Re: Topband: TT8XX QSL Help
So Steve, I guess you never worked any of those hundreds of DXpeditions on CW that the foundations did sponsor? I hate to tell you, but Glorioso is very rare, most of those who DO contribute to NCDXF and INDEXA need it. Besides, most of the QSOs made by most dxpeditions today on top band are not on CW. Sad but true. 73 Don N1DG NCDXF Treasurer CWops #2 At 07:07 PM 4/26/2024, Wes Stewart via Topband wrote: wrote: [snip] BUT I do draw the line at contributing to a DXpedition, like the present Glorioso one, that states outright they do NOT intend to operate any CW. That just rubs me entirely the wrong way, not to mention the fact that I will never be able to work and count them, regardless of how INDEXA or the NCDXF feel about such mode restrictions, and is the reason I cannot, and will not, fully support either of those organizations. Would I feel the same way if they said, instead, that they will not operate any digital, or even voice, but only CW?? No, of course not; that's fair game, to me, since my only interest is CW, and who needs those other modes?? 8-D Steve, K0XP _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector Duxbury, MA 02332 _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: TT8XX QSL Help
I'll try this again, the first attempt never came through. On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 04:12:51 PM MST, Wes Stewart wrote: Mia Culpa. Sorry, I misread your post to say nothing other than Digital. I will be happy with SSB and/or RTTY. FT4 and FT8 blah. Wes On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 04:07:11 PM MST, Wes Stewart wrote: Where did you get this idea? From the blog: https://ft4gl-blogspot-com.translate.goog/p/band-plan.html?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=wapp Wes N7WS On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 03:06:07 PM MST, Steve Harrison wrote: [snip] BUT I do draw the line at contributing to a DXpedition, like the present Glorioso one, that states outright they do NOT intend to operate any CW. That just rubs me entirely the wrong way, not to mention the fact that I will never be able to work and count them, regardless of how INDEXA or the NCDXF feel about such mode restrictions, and is the reason I cannot, and will not, fully support either of those organizations. Would I feel the same way if they said, instead, that they will not operate any digital, or even voice, but only CW?? No, of course not; that's fair game, to me, since my only interest is CW, and who needs those other modes?? 8-D Steve, K0XP _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: TT8XX QSL Help
Mia Culpa. Sorry, I misread your post to say nothing other than Digital. I will be happy with SSB and/or RTTY. FT4 and FT8 blah. Wes On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 04:07:11 PM MST, Wes Stewart wrote: Where did you get this idea? From the blog: https://ft4gl-blogspot-com.translate.goog/p/band-plan.html?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=wapp Wes N7WS On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 03:06:07 PM MST, Steve Harrison wrote: [snip] BUT I do draw the line at contributing to a DXpedition, like the present Glorioso one, that states outright they do NOT intend to operate any CW. That just rubs me entirely the wrong way, not to mention the fact that I will never be able to work and count them, regardless of how INDEXA or the NCDXF feel about such mode restrictions, and is the reason I cannot, and will not, fully support either of those organizations. Would I feel the same way if they said, instead, that they will not operate any digital, or even voice, but only CW?? No, of course not; that's fair game, to me, since my only interest is CW, and who needs those other modes?? 8-D Steve, K0XP _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: TT8XX QSL Help
Okay, failure to communicate:-) On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 04:18:34 PM MST, Steve Harrison wrote: On 4/26/2024 3:59 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: You're preaching to the wrong choir. Read what I wrote more carefully. I wasn't preaching to you, Wes, but instead agreeing, and more, with what you said. Steve, K0XP _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: TT8XX QSL Help
On 4/26/2024 3:59 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: You're preaching to the wrong choir. Read what I wrote more carefully. I wasn't preaching to you, Wes, but instead agreeing, and more, with what you said. Steve, K0XP _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: TT8XX QSL Help
You're preaching to the wrong choir. Read what I wrote more carefully. On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 03:06:07 PM MST, Steve Harrison wrote: On 4/26/2024 2:10 PM, Wes Stewart via Topband wrote: > Stepping back onto the soapbox. > Gilles writes: " Is the rules even is not good hamspirit for a simple click > to sent the batch of DX'pedition QSO to LOTW server 6 mouth after date. > > I think this sums up what I was commenting on before. The members of > DXpeditons spend personal funds, foundations, corporate sponsors and > individual donors provide more funds, yet there can still be a shortfall. > The team endures hardships galore that I won't try to document to provide us > with new entities and excitement. Their last chance of financial recovery is > via QSL requests and yet some say, "Why should I pay for a simple mouse > click?" That's true; however, rember that you aren't simply paying for a "simple mouse click"; you're also paying for: a) all those hours you spent in the pileup with no pay forthcoming except, assuming you shells out a few extra greenbacks, a pretty fanchey-schmanchey postcard that's been run through a printer somewhere; b) all the electrons that went up through your power cord, got speeded up from 60 Hz (or DC from batteries or photons, in the case of solar-powered guys like myself) into ham band energy; c) all the hours of filament and cathode-depletion of your 6146s or 572Bs or 3CX800s or 8877s or 4CX1000s or even your LDMOSes or FETs; d) And just how many thousands did you spend on putting up that huge tower with the multi-kilobuck antler waving in the breeze at the top, not to mention your multi-kilobuck fanchey-schmanchey radio?? All of that costs each of us some bread, even if we don't tabulate it on an invoice. And folks still bitch, moan and groan about shelling out a couple or a few greenbacks for a confirmation... Personally, I don't mind contributing a couple of Lincolns or maybe a couple of Hamiltons or even a Jackson or two toward DXpeditions that are going to get me closer to either 160 DXCC (obligatory Topband content 8-) or the Honor Roll. BUT I do draw the line at contributing to a DXpedition, like the present Glorioso one, that states outright they do NOT intend to operate any CW. That just rubs me entirely the wrong way, not to mention the fact that I will never be able to work and count them, regardless of how INDEXA or the NCDXF feel about such mode restrictions, and is the reason I cannot, and will not, fully support either of those organizations. Would I feel the same way if they said, instead, that they will not operate any digital, or even voice, but only CW?? No, of course not; that's fair game, to me, since my only interest is CW, and who needs those other modes?? 8-D Steve, K0XP _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: TT8XX QSL Help
Where did you get this idea? From the blog: https://ft4gl-blogspot-com.translate.goog/p/band-plan.html?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=wapp Wes N7WS On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 03:06:07 PM MST, Steve Harrison wrote: [snip] BUT I do draw the line at contributing to a DXpedition, like the present Glorioso one, that states outright they do NOT intend to operate any CW. That just rubs me entirely the wrong way, not to mention the fact that I will never be able to work and count them, regardless of how INDEXA or the NCDXF feel about such mode restrictions, and is the reason I cannot, and will not, fully support either of those organizations. Would I feel the same way if they said, instead, that they will not operate any digital, or even voice, but only CW?? No, of course not; that's fair game, to me, since my only interest is CW, and who needs those other modes?? 8-D Steve, K0XP _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: TT8XX QSL Help
On 4/26/2024 2:10 PM, Wes Stewart via Topband wrote: Stepping back onto the soapbox. Gilles writes: " Is the rules even is not good hamspirit for a simple click to sent the batch of DX'pedition QSO to LOTW server 6 mouth after date. I think this sums up what I was commenting on before. The members of DXpeditons spend personal funds, foundations, corporate sponsors and individual donors provide more funds, yet there can still be a shortfall. The team endures hardships galore that I won't try to document to provide us with new entities and excitement. Their last chance of financial recovery is via QSL requests and yet some say, "Why should I pay for a simple mouse click?" That's true; however, rember that you aren't simply paying for a "simple mouse click"; you're also paying for: a) all those hours you spent in the pileup with no pay forthcoming except, assuming you shells out a few extra greenbacks, a pretty fanchey-schmanchey postcard that's been run through a printer somewhere; b) all the electrons that went up through your power cord, got speeded up from 60 Hz (or DC from batteries or photons, in the case of solar-powered guys like myself) into ham band energy; c) all the hours of filament and cathode-depletion of your 6146s or 572Bs or 3CX800s or 8877s or 4CX1000s or even your LDMOSes or FETs; d) And just how many thousands did you spend on putting up that huge tower with the multi-kilobuck antler waving in the breeze at the top, not to mention your multi-kilobuck fanchey-schmanchey radio?? All of that costs each of us some bread, even if we don't tabulate it on an invoice. And folks still bitch, moan and groan about shelling out a couple or a few greenbacks for a confirmation... Personally, I don't mind contributing a couple of Lincolns or maybe a couple of Hamiltons or even a Jackson or two toward DXpeditions that are going to get me closer to either 160 DXCC (obligatory Topband content 8-) or the Honor Roll. BUT I do draw the line at contributing to a DXpedition, like the present Glorioso one, that states outright they do NOT intend to operate any CW. That just rubs me entirely the wrong way, not to mention the fact that I will never be able to work and count them, regardless of how INDEXA or the NCDXF feel about such mode restrictions, and is the reason I cannot, and will not, fully support either of those organizations. Would I feel the same way if they said, instead, that they will not operate any digital, or even voice, but only CW?? No, of course not; that's fair game, to me, since my only interest is CW, and who needs those other modes?? 8-D Steve, K0XP _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: TT8XX QSL Help
Stepping back onto the soapbox. Gilles writes: " Is the rules even is not good hamspirit for a simple click to sent the batch of DX'pedition QSO to LOTW server 6 mouth after date. I think this sums up what I was commenting on before. The members of DXpeditons spend personal funds, foundations, corporate sponsors and individual donors provide more funds, yet there can still be a shortfall. The team endures hardships galore that I won't try to document to provide us with new entities and excitement. Their last chance of financial recovery is via QSL requests and yet some say, "Why should I pay for a simple mouse click?" Wes N7WS On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 03:09:41 PM MST, gilles desansac F6IRA wrote: Depending team's... but we knew that for I2YSB trips you will ALWAYS pay for QSL. Nosense for me but they are not alone into DX'peditions to do the business. Is the rules even is not good hamspirit for a simple click to sent the batch of DX'pedition QSO to LOTW server 6 mouth after date. Finaly is your choice to fight the pileups or not I do not ! Seventy three(s) Hopefully i'm always join teams with better QSL'ing feeling. F6IRA Le 22/04/2024 à 21:39, Bill Gillenwater a écrit : > I am a little confused with the QSL options for the Chad/TT8 operation > that is in progress. > > Most (and I say MOST) operations have 3 or more options for getting > QSO confirmation. > > I'm filling "band-slots" for Chad and basically want a LOTW > confirmation (eventually). > > You can donate "up-front" or pay $$ via the OQRS process. OQRS says > LOTW included with card request. > > Now, if I do none of the above, will they eventually dump the logs to > LOTW? I usually see a comment in DXpediton postings that eventually > you get a LOTW confirmation. Can't find that anywhere on this one. > > Thanks 73 Bill K3SV > > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector Gilles DESANSAC F6IRA 55 Rue du stade 40410 Pissos Courriel : f6...@live.fr Tel : 06 27 58 22 46 _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
