Topband: Was leaving, now Found On...

2018-09-05 Thread Gary Smith
FORD Found On Road Dead... Found On Rusting Dumps... :) Sorry, couldn't help myself, good memories from long ago. 73, Gary KA1J > Who in > his right mind would pay good money for a *FORD*! Just kidding of > course. > > 73, > > Bill KU8H _ Topband Reflector Archives

Re: Topband: Private thanks to you on your posting vs W0BTU RE topband Leaving - FT8

2018-09-05 Thread Bill Cromwell
Hi, Those digital modes don't take up a lot of spectrum. Quite a few QSOs can take place in the spectrum passed by an SSB filter. Having them bunched together makes it easier for them to find one another and makes it easier for the rest of us to avoid them QRMing us AND us QRMing them. I am

Re: Topband: Private thanks to you on your posting vs W0BTU RE topband Leaving

2018-09-05 Thread Bryon Paul Veal NØAH
I think the problem is due to limited high Q antennas on top band, every one is more concerned about 30Khz of usable DX bandwidth. I find a lot of topband and is fully underutilized, much like 80M. So we hear a lot QRM for digital ops both on the air and reflectors. I do feel digital modes

Re: Topband: Radial wire

2018-09-05 Thread Kenneth Grimm
If you have a Tractor Supply store near you, the price for 1/4 mile of 17 ga. galvanized electric fence wire is $14.99. You can get 1/2 mile roll for $29.99. Just how long it will last will vary depending on your soil. However, at that price it is worth a try. 73, Ken - K4XL On Wed, Sep 5,

Re: Topband: Radial wire

2018-09-05 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
1/4 mile for $30 is reasonable and would work well for radials. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Acorn-International-EFW1714-1-4-Mile-17-Gauge-Galvanized-Fence-Wire/152465194663?epid=4017419194=item237fa23ea7:g:xOMAAOSw4A5YwFca Herb, KV4FZ On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:00 PM Herbert Schoenbohm <

Re: Topband: RE topband Leaving

2018-09-05 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
This hobby is dead if we keep chasing off people. There is no reason we can't treat people respectfully here.  If you can't then maybe those need to leave or Tree needs to show them the door. W0MU On 9/5/2018 11:01 AM, Jim Thomson wrote: Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 06:13:21 -0400 From: Mark

Re: Topband: RE topband Leaving

2018-09-05 Thread Jim Thomson
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 06:13:21 -0400 From: Mark K3MSB To: Mike Waters Cc: ad4hk2...@yahoo.com, topband , Tree Subject: Re: Topband: RE topband Leaving http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: Radial wire

2018-09-05 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
For a cheap solution for radials is to use buried galvanized barbed wire. It is available for pennies a foot. A preferred way of putting it in is to use a is a Ditch Witch with a vibrating plow attachment that allows the wire to buried with limited handling. Depending on the soil consistency it

Re: Topband: Radial wire

2018-09-05 Thread JC
Hi Guys Stay away from aluminum, the aluminum oxide dielectric is a terrible complication around 2 MHz, it become a capacitor and a diode and will generate a lot of noise in presence RF currents. There is no way to avoid the diodes at the connection with different materials, like at the

Re: Topband: Radial wire

2018-09-05 Thread Grant Saviers
Interesting source.  The 5356 alloy would be the best choice for radial wires since the 5xxx series are of a corrosion resistant aluminum alloy.  5052 is the usual alloy for boat hulls in salt water. OTOH, it seems the cost of 14ga THHN, the fact that it will last forever, and that it is

Re: Topband: Private thanks to you on your posting vs W0BTU RE topband Leaving

2018-09-05 Thread chacuff
Not Helpful... But quite revealing...earning them stripes! CecilK5DL Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" Date: 9/5/18 8:20 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Mark K3MSB Cc: topband , Tree Subject: Topband: Private

Re: Topband: Radial wire

2018-09-05 Thread Tree
Speaking of radial wire - I have recently found a source of it that is very inexpensive. It might not be the best for laying flat - but I have been able to find thousands of feet for like $15. Sorry - this is probably only a USA thing however. Look for your nearest Habitat for Humanity ReStore.

Topband: Private thanks to you on your posting vs W0BTU RE topband Leaving

2018-09-05 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Off the reflector: Thanks Mark for posting this "rebuttal?" to W0BTU. His rules are way too stifling for my tastes. On another reflector, some bozo was going off on me saying I didn't know what I was talking about, etc. when I was trying to give him some friendly advice. The moderator asked me

Re: Topband: Radial wire

2018-09-05 Thread MU 4CX250B
Jeff, I also use THHN 14Awg stranded wire laying flat on the ground. I use brown insulation to match the desert floor, and one or two lawn staples per radial (each is 120 ft long). I'm not certain, but I think I bought it in 5000 ft spools. 73, Jim w8zr Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2018, at

Re: Topband: RE topband Leaving

2018-09-05 Thread Mark K3MSB
I had to go rummage around my Trash folder to find the original post that started this: “From the FT8 arguments in addition to the "millennials causing the WWV shutdown" argument, it appears that the parts of the hobby that I enjoy do not cross paths with those on the topband reflector. Although