Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 06:13:21 -0400 From: Mark K3MSB <mark.k3...@gmail.com> To: Mike Waters <mikew...@gmail.com> Cc: ad4hk2...@yahoo.com, topband <topband@contesting.com>, Tree <t...@kkn.net> Subject: Re: Topband: RE topband Leaving
<I had to go rummage around my Trash folder to find the original post that <started this from the FT8 arguments in addition to the "millennials causing <the WWV shutdown" argument, it appears that the parts of the hobby that I <enjoy do not cross paths with those on the topband reflector. Although I <wish you all many CW DX, it appears that I am no longer welcome and that I <must take my leave.? <I've no idea what the millennial and WWV comment is about as I did not <follow that thread. <So we're back to the old FT8 vs CW argument. Was this person <specifically harassed and hunted down for his views? Shame on the <moderators if that's what happened. Or, did ?the leaver? just not feel <welcomed because others expressed contrary views and wouldn't back off? <73 Mark K3MSB ## I went through it all with a microscope. The fellow in question needs thicker skin, its a simple as that. On some of the car forums I belong to, like the mustang forum, you require really thick skin. ## Everybody is entitled to an observation, comment, point of view, counter argument, etc, etc. I just laughed at the.. millennials causing the wwv shut down...... they have nothing to do with it of course. It was most likely ..tongue in cheek. I use wwv to align my tcxos... using the 20 mhz wwv as 1st choice....and 15 mhz wwv as 2nd choice. ## FT8 vs cw. No brainer there folks. FT8 is a game changer...whether you grasp the concept..or not. Too bad, so sad. ## Remote station on a quiet hilltop.. vs postage stamp sized noisy city lot.. same deal. But remote RX is a big no no. 1.5 kw into a 200 ft tall stacked array on upper bands is ok.... but 5 kw into a dipole is a no-no. Both those last 2 make no sense to me at all. ERP makes more sense. Why is a remote RX a no-no... but a complete RX- TX remote station ok ? Who makes these rules ? ## W8JI is a smart fellow... but he still doesnt know how to construct or design a real CM choke...that actually works and doesnt blow up. Folks could easily hear his 2nd harmonic on 80m...so much for the harmonic suppression in the amps used. He got a lot of it right... and a lot of it is out to lunch. His arguments against the use of ESSB are flawed... unless you use the W8JI convoluted 2 tone test, with extreme tone spacing..which is the only way to get simultaneous high and low freqs. The only other method is program material..like rock n roll. Plane voice wont do it. ## But thats all water under the bridge. WWV is not about to get shut down anytime soon. Nor is FT8 going to be a passing fad. Its here to stay. What do you use to send cw.. a vibroplex..or a keyboard ? Whats next..outlaw skimmers ? Just ignore it. Jim VE7RF _________________ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband