a (yes 1 ;-)) server and they can hosts

[Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-21 Thread Lars Aronsson
http://toolserver.org/~phe/statistics.php now says 403: User account expired This madness has to stop. Wikisource depends on this service. I understand the German toolserver is beyond repair, but phe's statistics scripts should be moved to proper WMF servers. Back in April, I copied one set of

Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver user phe account expired

2012-05-21 Thread K. Peachey
Toolserver users need to renew their accounts every so often[1] (Three monthly is combing to mind, but someone else would need to confirm (and they are given warnings I believe)), and if a user fails to do that it is automatically locked, It's unfair to all TS users if user accounts are allowed to