On 8/4/2023 7:42 AM, Mike Waters wrote:
If you don't already have it,*Low Band DXing* by John Devoldere, ON4UN
(published by the ARRL) has a very informative chapter about receiving
antennas. Most of it is about Beverage antennas. Highly recommended.
Yes, highly recommended.
73, Jim K9YC
Ah yes! If it's not the latest and last edition, then you should get one.
It corrected many mistakes and omissions in previous editions.
73 Mike
W0BTU
On Fri, Aug 4, 2023, 10:32 AM Chuck Dietz wrote:
> I keep it beside my chair in the living room.
>
> Chuck W5PR
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 9:42
I keep it beside my chair in the living room.
Chuck W5PR
On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 9:42 AM Mike Waters wrote:
> If you don't already have it, *Low Band DXing* by John Devoldere, ON4UN
> (published by the ARRL) has a very informative chapter about receiving
> antennas. Most of it is about Beverage
If you don't already have it, *Low Band DXing* by John Devoldere, ON4UN
(published by the ARRL) has a very informative chapter about receiving
antennas. Most of it is about Beverage antennas. Highly recommended.
73 Mike
W0BTU
https://web.archive.org/web/20190827040547/http://w0btu.com/
On Thu,
Thank you everyone who replied. The consensus was that sloping ground will
not matter much.
I was discussing with Tree that I may have the opportunity to put up a
similar, same direction, but temporary Beverage on the opposite side of the
hill which slopes in the opposite direction to compare. The
Same here, 570’ W/E with 80ft drop and ~8ft high in a hedge works well in both
directions.
Jeremy G3XDK
> On 2 Aug 2023, at 21:37, Tree wrote:
>
> My E/W Beverate (bi directional - brute force - transformers on each end
> and two feedlines) has probably a 75 foot drop from one end to the
My E/W Beverate (bi directional - brute force - transformers on each end
and two feedlines) has probably a 75 foot drop from one end to the other.
Works fine uphill.
Tree N6TR
On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 11:51 AM Jim Brown wrote:
> On 8/2/2023 11:11 AM, Chuck Dietz wrote:
> > Am I correct in
On 8/2/2023 11:11 AM, Chuck Dietz wrote:
Am I correct in assuming that Beverage wires sloping downward from the feed
point to the termination will work better than ones that slope upward?
My Beverages are over terrain that starts high, slopes down nearly 100
ft to a creek, then back up to
Am I correct in assuming that Beverage wires sloping downward from the feed
point to the termination will work better than ones that slope upward? I
have two places I would like to put bidirectional Beverages, but they are
both on sloping ground. I’m wondering if it would be worth the effort to
, 2012 1:39 AM
To: ZR
Cc: topband@contesting.com ; Bruce
Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antennas
What may be more destructive is a slow velocity factor in the insulated
wire. There is no way to estimate that, you just have to measure it. If
the VF is low, then you get into the same kind of problems
K2AV
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:39 AM
To: ZR
Cc: topband@contesting.com ; Bruce
Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antennas
What may be more destructive is a slow velocity factor in the insulated
wire. There is no way to estimate that, you just have to measure it. If
the VF is low
Hi Guy,
Good topic.
The losses as a reversible beverage would far exceed those used as a
balanced feedline, because of the balance partly cancelling fields in the
dielectric between them.
Slow wave structures are more common in microwave. Anything that increases
capacitance or inductance
Yeah, so he says when the wire is new. There is an ASSUMPTION that stuff
retains characteristic at RF over time when it was only designed for audio.
Have you ever noticed how pungent that stuff smells when you first pull it
off the roll. That stuff cures over time. Guys at Bell Labs had HUGE
- Original Message -
From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com
To: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antennas
Hi Guy,
Good topic.
The losses as a reversible beverage would far exceed those used
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73
Frank
W3LPL
Original message
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:12:42 -0400
From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antennas
To: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net
Cc
From what I've read, the characteristics of WD-1x may vary quite a bit.
It's interesting to read the results of the comparison that Herb did
between some and open wire line back in 2008:
http://lists.contesting.com/_topband/2008-12/msg00016.html
From that link:
In theory two parallel 600
There is an excellent article in the July/August 2012 issue of QEX
describing how the author improved the performance of a Beverage by
breaking it into two in-line segments coupled by a pair of conventional
Beverage matching transformers. He also provides detailed construction
Frank, W3LPL recommends -
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I have been having a terrible problem with
: Topband: Beverage antennas
Bruce is correct that Beverage antenna installation and maintenance brings
on the risk of life changing Lyme disease. Lyme disease is present in
many areas of the world, but particularly in the non-arid areas of the
United States, Canada and Europe.
http
Much of the outdoor wire dielectric won't change much with age. If
you're looking at the really old rubber stuff you'll get a lot of change
since that material degrades over time. The newer stuff tends to be
polyethylene-based which holds up *very* well over time.
The C Rural wire that's been
- Original Message -
From: Bill Wichers bi...@waveform.net
Also, someone on here had corrected me for talking about an older
version of C Rural wire that was oval and used rubber insulation. I
looked that up too (Drop Wire), and it is similar but definitely not the
same (I've only run
Re Craig:
There are no perfect solutions for Beverage wire and all have problems.
One big factor in the Northeast is Limes Disease, spread by Deer ticks, from
Deer, and a few other creatures. It becomes risky to your way of life to put
too much time out on Beverages in wooded areas. We
:17 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antennas
Bruce is correct that Beverage antenna installation and maintenance brings on
the risk of life changing Lyme disease. Lyme disease is present in many areas
of the world, but particularly in the non-arid areas
...@contesting.com
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:39:00
To: donov...@starpower.net; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antennas
And out here in the ARID areas of the US, Beverage antenna installation and
maintenance brings on the risk of life changing encounters with rattle snakes
and Gila
Sounds like a version of Lyme disease, Tom.
Sorry to hear this.
Brian K3USC
On Jul 23, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Tom W8JI wrote:
Ticks carry many things, some that doctors are not familiar with.
Installing antennas in the woods here in Georgia, I contracted Ehrlichiosis
from a Lone-star tick. I was
@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antennas
Ticks carry many things, some that doctors are not familiar with.
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Bet there are many tick stories in the DX group.
I was on active duty at Fort Sill, Oklahoma in 1957 and while I was shaving
in the BOQ latrine one of the guys noticed a tick on my back. They burned it
out with a cigarette. Had to go to early sick bay many days after,
receiving many penicillin
- Original Message -
From: Bruce k...@myfairpoint.net
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Topband: Beverage antennas
Re Tom:
An impedance error of 20 ohms on a 100 ohm line is as meaningful as an 80
ohm error on 400 ohm line
Thanks Tom
...@jeremy.mv.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Bruce k...@myfairpoint.net
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Topband: Beverage antennas
Re Tom:
An impedance error of 20 ohms on a 100 ohm line is as meaningful as an 80
ohm error on 400 ohm
I am preparing to install a reversible Beverage antenna, using 450 Ohm
ladderline. All of the components are from DX Engineering. The maximum
length I could fit on my property was 480ft. This would be the first of my
receive antennas for my first venture into 160 and 80M.
Here is my concern.
Wayne,
That's what mine does with the same components.
Works fine.
Les W2LK
On 6/18/2012 2:45 PM, Wayne Willenberg wrote:
I am preparing to install a reversible Beverage antenna, using 450 Ohm
ladderline. All of the components are from DX Engineering. The maximum
length I could fit on my
Willenberg wewill...@gmail.com
To: Topband@contesting.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 2:45 PM
Subject: Topband: Beverage Antennas Trees
I am preparing to install a reversible Beverage antenna, using 450 Ohm
ladderline. All of the components are from DX Engineering. The maximum
length I could
On 6/20/2012 9:40 AM, ZR wrote:
Mine are installed thru the woods and I spent considerable time trimming out
low growth plus interfering branches.
Mine are also DXE twinlead in a dense redwood forest with rather
irregular terrain, and go through a lot of brush and scrub trees. When I
I agree with Jim. Beverages don't have to be ideal to work very well
indeed, thank you. It's the matching transformers (and maybe their grounds)
that are a more important thing to worry about.
You need not worry that trees and bushes will attenuate the signal at HF.
Lots of people have installed
- Original Message -
From: Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com
To: topband topband@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Antennas Trees
I agree with Jim. Beverages don't have to be ideal to work very well
indeed, thank you. It's the matching
Hi all.. Iam getting ready to put up a bunch of beverage antennas..
I was told that I could use electric fence wire for them.. any
suggestions on this?
73,
Fred N2FJ
Me three! I use 1.6mm electric fence wire for both of my 190m long
bi-directional beverages. I made them into 400 ohm line
Hi all.. Iam getting ready to put up a bunch of beverage antennas.. I was told
that I could use electric fence wire for them.. any suggestions on this?
73,
Fred N2FJ
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On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Fred Bennett n...@n2fj.com wrote:
Hi all.. Iam getting ready to put up a bunch of beverage antennas.. I was
told that I could use electric fence wire for them.. any suggestions on
this?
73,
Fred N2FJ
Hello Fred,
Absolutely you can! Earl, K6SE (SK) swore
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