Re: Topband: 160

2019-08-03 Thread Artek Manuals
To further Paul's point , CW "readers" have been around for decades. Automating the reply process on CW seems to me to be a "relatively simple" programing exercise with a USB keyer.� Heck by adding the ability to activate the frequency scan of most modern transceivers to mix I can scan up and

Topband: NR1DX, Dave, Introduction

2019-08-03 Thread Artek Manuals
I joined the group yesterday so by way of introduction  here is my background I was first licensed in 1961. I remember my first contact on 160M vividly, homebrew  6AQ5/807 running about 50 watts and a BC348...I still have the receiver but not the home brew transmitter. I had attached about

Re: Topband: FT8 on 160 - how you can make a difference

2019-08-03 Thread Artek Manuals
Dave If read your post correctly you are saying that you are working against an ambient noise level of 20-30 db over S9 is that correct.? And for starters your measurements are made against that background did I understand that correctly? Trying to keep this simple Dave NR1DX On

Topband: WAR !

2019-08-03 Thread Artek Manuals
Taking the 160M FT8 rant further ( nothing better to do) As I was out clearing a path through the jungle this morning in preparation for the 2 wire beverage it occurred to me that what we REALLY NEED is a "WAR Award" Worked All Robots ! Then following this thread further and

Topband: Useful things to use FT8 for

2019-08-03 Thread Artek Manuals
I understand many of you are frustrated by the FT8 camel with his nose in the tent. Things change Now FT8 showed up while I was on sabbatical for 10+ years from the hobby so I am now just getting into it. On the negative side I agree 1) It has caused a loss of contacts on CW 2) It is a lot

Topband: Modeling close to earth ( was Odd-ball question)

2019-08-24 Thread Artek Manuals
Chuck et all It is well documented that the the NEC-2 based programs leave something to be desired� with wires on or very near the ground, This includes most of the EZENEC� family and MMANA-G� Purportedly NEC-4 ( there is a Ezenec version which runs with NEC 4 engine ... not a cheap date)

Re: Topband: 160m Season Has Begun Here

2019-08-24 Thread Artek Manuals
Sig One of the few things I miss about living in New England (don't miss it enough to own a snow shovel again), Is the 160/80 path to EU My theory is LA/SM/OH and OJ0 all have a really "long" gray line. right now. What time did you work OJ0O ?� I just finished my "prototype" N/S R-BOG

Re: Topband: Modeling close to earth ( was Odd-ball question)

2019-08-25 Thread Artek Manuals
/24/2019 7:53 PM, Artek Manuals wrote: Chuck et all It is well documented that the the NEC-2 based programs leave something to be desired� with wires on or very near the ground, This includes most of the EZENEC� family and MMANA-G� Purportedly NEC-4 ( there is a Ezenec version which runs with NE

Re: Topband: Modeling close to earth ( was Odd-ball question)

2019-08-25 Thread Artek Manuals
!!. At the new QTH the best tree supports resulted in a 6db pattern decrease directly pointed a Europe 8^(... Which is why I ended up with a "T" instead of an "L".) Dave NR1DX On 8/25/2019 8:25 AM, Artek Manuals wrote: Jerry et all My personal antenna FOR 1

Re: Topband: BOG questions

2019-08-25 Thread Artek Manuals
Lloyd et all Isn't a BOG say 3" or 6" high draped over the weeds really now a very low beverage and not a BOG at all? It now needs to be longer and terminated to ground on the far end like you would a beverage in order to be effective? Wish the NEC4 engine wasn't so expensive I am getting

Topband: FYI Robot contacts "outlawed" by ARRL

2019-08-21 Thread Artek Manuals
ALL Pursuant to the discussion a few weeks ago about robot  contacts ( and to some degree robot digi contacts since that mode is most conducive) . As of the July board meeting the ARRL has officially disallowed robot contacts ( in any mode) for contest and DXCC credit. It was not mentioned

Topband: BOG questions

2019-08-23 Thread Artek Manuals
I am in the process of experimenting with an RBOG .. I have seen in several places that  BOGS are "self-terminating" and as such have an optimum length (on 160M) of something on the order of 200-250 feet. Longer BOGs supposedly have degraded directional properties for lengths shorter and

Re: Topband: Relationship Between Ground Wave and Low-Angle Radiation

2019-09-13 Thread Artek Manuals
Pete Interesting idea to be sure...Regardless of the "theoretical" answer. I would suggest you take daily readings (probably between 11AM and 1PM) for a month and log those before starting to add radials. If day in and day out you get variation of more than a few tenth's of a db the W3LPL

Re: Topband: 160 portable vertical

2019-08-07 Thread Artek Manuals
PaT What Mike says is only partially true about receiving antennas . Ideal yes . but not necessary...especially for a casual family vacation DXepedition and I think Mike might have missed the part where you said in DECEMBER, a quieter winter month . I worked well over 100 countries

Topband: Wire for 2 wire BOG

2019-08-09 Thread Artek Manuals
So what is the recommended 2 wires conductor/cable for a 2 wire reversible BOG? More specifically what can I get at the big-Box home supply? I have heard of folks trying twisted pair doorbell wire, I have heard of folks getting old military field wire at the surplus places. i really don't have

Re: Topband: Coax for Top-band beverage antenna

2019-09-20 Thread Artek Manuals
a wrote: Dave, The run to the feedpoint of the beverage is about 600'  The beverage antenna itself will be coax and that will be about 800'. Kevin, N9JKP On Thursday 19 September 2019, 10:25:04 CDT, Artek Manuals wrote: Kevin How long a run we talking here? Dave NR1DX On 9/19/2019 1

Re: Topband: Coax for Top-band beverage antenna

2019-09-19 Thread Artek Manuals
Kevin How long a run we talking here? Dave NR1DX On 9/19/2019 11:17 AM, Kevin Shea via Topband wrote: I have read that the skin effect at 2 MHz may be deeper than the copper coating on a copper covered steel inner conductor of most RG6 cables.� Thus, as I plan for long cable runs back from

Topband: 60' High T with Elevated radials

2019-11-13 Thread Artek Manuals
John touche !...for clarification,  65' high ( at top), Supported by 70' tall hickory trees. Radials are 90' long (5' off the ground) 8^). lot is 200x270 ( just shy of 1.25 acres) With non resonant, elevated radials, Common mode currents are a big deal. And the choke ended up with 4 turns

Re: Topband: 160m Conditions Last Night

2019-11-12 Thread Artek Manuals
Here in the deep south we generally don't get the kind of 160M openings to EU that you enjoy up north, the price we pay for not freezing to death when the lights go out and being able to work on our antennas year round, I lived in NH and MN� for 15 years before moving back to FL so I know

Re: Topband: Rx Antenna System

2019-11-22 Thread Artek Manuals
Tony I have used one of these they do work . I had an opportunity to compare it with a more typical end fed bog of the same length in the same direction. They are identical in performance . In my situation both BOG's were installed over very poor ( essentially well drained dry sand). Pro's

Re: Topband: BOG

2019-12-03 Thread Artek Manuals
You sit around in the pub for long thinking these UP? I just built a LOG myself ( Loop on Ground) ... I also modeled a SLOG ( square loop on ground) but decided that it wasn't very good Dave NR1DX On 12/3/2019 5:56 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: polliwog piece of long limp inductive wire on

Re: Topband: BOG

2019-12-03 Thread Artek Manuals
You mean it will never be a BAG (Beverage Above Ground)? Dave NR1DX On 12/3/2019 6:49 PM, K4SAV wrote: You won't have any success trying to rename a BOG.  A BOG (Beverage On the Ground) is an accurate and appropriate name.  Harold's first "Beverage" was actually a BOG.  A short time later it

Re: Topband: Temporary antenna suggestion for 160

2019-12-15 Thread Artek Manuals
2nd mike's point about the elevated radials if you have the room, and I underscore his point about not connecting the above gnd radials to earth ground and the need for a beefy common mode choke Dave NR1DX On 12/15/2019 9:22 PM, Mike Waters wrote: Do the inverted-L, but use at least two

Topband: Beverage Length vs F/B or (RDF?)

2019-10-18 Thread Artek Manuals
one On Oct 17, 2019, at 9:31 PM, Artek Manuals wrote: Tim Which antenna will you be using ; BOG, Beverage or a FLAG/Pennant I have been doing some experimenting with the BF-4X with BOGs and Beverages in both very poor sandy soil and then again at a water front (salt) canal location. Eventu

Re: Topband: BevFlex-4X - RX antenna

2019-10-18 Thread Artek Manuals
Tim Which antenna will you be using ; BOG, Beverage or a FLAG/Pennant I have been doing some experimenting with the BF-4X with BOGs and Beverages in both very poor sandy soil and then again at a water front (salt) canal location. Eventually I will get around to trying out a FLAG/Pennant

Re: Topband: Grounds

2019-10-18 Thread Artek Manuals
And NEITHER of those have thing to do with a RF Ground at a specific frequency  Dave NR1DX On 10/18/2019 11:36 AM, Roger D Johnson wrote: I wish there some sort of inoculation that hams could get that would allow them to discern the difference between a power line safety ground

Re: Topband: Beverage Length vs F/B or (RDF?)

2019-10-18 Thread Artek Manuals
my iPhone On Oct 18, 2019, at 7:53 AM, Artek Manuals wrote: Jim Poor front to back can indeed be a result of being too long. Although w8JI would argue that at 700 feet your just about at optimum (1.5 wavelengths) I would think it would be easy to add an insulator /jumper and a set

Topband: Speaking of 3D2AG

2019-11-26 Thread Artek Manuals
Speaking of 3D2AG Does anyone know why Tony does not show any CW contacts ( 160 or otherwise) in his Online ( club-log) Log? The FT8 & FT4 confirmations are there but no CW. I have asked him a couple of times about it and he ignores the question ...odd Grumpy Dave  NR1DX -- Dave

Re: Topband: H40TT on 160m

2019-11-26 Thread Artek Manuals
Thats great .NOT even an ESP hint here in the south east... I listened from 07:30Z to 12:00Z ...my reward was I did finally get to work 3D2AG who I have been "stalking" for months, so the band conditions were OK in that direction ...I guess the morning was not a total loss Grumpy Dave (

Re: Topband: Computer noise

2019-11-26 Thread Artek Manuals
Could be coming from the power supply? Sometimes simple clip on chokes are not enough either. I have a similar problem here on 20M I have dual (Identical) monitors . One has an irritating but not debilitating  spur on 20 the other doesn't ..If I swap the monitors the spur follows the monitor.

Re: Topband: H40TT on 160m

2019-11-25 Thread Artek Manuals
Nothing here in Florida ...not even a hint. Nothing else heard from the Pacific in general could be condx �What are they using for an antenna? Dave NR1DX On 11/25/2019 2:13 AM, Gary Smith wrote: Hi John, Listening with 3 different Rx antennas in CT & no cigar at this QTH. Not the first

Re: Topband: Saturday night

2019-11-24 Thread Artek Manuals
Dave et all Friday night was better to be sure than  Saturday night. Here in the deep south we got no sunset or sunrise bump. In fact early in the evening there were almost no EU to be heard, a few Caribs which were quickly worked through. I gave up around 0200 and set an alarm for 0500.

Topband: OFF TOPIC: AMP NEEDS RIDE FROM DFW TO FL

2019-11-25 Thread Artek Manuals
Apologies in advance for off topic post If there is anyone on the list in the DFW area that is DRIVING to FLORIDA between now and the end of the year?   I have an 80 lb amplifier ( Alpha 9500) that needs a ride. Would obviously much rather it make the trip in someone's trunk than pay the

Re: Topband: Additional comments on the BevFlex-4X

2019-11-23 Thread Artek Manuals
Ned I was with right up until the last statement. What exactly is "ohmic isolation" ? I never heard that term before ..could you expand on that Dave NR1DX On 11/23/2019 3:21 PM, Ned Mountain wrote: - Unified Microsystems has put a lot of effort into improving the quality and water

Re: Topband: Ohmic resistance question

2019-11-23 Thread Artek Manuals
As I suspected . thy "digging implement" tis naught but a spade . ! Dave NR1DX On 11/23/2019 11:42 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 11/23/2019 8:04 PM, GEORGE WALLNER wrote: I think the question was meant as a joke, as it is called "galvanic isolation". Almost 20 years ago, an

Topband: Odd (?) Propagation this Wednesday AM

2019-11-27 Thread Artek Manuals
I went to bed the 2nd time last night around 0900Z (not much to show for my 0700-0900 2 glass of water alarm. I decided to leave the computer and rig on 1840 listening to dreaded drone of the FT8 bees. I slept in and didn't get up till 1300Z an hour after my sunrise, Scanning the JTDX record

Re: Topband: ZK3A

2019-10-08 Thread Artek Manuals
Shelby Not all their computers logs as of the online time stamp get fed into the online database.  Sometimes it takes another 12 to 24 hours for a particular stations logs (As I recall there are at least 3 stations on the air at all-times) to get uploaded. The reported time stamp is a bit

Re: Topband: Furnace RFI

2019-10-03 Thread Artek Manuals
Mark, Bill et all If you Google "Furnace Fan RFI" you will find a host of information on how to cure rfi from variable speed AC ( & HEATING) blower fans. Turns out that the fans in fact meet the FCC specs but at the level we operate at they can wipe out the 500hz segments every 18-25khz. The

Re: Topband: Looking for antenna suggestions

2019-10-12 Thread Artek Manuals
Fred 1) You will be (pleasantly) surprised at how well a 300' beverage actually works on 160 ( and will work great on 80 & 40) 2) At 200' BOGs actually do well. I just finished a series of experiments with some BOGs and have worked several new ones that we could not copy on the Xmit

Topband: Ground return wire under a Beverage

2019-10-12 Thread Artek Manuals
I have been experimenting a lot with BOGs in the last couple of months. And now thanks to a very amiable neighbor will be moving into building some more traditional elevated Beverages in the 450 to 500 foot range My bogs and the beverages are /will be constructed using RG6 as the antenna

Re: Topband: PreStew coming next weekend

2019-10-13 Thread Artek Manuals
Hi Tree Thanks for the reminder actually I had better VK/ZK openings this summer on the EAST coast than I have for the last month 8^). Europe and Africa are definitely better though 8^) Does N1MM do the distance/score calculation for the SP? Must since the exchange is the grid square I

Re: Topband: Remote operation

2019-10-13 Thread Artek Manuals
Neither What is killing amateur radio is that for most young people it is not relevant. When you can chat face to face anywhere in the world with a PC and cell phone they ( understandably) don't see the attraction or experience the thrill of hanging up a wire and waiting for sunset/sunrise

Re: Topband: PreStew coming next weekend

2019-10-13 Thread Artek Manuals
for everyone. Tree On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:56 AM Artek Manuals mailto:manu...@artekmanuals.com>> wrote: Hi Tree Thanks for the reminder actually I had better VK/ZK openings this summer on the EAST coast than I have for the last month 8^). Europe and

Re: Topband: Temporary antenna suggestion for 160

2019-12-19 Thread Artek Manuals
Frank I agree with you if the elevated radials are "resonant" .� However my experience is the direct opposite with non resonant radials� for my elevated system. Mine are 90' long for 160M. So far this year I have worked 118 countries (102 confirmed) since getting back on the air� starting in

Re: Topband: 300 ohm twin lead for bidirectional Beverage antennas

2020-02-29 Thread Artek Manuals
Since the relevant portion of the original post was not quoted not sure what the original problem was but If your looking for an "easy" and reliable solution for a bi-directional beverage in a single run so to speak, look at a copy of "The Beverage Antenna Handbook" by Misek. He shows a

Topband: RDF vs F/B

2020-01-24 Thread Artek Manuals
Steve et all I think both characteristics of receiving antennas are important depending on your location and the types of noise you are looking to "minimize" For those of you (and I at one time)  who have the good fortune to be located in relative quiet rural / remote environments like the

Re: Topband: Nasty QRM From ??

2020-01-24 Thread Artek Manuals
Dick There are many sources that can generate this kind of "noise" . More common of recent are variable speed blower motors in modern furnaces and central A/C units. Next are cheap switch mode power supplies from a plethora of items, manufactured in PRC. And finally outdoor lights that come

Re: Topband: Beverage performance VS term resistor

2020-01-24 Thread Artek Manuals
Steve I am curious, what antenna modeling program are you using that gives direct readout in RDF? Or are you  "estimating"  it from the antenna graphical pattern? Dave NR1DX The recent experiments with my Beverages in the cold weather has raised some comments about the termination resistor

Re: Topband: Beverage performance VS term resistor

2020-01-24 Thread Artek Manuals
readout of the RDF value. Don (wd8dsb) On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:21 AM Artek Manuals mailto:manu...@artekmanuals.com>> wrote: Steve I am curious, what antenna modeling program are you using that gives direct readout in RDF? Or are you� "estimating"� it from the antenna graphica

Re: Topband: ARRL CW Contest

2020-02-17 Thread Artek Manuals
NR1DX: Equipment: 1400W + 60' (20M) high  "T" with 3 elevated radials + Bevs & BOGs Location: Near Tampa Florida Here in Florida, except for Africa and the Carib, we typically do not enjoy the same good condx to EU that you fellows up north get the price we pay for not having to use our

Topband: 20kv 500pf....Re: de n7dd

2020-01-09 Thread Artek Manuals
Larry You could always use two 10KV 1000pf in series might be easier to find Dave NR1DX manu...@artekmanuals.com On 1/8/2020 11:35 PM, Larry via Topband wrote: does anyone know of a HV (20KV) capacitor with a value of approximately 500 pf that has a NPO value? thanks in advance. larry/n7dd

Re: Topband: Topband resource

2020-01-15 Thread Artek Manuals
Roger Apples and oranges Your antenna is not a dipole but rather an Inverted V . Inverted V's have a significant "vertical" radiation component compared to a dipole I am not sure how you can compare your performance to the W4RNL installation given your 750 miles north of there? Please

Re: Topband: FCP results

2020-01-20 Thread Artek Manuals
Richard Glad to hear you are having good results with your FCP. What is the basis for your estimate of a 4-6 db improvement? Which prior antenna configuration was your improvement based on (or i.e. which was the 2nd runner-up) Dave On 1/20/2020 7:59 AM, Richard McLachlan wrote: After

Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity

2020-03-23 Thread Artek Manuals
On 160M the " skin depth" of ground goes beyond the grass ...so it depends on more than just your yard but also the type of soil underneath, how often it is watered , fertilized etc etc. What are you trying to do that you need to know? Dave NR1DX On 3/23/2020 6:01 PM, Chortek, Robert L.

Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity

2020-03-24 Thread Artek Manuals
Ahhh ...but what about vertical antennas with elevated radials ? On 3/24/2020 1:04 AM, Jim Brown wrote: On 3/23/2020 9:05 PM, donov...@starpower.net wrote: Excellent skin depth reference here: www.antennasbyn6lf.com/files/ground_skin_depth_and_wavelength.pdf Rudy is a great reference

Topband: BOG Front to back

2020-09-12 Thread Artek Manuals
Mike I have taken the liberty of changing to subject line to more accurately reflect the content of your reply on the Waller Flag thread After much reading and a lot of personal experience and experimentation I am of the opinion that BOG front-to-back is a function not only the length but

Re: Topband: Wednesday CW DX Activity Night

2020-10-15 Thread Artek Manuals
Roger I am curious, why Wednesday night ( when many have to get up and go to work the next morning?) instead of Friday or Saturday? Was on.. on and off� the only station on CW early in the evening was OX/OZ1AHJ.. and then a "G"� a bit later but was who ever it was in and out of the QSB

Re: Topband: Good Conditions, Little Activity

2020-10-09 Thread Artek Manuals
DELETE, DELETE DELETE AT LEAST CHANGE TO SUBJECT LINE ON THE THREAD IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO TURN THIS INTO A FT8 BASHING SESSION , WHICH AS I RECALL THE MODERATOR/LIST OWNER BANNED LAST YEAR TALK ABOUT A WASTE OF BANDWIDTH DAVE On 10/9/2020 1:02 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 10/9/2020 7:54 AM,

Re: Topband: 80 and 160

2020-10-12 Thread Artek Manuals
Ron et all Same here not the first DX station at our ( FL ) Sunrise. I called a couple of times and did not even show up in VK/ZL on PSK Reporter which I usually do at sunrise. I then slid up to 80 and there were JA's a VK's and then I got called by a YC8 for a new on one 80 . Guess the LUF

Re: Topband: Phased staggered beverages

2020-10-18 Thread Artek Manuals
I think the spacing is a bit wide  try something more on the order of 250-270' ( goes through the middle of the house right 8^) Dave NR1DX On 10/18/2020 11:20 AM, Kenny Silverman wrote: My new house has 6 wooded acres in roughly a square. For EU, I was hoping to get a pair of phased 500’

Re: Topband: Spectrum

2020-05-29 Thread Artek Manuals
Rick I have had Spectrum in the past but dont� a tthe moment , never had a problem...BUT a lot of vatables can play inot this This can be a function of grounds ( at the radio and at the Spectrum distribution box). I t can also be an unlucky choice of cable lengths which turned out to be

Re: Topband: Some experiments with a short beverage, not succeeding very well

2020-06-30 Thread Artek Manuals
Mark Tell us more about the transformer? My own experience is that core material and impedance matching at the frequency of interest often pays off. I have a 200' BOG (N-S) and a 460ft� x 6ft Beverage (E-W) . Both antennas work very well for what they are comparing them to what I hear on

Re: Topband: Need Opinion on DXE RPS-1 or RPS-2 Preamp

2020-12-03 Thread Artek Manuals
Ed What receiver do you have now? You may not need a preamp at all? Have you tried the BOG without a preamp yet? Dave On 12/3/2020 4:42 AM, Edward via Topband wrote: Sorry. Meant RPA 1 or 2. On 3 Dec 2020, at 12:38 PM, Edward wrote: Any good? If not this one, which preamp would you

Re: Topband: CQWW and 160

2020-12-01 Thread Artek Manuals
Ron Count me in , I agree no same country contacts, PERIOD AND you wouldn't loose any zones ..zones 3, 4 and 5 are covered in Canada as well! Dave NR1DX On 12/1/2020 12:27 PM, Ron Spencer via Topband wrote: Here too in central NC conditions were, at best, poor. Bad prop and lots of

Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year

2020-12-02 Thread Artek Manuals
Wes You got that right,you gotta walk a mile in the other guys shoes!! When I lived in New Hampshire working EU on 160 was a walk in the park compared to the kind of propagation we get down here in FL or what the guys out west have to EU ( I did a stint as N7EX for a while in Spokane) ...

Topband: CQWW a bust this year

2020-11-30 Thread Artek Manuals
Conditions certainly didn't favor 160 over the weekend CQWW contest here in Florida at least. Looking back in 2019 I worked 50 countries on 160 during CQWW, this year it was only 17, only 3 Europeans and those were very weak. I'm sure the lack of expeditions due to CV-19 played a part but on

Re: Topband: I need help proofing an Inverted L model I made please. 40

2020-12-10 Thread Artek Manuals
Especially if you have elevated radials you will need a choke otherwise the coax and your shack will become part of the ground plane. . In my case I have a choke ( for common mode currents) and UNUN to match the 25 ohm impedance of the antenna to 50 ohms. In some installations the common

Re: Topband: EZNEC Ground Errors

2020-12-11 Thread Artek Manuals
OR The propagation mode on 160 is not what we have popularly come to "Accept". There is a growing body of evidence that particularly at gray line that signals often arrive at a higher angles. This is often attributed to "ducting" . Maybe a lot more of 160 intercontinental propagation is  due

Re: Topband: 160m Band opening phenomena

2020-12-16 Thread Artek Manuals
Here in Florida in the evenings we get a fairly consistent opening to Europe it begins about 1 hour BEFORE local Sunset (2215Z) , Peaks about 1/2 hour before Sunset and then all but dies out on most nights by 15min after official sunset. Later around 0200Z things slowly build back up till

Re: Topband: I need help proofing an Inverted L model I made please. 40’ x 143’, four 100’ radials, #14 wire.

2020-12-11 Thread Artek Manuals
Jim et all I agree with what you say on all points when it comes to radials on the ground and salt water affects. However I have always wondered about elevated radials . The NEC ( both 2 and 4) models (not that those are to always be trusted) show very little (if any) improvement beyond

Re: Topband: 7Q7

2020-11-20 Thread Artek Manuals
Tom I'm using a 470 foot E/W Beverage here  in Florida on receive and a 60' high "T"  with four 90' elevated radials for transmit (TS890/KPA1500) . The CW operation the first night was quite a QSB roller coaster and I had no success catching the right xmit frequency  with the peaks. The

Re: Topband: [TowerTalk] Feed Point Choke Question

2020-11-07 Thread Artek Manuals
about scientific concepts that have long been well understood. 73, Jim K9YC On 11/6/2020 12:58 PM, Artek Manuals wrote: Jim Show me the ACTUAL antenna range pattern measurement data  with and without the common mode choke on a a similar antenna, with a reasonable SWR ( LESS THAN 1.5:1

Re: Topband: Solar Flux Question

2020-11-06 Thread Artek Manuals
Bill Last night ON 160 I worked 32 European and SA stations with the reported SFI of 88.  earlier in the week with a similar SFI number I heard nothing from EU on 160. Conclusion : At these levels SFI is not the factor Conditions on 15 and 12 have been for the last week or so been great .

Re: Topband: OT - Bonding Radials at Intersections

2020-11-06 Thread Artek Manuals
Among other things they will and can arc if very close or even intermittently touching. if they are not bonded the currents and voltages on each wire may be different enough to arc then you get interesting things going on especially at high power,. I had a related experience where I had radial

Re: Topband: Radial wire

2020-11-06 Thread Artek Manuals
 Bill Arcing is probably not an issue at least for the 1st couple of years. I guess at some point 10 years down the road and your bargain wire is likely not UV resistant rated (?) Over time it will weather and crack ., running 1.5KW on FT8 you run the risk of setting the grass or leaf litter

Re: Topband: Vertical choke needed?

2020-12-31 Thread Artek Manuals
Kenny My personal experience with radials on the ground is that with a fair number (16 or more) that I end up with little if any common mode currents on the coax . Smaller (numbers of)� ground mounted radial counts could benefit somewhat from a choke, depends on other factors� besides the

Re: Topband: Vertical choke needed?

2021-01-01 Thread Artek Manuals
Jim/ K9YC I am with you 100% on your comments below my 80/ 160 verticals all run "10 lbs of ferrite" at the feed points but that is because I run elevated non resonant radials these days. 5lbs of ferrites just got to warm to touch, but that is fodder for a whole different thread.� My

Re: Topband: Band Conditions

2021-01-05 Thread Artek Manuals
Compared to last year...they are Dave NR1DX On 1/5/2021 5:25 AM, Jim Brown wrote: With all the posts here in the last few days one might draw the conclusion that band conditions are really terrible! 73, Jim K9YC _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband -

Re: Topband: One Way Propagation.

2021-01-17 Thread Artek Manuals
Comment below On 1/17/2021 11:09 AM, Wes wrote: I'm not going to smack this tar baby, other than to note that Elecraft is a special case with respect to S-meters.  K3(S) have an "Absolute" mode that compensates for preamp gain or input attenuation. So the S-meter becomes a decent power

Re: Topband: s meter

2021-01-18 Thread Artek Manuals
Ron et all Ditto Dave NR1DX On 1/18/2021 7:29 AM, Ron Spencer via Topband wrote: For the low bands, I typically listen on my receive antennas. S meter readings on them are proportional to the signal strength but not an accurate account. I'd estimate it might be 4 or 5 S units down from the

Re: Topband: One Way Propagation.

2021-01-17 Thread Artek Manuals
Roger Lucky you!  My S meter rarely goes below S4( on the BOG) and S8 on the transmit antenna  .. In the context of measuring one way propagation there  is the purist's dilemma of receiving antenna signal level vs transmit antenna signal level ? Dave NR1DX On 1/17/2021 8:04 AM, Roger

Re: Topband: Vertical choke needed?

2021-01-01 Thread Artek Manuals
True indeed Charlie It was such an observation by accident that clued me into the fact that I needed a choke on a system with elevated radials the first time :) Dave NR1DX On 1/1/2021 2:10 PM, n0...@juno.com wrote: To offer another view.IMHO Measure the impedance at the base of the

Topband: Elevated radial number vs efficiency

2021-01-01 Thread Artek Manuals
Mike & Bill Thank you!!! I sometimes think there is too much emphasis on NEC modelling and never enough real world verification with actual field measurements {I have hijacked the original thread and changed the subject. to be more on point } N6FL  was quoted earlier in the previous

Re: Topband: Elevated radial number vs efficiency

2021-01-01 Thread Artek Manuals
atts. Broke a number of DX pileups, to my utter amazement. *Having said that, I had nothing else to compare it to in an A/B test! 73, Mike W0BTU On Fri, Jan 1, 2021, 3:37 PM Artek Manuals wrote: Correction that should be N6LF (not N6FL) NR1DX On 1/1/2021 4:26 PM, Artek Manuals wrote: N6F

Re: Topband: Elevated radial number vs efficiency

2021-01-01 Thread Artek Manuals
Correction that should be N6LF (not N6FL) NR1DX On 1/1/2021 4:26 PM, Artek Manuals wrote: Mike & Bill Thank you!!! I sometimes think there is too much emphasis on NEC modelling and never enough real world verification with actual field measurements {I have hijacked the original th

Re: Topband: Question about on ground radials field.

2020-12-31 Thread Artek Manuals
Not a simple , on size fits all answer What happens depends on the frequency  you are talking about     ( I assume 1.825 but if it is a multi band vertical ..then???) and how much above the ground plane you are talking about And the approximate foot print of your radial systems ( square lot

Re: Topband: CQ 160

2021-02-01 Thread Artek Manuals
Here in the south ( Florida) much the same propagation.. A few really strong stations from EU ( one UA2F that was so strong as to be suspicious) . The best EU signals were nearer their sunrise. Earlier in the evening not so much, a handful of week  EU stations with deep QSB were the norm

Re: Topband: Elementary Inverted L questions

2021-03-25 Thread Artek Manuals
Technically the insulation should electrically lengthen the antenna about 1.5-2 % (lower the frequency) As Wes said the dimensions would be helpful. is the flat op horizontal or does it slope down if it slopes how low is the far end? I dont think 17 turns of RG400 is doing much for you on

Re: Topband: Looking for hi-Z antenna

2021-03-10 Thread Artek Manuals
Rich Roughly how big is your back yard? Any trees over 30' high? ( I did work Antarctica from Texas once with a Bnut HF-9V and about 8 radials, so even a blind pig finds a truffle now and then ...but your instincts are correct about there being better alternatives ...8^) Dave NR1DX On

Topband: Broad band antenna approach for 160 Contesting

2021-02-27 Thread Artek Manuals
Rick et all I have changed the Subject line rather than further hijack Tree's original thread I have a "T" Radiator 60' high  with flat top of the T, 80' long. Next 4 elevated non resonant  90' radials at 6ft.This gets me to ~22.5 ohms, 2.25:1 matching  transformer out of Sevick to go to

Re: Topband: PL259 type connectors for RG11

2021-04-08 Thread Artek Manuals
My go to guy for Silver-Teflon PL-259 and� Amphenol. Good selection of Solder and Crimp ON ...Also sells those hard to find heavy duty crimp tools https://www.ebay.com/str/n5iawrfcommunications Cant recommend him enough Dave NR1DX On 4/8/2021 3:22 PM, Raymond Benny wrote: I'm in the process

Re: Topband: Comscope 3227

2021-04-08 Thread Artek Manuals
Is that "SOLID" copper center conductor or the Copper plated aluminum as is the case with LMR400 these days...8^( Dave NR1DX On 4/8/2021 5:43 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 4/8/2021 2:18 PM, Jim Garland wrote: On a related topic, I’ve stopped using LMR400 and LMR400UF coax completely for HF work,

Re: Topband: ARRL CW Contest

2021-02-22 Thread Artek Manuals
in all I spent about 5 hours mostly from 04:30Z to 07:00Z both nights Signals were generally good . Unusual "spotlight" propagation Friday Night/Saturday morn. Worked a half dozen S5xxx stations ALL with unusually loud signals. More than one over S-9 on the BOG. While ALL other EU's were down

Re: Topband: Wednesday CW DX Activity Night

2022-01-04 Thread Artek Manuals
Roger I am not exactly sure which BETA RBN sight you are referring to. Could you post a link? Generally speaking here in the deep south of NA I can clearly see the affects of the up swing in the sunspot cycle. The prior two years on most evenings I could copy some EU at my sunset. The

Re: Topband: Need antenna help

2021-12-07 Thread Artek Manuals
The first question to ask is what is the operating goal for 160. 1) Local net or rag chew with his buddies.? In that case use the existing vertical assuming the AATU can match it is enough . Might have to a add lump loading coil at base  to get it the point AATU can deal with it . Generally

Re: Topband: LOOP on ground test 160m

2022-01-07 Thread Artek Manuals
Andy I did a lot of experiments about two years ago with LOGs and BOGs.  Generally I found the BOG to be better and a smaller investment in "wire". I did a lot of experiments with feeding the LOGs in different locations (sides, corners, etc) and the results we never very outstanding. Now I

Re: Topband: K9AY Loop Questions

2022-01-07 Thread Artek Manuals
Comments below On 1/7/2022 6:23 AM, Roger Kennedy wrote: But I picked up on people saying that EZNEC doesn't model these antennas near the ground very well. This is very true of EZENEC based on NEC -2EZENEC PRO 4 based on NEC-4 depending on attention to detail and uniformity of soil

Re: Topband: Radials on ground

2022-01-07 Thread Artek Manuals
Pete I  was just  having this very discussion with some one else this week. We modeled a 100 ' tall T on 160 M with sixty-four 100' long radials using NEC-4. with that many radials there was essentially no discernible difference between #22 wire radials and #14 radials on average earth

Re: Topband: PLease!

2022-02-01 Thread Artek Manuals
I am with Pete on you "no quoted context" guys . I have given up and simply delete those messages without reading as well ( your loss not mine) Ahhh and then are the "well meaning thread hijackers" . In my vision of the "next life"  both groups will be doomed to trying to work Bouvet and P5

Re: Topband: K9AY RX antenna

2022-01-31 Thread Artek Manuals
Pete. The recent modeling I did in evaluating the effects of soil type for the Folded Counter Poise as a ground plane was a real eye opener as to how much soil conductivity affects the performance of any given antenna. QUESTIONS: 1) What Kind of soil are you working with (conductivity,

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