Re: Topband: 80 meter 4-square
If I've learned anything in my 40yrs a ham, then I know you'll get replies from all sides. I'll just advise you to build it and see. A couple years ago I asked a similar type of question about a 4Sq array of wire inverted L's in the sloping woods. I have 2 raised radials per. (I also have them on 40 & 20) Got lots of replies that it wouldn't work, or wouldn't work well. Both 80 and 40 work great. I had a 2el array of low inverted L's on 160m (needs repair now_) The 80m one works well. It doesn't work "VY2ZM, K1LZ or VE1ZZ" well, but it works. Build it and they will come. Mike VE9AA.. Hello Guys and Gals, I have been planning on building an 80 meter 4-Square around my 117' tower. I know it will likely require detuning the tower to make it 'invisable' to the 4-square so that is probably in the cards. Because of the difficulty of my particular location have to consider shifting the array a bit. Wondering if offsetting it from the tower a couple of feet to the east would matter? I've also thought about slightly orienting the 4-square instead of on N-S-E-W to turn it like 10 degrees where the north-south lineup of verticals would be more like 10 degrees - 190 degrees and the east west accordingly. The reason for this would be that the side hill to the NE where I have my one vertical has about 5 foot dropoff to the level ground. Basically I like in a gorge area with a seasonal creek through it but you deal with what you have of course. Any thoughts pro or con? Terry KI7M Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: 80 meter 4-square
I think a 1/2 wave diamond array 4 square would look and work great since your tower is at 117 feet Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> From: Topband <topband-boun...@contesting.com> on behalf of terry burge <k...@comcast.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 11:11:18 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: 80 meter 4-square Hello Guys and Gals, I have been planning on building an 80 meter 4-Square around my 117' tower. I know it will likely require detuning the tower to make it 'invisable' to the 4-square so that is probably in the cards. Because of the difficulty of my particular location have to consider shifting the array a bit. Wondering if offsetting it from the tower a couple of feet to the east would matter? I've also thought about slightly orienting the 4-square instead of on N-S-E-W to turn it like 10 degrees where the north-south lineup of verticals would be more like 10 degrees - 190 degrees and the east west accordingly. The reason for this would be that the side hill to the NE where I have my one vertical has about 5 foot dropoff to the level ground. Basically I like in a gorge area with a seasonal creek through it but you deal with what you have of course. Any thoughts pro or con? Terry KI7M _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: 80 meter 4-square
Hello Guys and Gals, I have been planning on building an 80 meter 4-Square around my 117' tower. I know it will likely require detuning the tower to make it 'invisable' to the 4-square so that is probably in the cards. Because of the difficulty of my particular location have to consider shifting the array a bit. Wondering if offsetting it from the tower a couple of feet to the east would matter? I've also thought about slightly orienting the 4-square instead of on N-S-E-W to turn it like 10 degrees where the north-south lineup of verticals would be more like 10 degrees - 190 degrees and the east west accordingly. The reason for this would be that the side hill to the NE where I have my one vertical has about 5 foot dropoff to the level ground. Basically I like in a gorge area with a seasonal creek through it but you deal with what you have of course. Any thoughts pro or con? Terry KI7M _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: 80 meter 4-Square verticals
Mike, Is your 80m 4square like the ON4UN with the L pointing towards each other. I was reading his book the other night. Great stuff. 73 Darrell AB2E From: Topband <topband-boun...@contesting.com> on behalf of Mike Smith VE9AA <ve...@nbnet.nb.ca> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 6:02:30 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: 80 meter 4-Square verticals Terry, I think Bill KH7XS just went through this exercise. That said, my (Comtek) 80m 4-square is made 100% from wire and hung in the woods as inverted L's. Raised radials. Seems to work. Electrons don't (really) care if you use $1000 worth of aluminum or $100 of used wire. Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB Hi Folks, I've decided to get serious and try to put up an 80 meter 4-Square around my 117' tower of Rohn 55. Getting into my place can be a VERY SERIOUS CHALLENGE to any tandem rig so that may make getting 40' long 3" and 2" irrigation tubing difficult to deliver. I've got new steel racks on my 3/4 ton Dodge pickup but I think the best I can do in length is about 25' or so. Has anyone come up with a better method to build some 80 meter 1/4 wavelength verticals that won't cost a ton of bucks? There is also the problem of going from 3" to 2" tubing with a conductive joint. Probably will just see if the local supplier can deliver them and let them deal with that busy narrow road. I'm going to be elevating the verticals about 10' up with elevated radials per some of the info in 'Low Band DXing'. Thought about using wire verticals but would like something a bit more substantial. Do need something that can give me some serious help on that band. Any help? Terry _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: 80 meter 4-Square verticals
Terry, I think Bill KH7XS just went through this exercise. That said, my (Comtek) 80m 4-square is made 100% from wire and hung in the woods as inverted L's. Raised radials. Seems to work. Electrons don't (really) care if you use $1000 worth of aluminum or $100 of used wire. Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB Hi Folks, I've decided to get serious and try to put up an 80 meter 4-Square around my 117' tower of Rohn 55. Getting into my place can be a VERY SERIOUS CHALLENGE to any tandem rig so that may make getting 40' long 3" and 2" irrigation tubing difficult to deliver. I've got new steel racks on my 3/4 ton Dodge pickup but I think the best I can do in length is about 25' or so. Has anyone come up with a better method to build some 80 meter 1/4 wavelength verticals that won't cost a ton of bucks? There is also the problem of going from 3" to 2" tubing with a conductive joint. Probably will just see if the local supplier can deliver them and let them deal with that busy narrow road. I'm going to be elevating the verticals about 10' up with elevated radials per some of the info in 'Low Band DXing'. Thought about using wire verticals but would like something a bit more substantial. Do need something that can give me some serious help on that band. Any help? Terry _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: 80 meter 4-Square verticals
Hi Folks, I've decided to get serious and try to put up an 80 meter 4-Square around my 117' tower of Rohn 55. Getting into my place can be a VERY SERIOUS CHALLENGE to any tandem rig so that may make getting 40' long 3" and 2" irrigation tubing difficult to deliver. I've got new steel racks on my 3/4 ton Dodge pickup but I think the best I can do in length is about 25' or so. Has anyone come up with a better method to build some 80 meter 1/4 wavelength verticals that won't cost a ton of bucks? There is also the problem of going from 3" to 2" tubing with a conductive joint. Probably will just see if the local supplier can deliver them and let them deal with that busy narrow road. I'm going to be elevating the verticals about 10' up with elevated radials per some of the info in 'Low Band DXing'. Thought about using wire verticals but would like something a bit more substantial. Do need something that can give me some serious help on that band. Any help? Terry KI7M _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
