Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-12 Thread Mike Waters
You might be interested in this post, Jim: http://owenduffy.net/blog/?p=2501 ... The Signalink USB turned out to be a disappointment for several reasons but the main one was that the noise floor was almost 20dB higher than an ordinary $10 Creative desktop sound card. ... QST recently carried a

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-03 Thread Mike Waters
Yesterday I decoded a Chinese station on 30m WSPR, at a level of -28. From http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/spots: 2014-09-02 21:34 BZ1UIF 10.140268 -28 0 ND81 5 W0BTU EM37 17566 158 According to something you said in your interface PDF, the -28 seems to indicate that I already have a

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-03 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed,9/3/2014 2:39 AM, Mike Waters wrote: Yesterday I decoded a Chinese station on 30m WSPR, at a level of -28. From http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/spots: 2014-09-02 21:34 BZ1UIF 10.140268 -28 0 ND81 5 W0BTU EM37 17566 158 According to something you said in your interface PDF,

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-03 Thread Eric NO3M
-33 is the lowest I've personally decoded, been decoded, and have seen between others. Currently running WSPR4 in Linux with a Microham MK2R+ (built in USB soundcard). 73 Eric NO3M / WG2XJM On 09/03/2014 01:41 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Wed,9/3/2014 2:39 AM, Mike Waters wrote: Yesterday I

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-02 Thread Mike Waters
Thanks for all the additional advice, Gentlemen. I understand about audio levels, filtering, etc. :-) My sound card (old Creative labs unit, IIRC) interface is just a couple of audio transformers removed from old 56k PCI telephone modems, with some pads and pots. I'll check out your interface

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-02 Thread Charlie
Langridge Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:26 PM To: Mike Waters; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X? Mike, WSPR uses a low baud rate interleving process plus averaging to fight through noisy weak signal condx. The worse thing you can do is run excessive

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-02 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue,9/2/2014 8:46 PM, Charlie wrote: Could I run WSPR with my FT-1000 MP and a computer, if I turn the power down to 5 watts or so? What would I need? Probably want to run Windows 7 PRO? WSPR is not at all demanding of computers or operating system, but it helps to have a good sound card

Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-01 Thread Mike Waters
Is anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X on 160m? It just caught my attention. Looks like a great tool to see if any DX paths are open, and motivate one to call CQ DX when they are. WSPR home page: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wspr.html Who's on, propagation map - Text:

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-01 Thread James Wolf
-Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Waters Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 6:44 AM To: topband Subject: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X? Is anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X on 160m? It just caught my attention. Looks like a great tool to see

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-01 Thread Larry
WSPR and WSPRnet.org are fantastic tools. Used properly, they make the Reverse Beacon network look like a kids toy. I have used the WSPR system to watch propagation and evaluate both TX and RX antenna systems on several bands. On 160 meters, using a gold standard partner station to compare

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-01 Thread Milt -- N5IA
: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X? SNIP I have used the WSPR system to watch propagation and evaluate both TX and RX antenna systems on several bands. On 160 meters, using a gold standard partner station to compare against and averaging data taken over a week long period, I have been able

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-01 Thread Larry
Milt, Are you familiar with WSPR, it's setup, operation, and it's relationship to WSPRnet? If not, then details won't help much. In a nutshell, it involves collecting data. Thousands, perhaps even tens of thousands of data points for both the station under evaluation and the gold standard

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-01 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,9/1/2014 8:36 AM, Larry wrote: I have used the WSPR system to watch propagation and evaluate both TX and RX antenna systems on several bands. On 160 meters, using a gold standard partner station to compare against and averaging data taken over a week long period, I have been able to

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-01 Thread Larry
Jim, Participation varies. At the moment there are more active WSPR stations on 630 meters than on 160! But as we roll into winter there will more show up. It is important to remember that this is a long term project, I.E. you need to set up and monitor for hours, days, even weeks to really

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-01 Thread Mike Waters
Thanks for the input. I have WSPR 2.12 installed and working on 30 meters in RX-only mode. I see it's uploading my spots to wsprnet.org. If all goes well, tonight I'll switch to 160. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-01 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,9/1/2014 10:57 AM, Larry wrote: The most important thing to remember is that you absolutely need a second station as a partner in order to eliminate propagation effects. Otherwise you are not comparing two antennas, but just sampling prop. The other thing to remember is that you need a

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-01 Thread Mike Waters
How well does WSPR work when the band is full of static crashes? If so, is 100 watts too much with 20 over 9 QRN? Just trying to learn. I have it working both RX and TX (5W) on 30 meters right now. :-) 73, Mike www.w0btu.com _ Topband Reflector Archives -

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-01 Thread John Langridge
! John KB5NJD / WG2XIQ From: Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com To: topband topband@contesting.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X? How well does WSPR work when the band is full of static crashes? If so

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-01 Thread Larry
Normally, I run 5 or 10 watts TX output on 160 meters depending on the specifics of the particular run. On 30 meters it's kinda dumb to run more than 5 watts out unless your antenna is a light bulb in the basement. I have on occasion run 100 watts on 160 but if you need to do that because of

Re: Topband: Anyone using WSPR or WSPR-X?

2014-09-01 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,9/1/2014 12:30 PM, Larry wrote: Be very careful about audio levels. Also, use a good A/D converter to get the RX audio into your computer. Several good, inexpensive USB sound cards are listed on my website. Switching from the mic input of my laptop to these units allowed me to