Great Tony, please let the group know if you find the offending source, it is
good for us to know for future reference if we encounter similar RFI. Good
Luck, Lou W1QJ
-Original Message-
From: N2TK, Tony
To: topband
Sent: Sat, Jan 16,
Sounds like someone retreating to his Homogenous Cluster where everyone
agrees with him.
Bye, Tom
On 1/16/2016 8:37 AM, Tom W8JI wrote:
This reflector has gone down the toilet with personal BS that serves no
purpose except to pick fights.
After 20 years, I'm leaving it.It sure went down the
Sounds a lot like the RHR folks!
A friend of mine at the Georgia State Public Service Training Center (right
down my street) says this social trend, made pandemic through Internet, has
even been assigned a name now. It is called Homogeneous Clustering. This is
where groups of people
You conveniently clipped off the part where I said "as long as it hurts no
one else".
Don't play stupid games with me by rewording what I say and posting it in
public to make it look like I said something I did not. Also, don't lecture
me about ethics after that stunt.
- Original
I suspect most of us here, are more like the old school hams were on
160. When a needed DX or non-needed DX is on & I'm calling, I'll
happily stand by and let the next guy get their shot. I do believe in
the "Golden Rule" and on 160, expect most on here to feel the same
way.
I admit that
Hi Lou,
Tonight I will expand my sweep of the area with the portable radio.
73,
N2TK, Tony
From: Louis Parascondola [mailto:gudguy...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 7:04 PM
To: tony@verizon.net; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: RFI - 1825.5
The timing seems to
That was not nice.
Lou W1QJ
-Original Message-
From: Roger D Johnson
To: topband
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 7:09 am
Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation
Sounds a lot like the RHR folks!
>
>
>
> A friend of mine at the Georgia State
And you conveniently ignored the part when I addressed the "as long as it
hurts no one else".
- Larry K5RK
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tom W8JI
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 7:29 AM
To: Larry Burke; topband@contesting.com
Jim, I know somebody that is capable of doing that. Many times it works to be
a nuisance. It seems to be one tactic in the arsenal of DX weapons. I try not
to use that one. Lou W1QJ
-Original Message-
From: Jim Murray via Topband
To: topband
This reflector has gone down the toilet with personal BS that serves no
purpose except to pick fights.
After 20 years, I'm leaving it.It sure went down the tubes.
- Original Message -
From: "Louis Parascondola via Topband"
To: ;
I agree 100%.
Let's have all on this reflector act like Gentlemen. 160 is, after all, the
"Gentlemen's Band".
We should live up to the name.
Bob AA6VB
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> On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:53 AM, Louis Parascondola via Topband
> wrote:
>
> Tom, by you
> The ethics are limited to following the rules, and what a particular
person decides to do beyond the rules is up to the individual
Martin Shkreli would be proud of this argument. Increasing the price of
Daraprim 5000% did not break any rules either. And, hey, he didn't hurt
anyone or
Thanks Mike, I'm not going anywhere. I hope that Tom reconsiders his leaving.
If you look at the time and effort he spent on his website which he always
updates and adds to, and the efforts he puts forth on the various reflectors
you have to say it is nothing less than admirable. A handful
Sorry, file stripped. Lou W1QJ
-Original Message-
From: Louis Parascondola via Topband
To: topband
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 8:06 pm
Subject: Topband: Robot contester
Hopefully you can get this file. Just another twist on operating.
On 1/16/2016 12:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote:
There's an odd behavior that we've all heard & that's the "ditter",
the person who on the DX frequency sends the occasional dit, not a
string, just a dit & then some odd seconds later does it again. I
wonder if they do it to bust the chops of someone
A friend gave me some Commscope 1/2" heliax but had no connectors to
go with it. Its out of production hardline and Commscope can't help
with connectors. It requires SFX-ANF for a N connector, they didn't
make one with a PL-259. Would anyone have two or four of these
connectors they'd like to
Tom, by you leaving would just fuel the egos of those VERY few who want to stir
up trouble. If we get off the discussion things should return to normal. I am
done with the RHR discussion. When it was a healthy discussion where sensible
arguments were presented I see no problem, but when it
Tom
I /think/ I understand your point and question. If I recall, didn't we
have to send our call as a / (stroke) suffix after the lower class
call? That's what I recall anyway. Anyone else with better memory, jump in.
73 John W4II
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I would see this as analo g ou s to what happened in contesting. Originally,
you could use 2 meter spotting nets to help "find" multipliers, no problem.
Eventually, f olks in less populated areas complained that this was
disadvantageous to them and the contest sponso rs decided that use of
On Sat,1/16/2016 9:47 AM, n...@comcast.net wrote:
How many of you know hams who routinely run more power than is allowed on Top
Band in the United States?
I know of only one, who admitted to me that he was running 2.5kW.
Leaving aside the illegality of it, do you also view that as unethical?
What a run K5P has had on 160 the last 2 nights! I run an inverted L with
the vertical portion up 65" and 90 radials of which 60 are 120'. It's not
a bad Tx ant, but not so hot on Rx, and I need a bit better Wx to put up
the Hi-Z array I bought. I usually hear stations in the pacific for
I was surprised how much stronger they are here on TB than on 80.
Art NK8X
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On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Mike via Topband
wrote:
> What a run K5P has had on 160 the last 2 nights! I run an inverted L with
> the vertical portion up 65" and 90 radials of which 60
Is there some sort of Asiatic Russia/Siberian/??? contest going on with
160M and 80M right now? Obviously too late for me to hear anything but I
see a huge number and variety of spots on the bandmap.
Tim N3QE
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Gentlemen. I wonder if Tree regrets beginning this discussion with his post the
other day? I suspect he might. The discussion of ethics has been interesting to
me. Most of the comments have been thoughtful and not angry. Those I have
enjoyed, even the ones with which I disagree.
I have a
Amen Howard...The reflectors are great as a lot of us learn quite a bit. The
line gets crossed when it becomes a " I can urinate farther than you can"
event. I think some could check their egos and if there is a difference of
opinion try to remember this is a hobby instead of castigating the
They had huge signal on 160M here in W3 last night.
On 80M... my unconfirmed suspicion is that they have one ?Battle Creek
Special? and maybe one ?lowband receive system?, and cannot activate both
160M and 80M simultaneously with the good stuff.
Right now the stats in clublog say they 120 in
Dear OMs,
Please do not think I am criticizing the team. So far at 17:27 GMT on
Jan16 there has only been one 160M QSO with zone 14 which includes EI, G, DL
etc.The propagation gods are not favouring us at all. K5P is a hard
reach on most bands and once you go away from 17 through 40
One final comment and then I'll be silent.
I recently found this at:
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=call_signs=amateur
Call Sign Systems
A unique call sign is assigned to each amateur station during the processing of
its license applications. Each new call sign is
By all means, please don't leave, Tom. Until recently, this sort of
junk stayed on CQ-Contest. Perhaps we can give it the cold shoulder and
it'll wither away. This is still the place I look to for serious
discussion of, among other topics, low-band verticals and receiving
antennas.
73,
According to Clublog's Leaderboard stations east of the Mississippi are almost
nil.
73, Roger
On 1/16/2016 12:58 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On Sat,1/16/2016 9:31 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
The propagation gods are not favouring us at all. K5P is a hard
reach on most bands and once you go away
Guys
They have a BCS which is what they are using on 160. The BCS also has 80 m
capability but that trap shorted so it isn't working on that band.
But the BCS wasn't to be their main 80 m antenna, anyway. They were gg to
use a Steppir vertical, as I recall. I haven't heard there is a
I emailed the East Coast pilot station this morning inquiring about the 80M
situation, and said I had heard that they may be having 80M TX problems.
Don was kind enough to respond, and said "It seems they do", and that they
are receiving OK.
Lot of chomping at the bit to work them on 80M
K5P was very loud last night and I had just thrown a 500' BOG down yesterday
afternoon. Craig K9CT was at the key. I'm in NW TN, about 30 miles East of MS
River.
73, Jamie
WB4YDL
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> On Jan 16, 2016, at 12:27 PM, Roger D Johnson wrote:
>
> According to
Hi Tom,I have a coffee cup here that says "Don't let the turkeys get you down".
By the way my SB1000 is purring like a kitten on the low bands now and nice
results on the rbn thanks to you.
Jimk2hn
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The simple answer to that and it's been covered in this discussion several
times. The word " station" is actually referring to the "person" not the
location. For example. Who is the station calling? Meaning who is the
person. Tom explained all this very well in one of his posts about the
I wonder how good the ground conductivity is on an atoll? Perhaps elevating
the radials would help.
My $0.02 of pure speculation.
Art NK8X
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On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
> Dear OMs and Yls,
> The following link was posted me by Don EI6IL and
Dear OMs and Yls,
The following link was posted me by Don EI6IL and tells a very
interesting story of woe and murder on Palmyra Island going back to the very
discovery of the atoll.Slightly off topic but many of us have illusions
of working K5P so this may be of interest and also add a
Hi Lloyd:
Normally, I have reversible Beverages deployed but this year I decided to
purchase a shared apex loop (SAL) from Array Solutions. Unfortunately, due
to work, poor wx, and recent illness, I have been unable to deploy it. So
yesterday was a relatively warm day and the light rain had moved
Roger, and the group,,, I know of NO one in recent history that has
given of his self and resources more that Tom, w8ji-
- and sir, I am going to call you down on this--shame on you--thanks to
what appears to be no thanks to you be mindless, uninformed sniping ,
one of the really great
Absolutely correct Mike, and some of the other pills were much harder to
swallow than this one.
-Original Message-
From: mstangelo
To: Top Band Reflector
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 5:57 pm
Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation
Let's
Interesting topic(s) and I told myself I wouldn't comment. (but I will
anyways, hi !)
The one and only issue I have with RHR is when an IT9 station (or anyone
outside the lower 48) is using a USA remote and not signing /W4, /W1, /W6
etc.
No amount of arguing can explain how that is right.(or
Mike, they should, just as if they are physically in the US and vic versa. In
that case the CV control OP is in error.
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-Original Message-
From: Mike Smith VE9AA
To: topband
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 03:11 PM
Subject:
Steve, your question has a simple answer. It is undeniable that it is illegal
and unethical and should be shunned.
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-Original Message-
From: nn4t
To: kolson
Cc: topband
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 12:49
Let's all calm down.
I believe this latest tirade started with RHR. I may not elect to use it but
anyone else is entitled to use the service.
We've survived Incentive Licensing, code free licenses, solid state radios and
other changes. We will survive this change.
We should be tolerant as
Hello,
Need your help. For a long time can't get working FCP for my Inverted L.
I'm looking for some way to check quality of my homemade isolation
transformer. I'm connect primary to 50 Ohm dummy load and secondary to
Antenna Analyzer. Get reading @1850 Ra=28 Ohm and Rx=34 Ohm. Rx is raised
with
Hi Lou,
Of all the sources of unique help and info about 160 meters, IMO this
reflector is the best one.
I suppose you've found the searchable archives, which I've found invaluable
many times:
lists.contesting.com/archives//html/Topband/
Thanks Doug.
Awesome read. Has me wondering about our guys on the island.
Maybe the "darkness" of the island has something to do with the S9+ signals
we're seeing here in San Diego. Hi.
Carl AG6X
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> On Jan 16, 2016, at 1:26 PM, "Doug Turnbull" wrote:
Probably a good choice...
> On Jan 16, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Roger D Johnson wrote:
>
> One final comment and then I'll be silent.
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I have experienced this single dit when working split on a DX station. I
wondered if it was some kind of malicious interference of some sort but other
than what Gary suggested I don't see how it is terribly annoying to the point
that one would be making any statement by doing it.
W1QJ
Hi Art,
Whether or not elevated radials would help K5P, what you stated is NOT pure
speculation! :-)
Generally speaking, it is well-established that we can use far fewer
elevated radials under a vertical than ground mounted radials, for the same
efficiency.
73, Mike
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On Sat,1/16/2016 10:48 PM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
Yesterday to my big surprise I could copy K5P on 160m for
about 30 minutes, seemed to peak around 1445Z. They where
as strong as 559 on the peaks with deep QSB. I never ever
was thinking it was possible to even hear them the way
160m is these days.
I came to the group to try to pick up pointers on improving my 160 meter
experience. In the short two weeks I have been here I have so much information
to digest. Especially with receiving antennas, which in my short time here has
proven to be "the secret weapon". If you can't hear them you
I have followed with some interest. Early posts had some merit but it soon
turns into a free for all. I have had my own thoughts for many years but
thought this was not the forum to express them since it serves little purpose.
My feeling is the forum should be for technical information or
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