...@w8ji.com, Rick n...@triad.rr.com, topband@contesting.com
Sent: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 04:07:04 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
You think the frequency selection is stupid? Take a look at their
objective. --Super Slow CW. 10 hours for a QSO.
A QLF contest has more Pizazz
What a stupid frequency for a test beacon of any type!
- Original Message -
From: Rick n...@triad.rr.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:57 PM
Subject: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
Good evening all,
Hate to burst the theories, but it appears
Amen!!
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tom W8JI
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:33 PM
To: Rick; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
What a stupid frequency for a test beacon of any type
@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
What a stupid frequency for a test beacon of any type!
- Original Message -
From: Rick n...@triad.rr.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:57 PM
Subject: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
Good evening all
: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
Amen!!
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tom
W8JI
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:33 PM
To: Rick; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
What a stupid frequency for a test
it. At the transmitter that is.
- Original Message - From: Charlie Cunningham
charlie-cunning...@nc.rr.com
To: 'Tom W8JI' w...@w8ji.com; 'Rick' n...@triad.rr.com;
topband@contesting.com
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
For what it's worth, considering the fine DF work done, I don't think the
QRSS station was the offender. It seems like it was probably in Georgia,
south of Savannah. Just guessing.
Bill--W4BSG
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Topband Reflector
Hi Rick,
The beacon that you mention (what I assume I'm hearing around 3.500.9 this
morning between 1130 to 1200 UTC) is on a lower frequency (approximately
0.9 Khz lower) than what I was previously hearing, it's much weaker than
what I had been hearing, and it's heading is much different from my
Hi all,
Just curious: How come that people operate Ham beacons in a bandsegment that
we have agreed to be used for DX traffic only? What is the purpose?
73
Len
SM7BIC
The beacon that you mention (what I assume I'm hearing around 3.500.9 this
morning between 1130 to 1200 UTC) is on a lower
Rick and gang, as a follow up I just contacted Bill (w4hbk) via e-mail, and
the QRSS beacon that you mentioned above was definitely not the signal we
were tracking last week. Bill said the following today via e-mail.
I was running 1W to a 43' vertical on a frequency of 3500.81. One Watt is
It is built around the DDS VFO kit sold by N3ZI and amplifier kit from
W8DIZ. Power is 1 W to a 43 foot vertical.
If the QRSS station is operated at the FCC-licensed address, that places his
QTH on a narrow peninsula on the Gulf of Mexico. In one direction, it's
about 700 ft from saltwater.
I was going to make the same comment. I would think that very high in
the band, above 3575, would make a LOT more sense.
On 11/8/2013 7:22 AM, Lennart Michaelsson wrote:
Hi all,
Just curious: How come that people operate Ham beacons in a bandsegment that
we have agreed to be used for DX
I would think that very high in the band, above 3575, would make a
LOT more sense.
No - above 3600. 3570-3600 is packed full of digital/RTTY operations.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 11/8/2013 10:37 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:
I was going to make the same comment. I would think that very high in
They just went away.?
Now what the heck are we going to do for fun, operate the silly radios on the
quiet band?
K2XT
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Topband Reflector
: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
They just went away.?
Now what the heck are we going to do for fun, operate the silly radios on
the quiet band?
K2XT
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Topband Reflector
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Topband Reflector
Delete!
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Topband Reflector
I have a Hi-Z RX 4sq system with 0 degrees at due north. At 0205Z today
(2Nov) the signal was about S7 NE and S6 SE. With QSB the SE signal would
almost equal the NE direction, but never louder. I have been listening on
and off since then, its now 0820Z, signals are weaker but the NE directions
is
I thought I read here in earlier posts it went from CW dead carrier to rTty for
a while tho?
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com wrote:
This is looking like somewhere near the Florida/Georgia border,
Jacksonville, Fl to Brunswick, Ga area.
The wave
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From: Steve Flood kk...@bresnan.net
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 3:50 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
but then at times the signal is briefly the same between the 160 and 300
degree pennant
This is difficult to read accurately because heading
It peaks at 172 degrees from Raleigh, NC on a Hi-Z 3-element array (6
directions).
We need some directions from Florida stations.
73,
Paul
K5ESW
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Topband Reflector
Paul and Gang,
Based on Pauls heading and a few other headings that intersect Pauls
heading, it looks like the signal is originating from the lower half of NC,
or the NE part of SC that touches NC.
Hard to describe, but an area like Fayetteville NC to the North, Wilmington
NC to the South East,
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Don Kirk
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 7:40 AM
To: p...@paulferguson.us
Cc: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
Paul and Gang,
Based on Pauls heading and a few other headings
A rough azimuth from W4ZV in NC would be helpful ,
and from Florida
- Original Message -
From: Don Kirk wd8...@gmail.com
To: p...@paulferguson.us
Cc: topband topband@contesting.com
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 11:39:56 AM
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
Paul
I think I can do a little better on estimating the direction (better
than SE which I gave earlier). I can get two 30 dB nulls out of my
receiving antenna by switching directions. Those nulls appear at 145
and 133 degrees. Pointed SW the signal is S9 this morning. In the null
at 133 degrees
I'm mapping the data, but nothing to hang my hat on at this time. The data
from Steve (KK7UV) does not intersect any of the other reports (odd). A
heading from W8JI or AA1K would be very helpful.
Don (wd8dsb)
If you guys will remember from a year ago, Don is the man who pinpoints
[mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K4SAV
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 10:53 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
I think I can do a little better on estimating the direction (better than SE
which I gave earlier). I can get two 30 dB
Wondering if it might be a commerical station on the 2 - 3 MHz area and with a
spur?
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Rick Stealey rstea...@hotmail.com wrote:
I'm mapping the data, but nothing to hang my hat on at this time. The data
from Steve (KK7UV) does not
The signal on 3501.6 seems to have some significant power behind it. At
noon (1700 UTC) it is running S7 to S1 (QSB) on my vertical.
There is also an unmodulated carrier on 10.5048 MHz, but not very strong
(at noon). 3501.6 x 3 = 10.5048
Jerry, K4SAV
On 11/2/2013 9:52 AM, K4SAV wrote:
I can only give a rough direction from here, because right now the multipath
is terrible.
I'm at 33-04-38N and 84-03-28W That's EM73XB or EM73XC
It appears to center on 130 degrees true from me. Because of multipath it
could be off +-5 degrees. The direction keeps shifting.
That's a
Well darn. The signal on 3501.6 stopped at 2301 UTC. I thought maybe
it would have some RTTY when it came back on like it did last time
(maybe with a station ID), so I recorded it. It didn't. It just
started up with a constant carrier. It came back at 0011 UTC.
It's at S9+10 on my
Based on Tom's bearing, the source is clearly not in the Carolinas as a
few
have specuilated.
Charlie, K4OTV
You can be absolutely sure it is not in or anywhere near NC.
My heading can't be more than a few degrees off. This closely matches
Jerry's line, his line is just west of mine and
Hi Guys,
K5ESW reported the following : The 3501.5 carrier is audible in daylight in
Raleigh, NC. It is running
S3-S4 now at 3 pm local. It was about S6-S7 or better at night.
What would be interesting to know is if anyone can hear this signal 24
hours a day, and then DF activity should be done
Everyone is measuring the 3501.6 signal only, right?
The other ones, if they exist are in the noise for me, central NJ.
I heard the 3501.6 from 10 am till I had to QRT at 3 pm, S3 on a dipole.
It is S8 now, So maybe I have it 24 hrs a day.
I took my loop outside to my porch and got a bearing on
S9 in KS @ 2:20 UTC
S/SE on HiZ pro 4-8
73/jeff/ac0c
www.ac0c.com
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
-Original Message-
From: Rick Stealey
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 9:12 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
Everyone is measuring the 3501.6
on 3501.6 is s9+10 coming around
350 degree with some QSB.
Regards
JC
N4IS
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Don Kirk
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 9:29 PM
To: Tom W8JI
Cc: Charlie Cunningham; topband
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier
The 3501.5 carrier very solid in Western Canada- s-7 or so at VE6WZit
must be **real** loud out east!!
My bearing will not likely be much help, but rotating the Yagi it clearly
peaks between 90 -120 deg from Calgary.
Zero copy off the back of the beam with the same reciprocal bearing.
de
This is looking like somewhere near the Florida/Georgia border,
Jacksonville, Fl to Brunswick, Ga area.
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Topband Reflector
This is looking like somewhere near the Florida/Georgia border,
Jacksonville, Fl to Brunswick, Ga area.
Any mobile station traveling the I-95 corridor could provide some very
interesting data, very easily. What mile marker does the signal peak at?
Then we take a loop and start driving
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
The 3501.5 carrier very solid in Western Canada- s-7 or so at VE6WZit
must be **real** loud out east!!
My bearing will not likely be much help, but rotating the Yagi it clearly
peaks between 90 -120 deg from Calgary.
Zero copy off the back
: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
3.503.1 due south from SE CT.
3.501.6 due south from SE CT
73,
Gary
KA1J
There appears to be a second carrier coming from the same direction
on
3503.1. It is not as strong as the one on 3501.4. So whatever is
going on -
two steady carriers are on the low
[mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Smith
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:18 AM
To: Topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
3.503.1 due south from SE CT.
3.501.6 due south from SE CT
73,
Gary
KA1J
There appears to be a second carrier coming
Cunningham charlie-cunning...@nc.rr.com
To: g...@ka1j.com, Topband@contesting.com
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 6:21:23 AM
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW
BTW, Gary,
When Tim, K3LR, started this thread he also reported that the signals peaked
at around 150 deg, from
] On Behalf Of
Gary
Smith
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:18 AM
To: Topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
3.503.1 due south from SE CT.
3.501.6 due south from SE CT
73,
Gary
KA1J
There appears to be a second carrier coming from the same
direction
Yes, that's what I was thinking too. The link Frank posted mentions
continuous operation which is something I hadn't experienced on 160.
What is amazing to me is how loud their signals are compared to other
signals I hear on the band. I understand its their saltwater location
but that's pretty
Carriers here this morning are at
3500.85 khz
3501.58 khz
3503.16 khz
Using nulls from my 8-direction K9AY loop, I put the signal between 135 and
150 degrees from DN36.
If that helps at all,
Steve, KK7UV
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Topband Reflector
A steady carrier from fish net beacons doesn't fit the pattern of the ones
everyone has heard on 160. That would deplete the batteries fairly quickly.
All the ones I know of send a short carrier and a CW ID followed by a long
period of silence. That lets them be unattended for several days.
If it
Approximately 128 deg from WD8DSB (EM69) using small DF loop.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com wrote:
A steady carrier from fish net beacons doesn't fit the pattern of the ones
everyone has heard on 160. That would deplete the batteries fairly quickly.
All the
It's mostly S8 on my SE 580' Beverage here in SW Missouri. Rather fast QSB
down to S6.
On the NE 580' Bev, mostly S3 to S6, but I just saw the signal about equal
on both antennas.
73, Mike
www,w0btu.com
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Topband Reflector
Clarification: my NE Beverage is actually about 55 degrees. (The SE Bev
is 135 degrees.)
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com wrote:
It's mostly S8 on my SE 580' Beverage here in SW Missouri. Rather fast QSB
down to S6.
On the NE 580' Bev, mostly S3 to S6, but I
I'm mapping the data, but nothing to hang my hat on at this time. The data
from Steve (KK7UV) does not intersect any of the other reports (odd). A
heading from W8JI or AA1K would be very helpful.
Don (wd8dsb)
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com wrote:
It's mostly
There is a carrier on 1749.3 in the same direction about 150 degrees from
Michigan. Harmonics anyone.
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: donov...@starpower.net
To: Topband@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW
This is an example of a fishnet buoy that operates from 1.6 to 4 MHz.
http://www.blueoceantackle.com/radio_buoys.htm
The good news is they're battery
[mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
donov...@starpower.net
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 2:31 AM
To: Topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW
This is an example of a fishnet buoy that operates from 1.6 to 4 MHz.
http://www.blueoceantackle.com
@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
I'm using a HI-Z triangular array. Both of these signals are nulled
significantly due north and are loudest due south not quite as loud
SW SE from here.
BTW, Gary - how are you measuring direction on 80m?
-Original Message-
From
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 5:36 AM
To: Topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW
Yes, that's what I was thinking too. The link Frank posted mentions
continuous operation which is something I hadn't experienced on 160.
What is amazing to me is how loud
Charlie,
My resolution is not as good as some people here, either. But where there's
a will, there's often a way. :-)
73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Charlie Cunningham
charlie-cunning...@nc.rr.com wrote:
I'm impressed with the directional resolution available to
: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
Charlie, mine's nowhere as good as the 8 element array they offer and
others here have far better antennae than I. This offending signal is
just stronger from my south and the HI-Z antennas do work as
advertised. I'm someday going to get their 8 element array
@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
I know this is the TopBand reflector - but there has been a carrier on
3501.4 for the past few days - that needs some DF work.
It peaks at 150 degrees from K3LR so South South East. It is S9 this evening
Any ideas on what it is and where
My resolution is not as good as some people here, either. But where
there's
a will, there's often a way. :-)
Many of the headings are misleading. Having been through this before several
times, much of the data is always grossly overstated.It is common to
exaggerate ability to determine
OK, while we are on the topic another very big factor to think about is
magnetic north vs. true north (I have tried to not bring this up in the
past). I don't expect any response to this, but this has always been in
the back of my mind and wonder what headings are really being reported
(what is
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 22:45:14 -0400
From: Tim Duffy
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I know this is the TopBand reflector - but there has been a carrier on
3501.4
OK, while we are on the topic another very big factor to think about is
magnetic north vs. true north (I have tried to not bring this up in the
past). I don't expect any response to this, but this has always been in
the back of my mind and wonder what headings are really being reported
(what is
: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Don Kirk
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 11:31 AM
To: Tom W8JI
Cc: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW
OK, while we are on the topic another very big factor to think about is
magnetic north vs. true north (I have tried
Or a compass laying on a camera tripod, and an up-to-date magnetic
declination map (Google it).
73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Charlie Cunningham
charlie-cunning...@nc.rr.com wrote:
... by using a solar determination of true North.
The way that I do it for my
AM
To: Tom W8JI
Cc: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW
OK, while we are on the topic another very big factor to think about is
magnetic north vs. true north (I have tried to not bring this up in the
past). I don't expect any response to this, but this has always been
-- Brian K1LI
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I know this is the TopBand reflector
Observers to track them down.
73 -- Brian K1LI
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 22:45:14 -0400
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I know
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I know this is the TopBand reflector - but there has been a carrier on
3501.4 for the past few days - that needs
The signals on 3501.6 and 3503.1 are both SE of me (north Alabama) but I
can't locate the direction any closer than that with only a four
direction receiving antenna. They are very strong, S9+5 to S9+10, same
on either a low dipole or a vertical. They were also that strong even a
few hours
From the Virgin Islands they are 59+ on my NW Beverage and weak on my
North and West Beverage. I know that is probably not much help but I
send the information along for what its worth. Like Merv said the
strongest is 3501.6. I am listening to a NA pile up on 3525.5 calling
5J0R and the
I know this is the TopBand reflector - but there has been a carrier on
3501.4 for the past few days - that needs some DF work.
It peaks at 150 degrees from K3LR so South South East. It is S9 this evening
Any ideas on what it is and where it is coming from?
73,
Tim K3LR
] On Behalf Of Tim Duffy
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:45 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
I know this is the TopBand reflector - but there has been a carrier on
3501.4 for the past few days - that needs some DF work.
It peaks at 150 degrees from K3LR so
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:37:57 PM Tim Duffy wrote:
There appears to be a second carrier coming from the same direction on
3503.1. It is not as strong as the one on 3501.4. So whatever is going on -
two steady carriers are on the low end of 80 CW.
Both carriers peak on my 150 degree
:57 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:37:57 PM Tim Duffy wrote:
There appears to be a second carrier coming from the same direction on
3503.1. It is not as strong as the one on 3501.4. So whatever is going on
-
two steady
: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:57 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:37:57 PM Tim Duffy wrote:
There appears to be a second carrier coming from the same direction on
3503.1. It is not as strong as the one on 3501.4. So
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Tim Duffy
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:45 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
I know this is the TopBand reflector - but there has been a carrier
-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Smith
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:18 AM
To: Topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
3.503.1 due south from SE CT.
3.501.6 due south from SE CT
73,
Gary
KA1J
There appears to be a second carrier coming from the same
BTW, Gary - how are you measuring direction on 80m?
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Smith
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:18 AM
To: Topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
3.503.1 due south from SE
Of Gary
Smith
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:18 AM
To: Topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW
3.503.1 due south from SE CT.
3.501.6 due south from SE CT
73,
Gary
KA1J
There appears to be a second carrier coming from the same direction
on
3503.1
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