Topband: 160m Band Utilization Chart updated: 15 November 2012

2012-11-15 Thread Ian Wade G3NRW
The 160m Band Utilization Chart has been updated. It now shows the JT9 dial frequency at 1.8395 MHz. The chart is at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/160m_band_utilization.htm The chart is still sparse on detail, so if you have anything to add to it, please let me know: mailto:

Re: Topband: Vertical Array Over Uneven Ground

2012-11-15 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
CU on the 525 foot band, Carl? Seriously, I suspect that the reason why many of us work in meters when modeling is simply that some of the most useful software products default to that. 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at

Re: Topband: 8877 Tube

2012-11-15 Thread John Harden
The Alpha 77-SX is a great amplifier with plenty of reserve. The plate voltage runs just under 4KV on the Hi-Power position. If you go to the larger transformers you are asking for trouble. The filter capacitor has to be changed to one with a 5 KV rating. When you do this you will push circuit

Re: Topband: Vertical Array Over Uneven Ground

2012-11-15 Thread Lennart M
GM Pete et al: That metric stuff is widely used around the globe. Cu on 459 ft. 73 Len SM7BIC On 11/14/2012 3:48 PM, ZR wrote: I cant find the button to convert that metric stuff to good old USA measurements when posted from this country(-: ___

Re: Topband: Vertical Array Over Uneven Ground

2012-11-15 Thread shristov
PoĊĦiljalac: Lennart M lennart.michaels...@telia.com That metric stuff is widely used around the globe. It's fun to learn that Dr. Maxwell, the inventor of electromagnetic waves, had used metric units exclusively 200 years ago. So, why we cannot do the same today? 73, Sinisa YT1NT, VE3EA

Re: Topband: TX/ RX Antenna Switching

2012-11-15 Thread Tom W8JI
If something goes wrong in the RX antenna switch, you don't have to worry about the rig transmitting into its own receiver. That can't happen. The only thing that can happen is that you could damage the antenna or its preamp. The reed relay is just like the one in your radio, so it shouldn't

Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread Bruce
Dry blowing snow or high wind can cause quite some voltage build up on a antenna, especially a long one. It is possible to draw quite an arc to ground. There have been reports of high voltage electrocutions from antenna static build up in Short Wave Broadcast stations. A short stick was

Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread Mike Waters
Why not prevent the static buildup in the first place? I use 33K resistors from each wire to ground. Schematic is at http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html . The components in parallel with the 33K resistors are 90 volt gas discharge tubes, and the resistors are to prolong the life of those

Topband: V84SMD

2012-11-15 Thread f6bki
Hello all, looks like V84SMD is not very active on 160 ! Do we know why ? thank you Jacques F6BKI ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com

Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread Eddy Swynar
On 2012-11-15, at 3:42 PM, Bruce wrote: Dry blowing snow or high wind can cause quite some voltage build up on a antenna, especially a long one. It is possible to draw quite an arc to ground. There have been reports of high voltage electrocutions from antenna static build up in Short

Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread Bruce
Good point Mike, but I am hoping someone has done definitive testing between insulated and un-insulated wire concerning voltage build up. If the voltage is lower with insulated wire there is less to bleed off, and possibly lower noise activity. http://www.qsl.net/k1fz/beveragenotes.html

Topband: Pennant Transformer

2012-11-15 Thread Frank Davis
Many tnx to all who replied offline with advice and help. I am on the right track and hope to complete the project today. 73 Frank VO1HP --- I am in the process of building a pennant. I'm stuck on the

Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread Eddy Swynar
On 2012-11-15, at 4:35 PM, Bruce wrote: Good point Mike, but I am hoping someone has done definitive testing between insulated and un-insulated wire concerning voltage build up. If the voltage is lower with insulated wire there is less to bleed off, and possibly lower noise activity.

Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread Bruce
Hi Eddy, Yes, above some voltage all insulators let high voltage through. Most common wire insulation is only good for about 600 volts. Take care not to become a bleeder resistor. Your idea of the RF choke is better than resistors to ground as there should be lower signal loss. GUD DX OM. See

Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread Mike Waters
Hi Bruce, Sure, and I'd be interested in knowing that, too. :-) I should add that the GDTs were added after a lighting hit in the vicinity caused windings to open up on the transformers. The GDTs were to prevent that, and the resistors were to minimize the number of times that the GDTs conducted

Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread Tom W8JI
Out of curiosity, has anyone ever really done testing of voltage buildup on a insulated antenna wire, VS a non-insulated wire ? Indoor antennas VS outdoor antennas of equal size? I tested this extensively years ago, and there was no difference at all except if the insulation was in an area

Topband: Limiters - not T/R Relays

2012-11-15 Thread Brian Moran
I'm more interested in the 'limiters' aspect of the other thread. Back-to-back diodes == bad, but am looking for something to better tame RF coming in on my beverages, or whatever leaks by the bandpass filters on the 'other' station antenna in a multi-multi. Some sort of saturable transformer

Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread Bruce
Hi Tom, Thank you for the information, It sounds very convincing. As you have said it is difficult to get a A-B test unless instant switching or direct observation is available. I was hoping for a test something like, side by side identical wires, one insulated, and one un-insulated with

Re: Topband: Limiters - not T/R Relays

2012-11-15 Thread Rick Karlquist
Brian Moran wrote: Some sort of saturable transformer design, like http://www.arraysolutions.com/Products/as_rxfep.htm ? What is interesting about this is that it uses T1-6 transformers, which I have been using and recommending for years for RX antenna use. I have repeatedly been told that

Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread Tom W8JI
As you have said it is difficult to get a A-B test unless instant switching or direct observation is available. The purpose of my test was to see if p-static was caused by individual charged particles as they hit the wire, or some other mechanism like corona discharge into the charged air or

Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread Bruce
Tom, Thank you for your research and information. You have me convinced My much lower BOG Beverage has a better signal to noise than my taller Beverages in storm events. This aligns to your research. 73 Bruce-K1FZ - Original Message - From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com To: Bruce

Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread Gary Smith
I used to have an ICE model 303 lightning protector which I believe was a gas discharge tube with a toroidal choke in parallel to ground. I recall the toroidal choke was to continually bleed the electrons from the antenna so there would not be a buildup sufficient to cause damage and to not

Re: Topband: Vertical Array Over Uneven Ground

2012-11-15 Thread ZR
Not that Ive noticed. I suspect most Americans are more comfortable with our own measuring system plus our ham bands where antenna formulas are still published in feet and inches. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Pete Smith N4ZR n...@contesting.com To: topband@contesting.com

Re: Topband: 230+ QSLs On LOW Dipole - There's Hope!

2012-11-15 Thread Buck wh7dx
I did a search for K2UO here and didn't see anything recent, so I thought I would post the article again for those with Low Dipoles or tight spaces. Mentioned in ON4UN's book. http://vss.pl/lf/14.pdf K2UO was #61 for North America (2009) with an antenna that is 12-30ft high on flat land was

Re: Topband: Limiters - not T/R Relays

2012-11-15 Thread ZR
Ive made several contacts up to about 2500 miles (West from NH) running 100W into a single 750' #12 copperweld Beverage up about 8' using a FT114-43 autotransformer back in the 80's at a prior home. These were mostly on CW during contests; the terminator was a 600 Ohm 100W NI resistor and the

Re: Topband: Vertical Array Over Uneven Ground

2012-11-15 Thread N1BUG
I suspect most Americans are more comfortable with our own measuring system plus our ham bands where antenna formulas are still published in feet and inches. I suspect most (or at least many) Americans are resistant to change and unwilling to give anything different than what they are used to

Re: Topband: Vertical Array Over Uneven Ground

2012-11-15 Thread James Rodenkirch
Gosh, Paul.why don't you simply keep measuring in our system and avoid the obvious mental wedgie you keep forming PLUS you won't be so weary?!?!?! 72, Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:58:48 -0500 From: p...@n1bug.com To: z...@jeremy.mv.com CC: topband@contesting.com

Re: Topband: Vertical Array Over Uneven Ground

2012-11-15 Thread George Dubovsky
All, This argument has been going on ever since I got out of Engineering school, and frankly, it's not going to stop until my generation is gone. I'm an EE and I work in my own machine shop in my (new) retirement. I work in Imperial units because I THINK in Imperial units - it's what I learned as

Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread ZR
Subject: Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire As you have said it is difficult to get a A-B test unless instant switching or direct observation is available. The purpose of my test was to see if p-static was caused by individual charged particles as they hit the wire, or some other

Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire

2012-11-15 Thread ZR
Subject: Re: Topband: Covered /bare antennn wire Tom, Thank you for your research and information. You have me convinced My much lower BOG Beverage has a better signal to noise than my taller Beverages in storm events. This aligns to your research. 73 Bruce-K1FZ That has nothing to do

Re: Topband: Vertical Array Over Uneven Ground

2012-11-15 Thread Ken Claerbout
Since I started this thread, hopefully this will end it. I was talking about a difference on the order of 6' - 9', which I think was understood. But there are always those few that like to stir the pot, no matter how petty. Thanks to those who provided useful feedback. I'll follow up

Topband: Fwd: TX/RX Antenna Switching

2012-11-15 Thread Tree
-- Forwarded message -- From: Herb Schoenbohm he...@vitelcom.net Date: Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:22 PM I used to use at first the MFJ-1026 Noise Canceller/Phaser box in a reverse configuration to bring the RX only antennas in from the Beverage bank. With the RF sense switch there

Re: Topband: Vertical Array Over Uneven Ground

2012-11-15 Thread Raoul Coetzee
Here in South Africa we always had the imperial system till somewhere in the middle sixties and before that we changed from pounds to decimal Rand and cents. It was met with some resistance but soon everybody got used to it. As I have a British lathe and milling machine in my garage /workshop,