Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

2015-01-30 Thread Joel Harrison
This is starting to become very amusing to me. All the Contest folks are telling the DX'er they are over reacting and becoming emotional on remote operation, and they should just calm down and enjoy radio.Live and Let Live, eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow you may die But those same

Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

2015-01-30 Thread N5PA
Joel: I agree with you! It is what it is and all the moaning and complaining will not change the rules. I am antenna restricted where I live to somewhat and I have a much better station at my farm, 98 miles west of me. But when I want to operate, I get in my truck and drive over there. So

Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

2015-01-30 Thread James Rodenkirch
Tom: thank you for placing all of this in the correct context.it's a friggin' hobby, not something to start gnashing the teeth over or initiate some hand wringing due to a) misinterpretation of rules, b) purposefully bending/breaking the rules or c) using some combination of a and b to win

Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

2015-01-30 Thread Ashton Lee
As the ham population ages historically many people have been forced to go off air when they move to retirement communities, assisted living situations etc. Let’s not also forget what remote stations can do for these folks. To operate my remote station would cost someone about $200 in

Re: Topband: NE7D loaded tower

2015-01-30 Thread Ron Feutz
Let the log checkers know and let them figure it out. After all, even Magellan was a day late. Ron KK9K -Original Message- From: Tree Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:26 AM To: 160 Subject: Re: Topband: NE7D loaded tower Thanks for all of the comments about the possible hazards

Topband: Tensioning of RG58 coax for 2-way Beverage

2015-01-30 Thread Tracey Gardner
I have a follow on question from my non-invasive tree attachment question. I am running RG58 through a hedge with the intention of using it as a 2-way Beverage. I am scratching my head as to how to attach some poly rope close to the ends of the RG58 to enable it to be lightly tensioned. I

Re: Topband: Tensioning of RG58 coax for 2-way Beverage

2015-01-30 Thread KD0Q-Glenn
For my RG-6 beverage I used a marline hitch spread out over a couple of feet and then taped it up after it was in tension. 73, Glenn - KD0Q On 1/30/2015 10:57, Tracey Gardner wrote: I have a follow on question from my non-invasive tree attachment question. I am running RG58 through a

Re: Topband: Remote Radio operation

2015-01-30 Thread Mike Cizek W0VTT
Years ago there was an article in NCJ about the CQWWW Contest. The premise of the article was that all of the wired and wireless technologies had switched and that ham radio was now all on line and CQWW had transitioned into an internet based contest. At the time, it appeared the article was

Topband: Remote Radio operation

2015-01-30 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
Oddly enough I was working with the North Korean UN ambassador to get an internet TX/RX package on the top floor off that 1500 foot hotel in downtown Pyongyang with a radio sport rental for radio clubs all over the world to participate in providing operators from their own country who would

Re: Topband: Elimination of Treadmill RFI on 160 meters

2015-01-30 Thread Jim Brown
Tom, You simply don't get it. The choke is NOT a filter. It is a high impedance added to the common mode circuit. The common mode circuit is acting as an ANTENNA, either for RX or TX. If for TX, the noise source is inside the box, and the current will depend upon the voltage of the source

Re: Topband: Logged Date Question

2015-01-30 Thread Jim - WS6X
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 08:26:58 -0800 From: Tree t...@kkn.net To: 160 topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: NE7D loaded tower SNIP I do have one question about remote operating... if I am on an airplane using this station during a contest - and travel over the international date line -

Re: Topband: Logged Date Question

2015-01-30 Thread Tree
Yes - that is the important key - use the UTC time AND date at the remote QTH (where the transmitter is) as opposed to the one where the operator is located. Thanks for making it clear!! :-) Tree On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Jim - WS6X ws6x@gmail.com wrote: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015

Re: Topband: Tensioning of RG58 coax for 2-way Beverage

2015-01-30 Thread Bill Wichers
You could use a small Kellums grip (Chinese finger handcuffs) to grab the cable. I know those can be found small enough. The other thing you could try would be to run the RG58 around a thimble (usually used with wire rope), then lace it together with fine twine. The thimble will give you a

Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

2015-01-30 Thread JC
It will be soon enough that we will be having the conversation about not only remote operation but robotic QSO making software. Is is really and truly a RADIO CONTEST if you cannot possibly make a radio QSO without using the Internet? I know some people who I actually think believe what we

Re: Topband: Elimination of Treadmill RFI on 160 meters

2015-01-30 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri,1/30/2015 2:49 PM, Jim Garland wrote: But, like I said, maybe I'm not following something. Right -- you are not. First, you don't understand what common mode is. Second, you don't understand the choke. A ferrite common mode choke STARTS OUT as a lossy inductor, but one with shunt

Re: Topband: Elimination of Treadmill RFI on 160 meters

2015-01-30 Thread Jim Garland
Guys, I'm not following all this, possibly because I'm confused by Jim's distinction between filters and chokes, because in both cases they're just lossy inductors, although used in different ways and for different purposes. Consider common mode noise on a simple parallel wire transmission line.

Topband: Inverted L

2015-01-30 Thread Don
What interaction between a Inverted L and 80 40 meter dipoles off the same tower ? Don W4DEE _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

2015-01-30 Thread K1FZ-Bruce
Could someone in the future, set up a internet controlled remote in an extremely rare country? Then make a contact with himself for a new one?  How far will  all this stretch to ?     (((:)) As the Lone Ranger said  whoa  silver, steady  big fellow  ! 73 Bruce-k1fz On Fri, 30 Jan 2015

Re: Topband: NE7D loaded tower

2015-01-30 Thread Milt -- N5IA
Well, Tree, in my VERY humble opinion, an honest man like you would have to quit the contest 24 hours early, ORYou have to wait 24 hours before resuming making contacts. Tee hee! 73 de Milt, N5IA == -Original Message- From: Tree Sent:

Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

2015-01-30 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri,1/30/2015 6:23 AM, john wrote: but,,if they make it that simple, they no longer have job security... Most every award , etc developed is with the idea of more activity and more income/members for them--follow the money Job security? Most work on contest administration and contest

Re: Topband: Logged Date Question

2015-01-30 Thread Art Snapper
I guess a remote station on the ISS isn't going to fly? Art ᐧ On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Tree t...@kkn.net wrote: Yes - that is the important key - use the UTC time AND date at the remote QTH (where the transmitter is) as opposed to the one where the operator is located. Thanks for

Re: Topband: Inverted L

2015-01-30 Thread KD0Q-Glenn
There will be some interaction. How much? All depends. You can get some idea by modeling with EZNEC. The tower can have some effect too. Glenn KD0Q On 1/30/2015 11:55, Don wrote: What interaction between a Inverted L and 80 40 meter dipoles off the same tower ? Don W4DEE

Re: Topband: Inverted L

2015-01-30 Thread chetmoore
NO interaction noted at my qth on 80 or 40m. 90 foot tower, 2 element cushcraft xm 240 at 75 feet, ten foot yardarm through the tower (ab-105) at 70 feet. 80m inverted vee hung off one side, inverted L hung off the other side of the yard arm 70 feet vertical And rest sloping down to 35 fee

Re: Topband: Elimination of Treadmill RFI on 160 meters

2015-01-30 Thread Tom W8JI
Consider common mode noise on a simple parallel wire transmission line. Identical in-phase noise currents would flow on each of the parallel wires. A common mode choke around the line would insert a high impedance equally onto both wires.The choke's effectiveness at suppressing the common mode

Re: Topband: Logged Date Question

2015-01-30 Thread HAROLD SMITH JR
I guess, if you go in the opposite direction, you can become younger. Price W0RI On Friday, January 30, 2015 8:52 PM, Art Snapper a...@nk8x.net wrote: I guess a remote station on the ISS isn't going to fly? Art ᐧ On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Tree t...@kkn.net wrote: Yes - that is

Re: Topband: Remote Radio operation

2015-01-30 Thread WW3S
if everything (radio, antenna) were in one location, but the op was somewhere else..I dont see the problem, just like a super long 10,000+ mile cord between the cw key and radio.its when the receiver is in EU and the TX in the Caribbean (or vice versa) that it becomes a “wrong”...either

Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

2015-01-30 Thread john
Amen@ but,,if they make it that simple, they no longer have job security... Most every award , etc developed is with the idea of more activity and more income/members for them--follow the money Back in the day, when I would work a new country, and was sure of it, I did not try to

Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

2015-01-30 Thread Stan Stockton
DXCC is a joke for many. At one time it was fun to chase DX, listen for hours to work a new one and perhaps compare with locals in a friendly competition. With Internet spotting and the ability to operate from anywhere in the country using a remote site, it has long since become meaningless

Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

2015-01-30 Thread Larry Burke
As for DXCC, since sometime in the 1990's (as I recall), we could legally move anywhere or operate anywhere and collect DXCC. Prior to that, it was not unheard of for people to call people on the phone to help them get a new country. 160 meters for many years had a phone-a-friend list. I

Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

2015-01-30 Thread Tom W8JI
Now, consider this: We keep talking about remote RX, and the attendant problems of getting full SDR data back to the main station where the operator is located. Lets flip this around. Lets move the operator to the receive site, and move the transmitter 100 miles away. That way, we only need

Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

2015-01-30 Thread Tim Shoppa
On your last example, which straddles the line of pirate operation (one foot - you were really there. other foot - no valid license), the organizers will sometimes disallow credit for obvious pirate operations without penalty to those who logged him. e.g. PZ1AA in CQ 160 CW last year. This sort of

Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

2015-01-30 Thread Tom Haavisto
The more I think about this, I have come to realize the FULL impact of what is being proposed. Now, consider this: We keep talking about remote RX, and the attendant problems of getting full SDR data back to the main station where the operator is located. Lets flip this around. Lets move the

Re: Topband: Elimination of Treadmill RFI on 160 meters

2015-01-30 Thread Tom W8JI
This snide remark ignores the fact that it is generally not practical (nor is it good politics) to go inside your neighbor's equipment to add bypass capacitors. Nor is it practical to open up a wall wart, nor even most consumer equipment. It also ignores the fact that much of RFI at HF is