Topband: Rig Question

2014-06-20 Thread Trent Fleming
Gentlemen, I am grateful for the many thoughtful responses, both directly and on the reflector. My price point is around the TS-590 and FT-1200 range, otherwise I believe I would consider the K3. As many have said, thank goodness for choices and personal preference. Here's what I have taken

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2014-06-19 Thread W7RH
Much of the discussion of todays transceivers is like comparing apples to apples. My situation did not require a big box status symbol with over a hundred button features. My requirements were standard communications interface ala serial, USB or Ethernet control with a decent receiver. Sub

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2014-06-19 Thread Carl
. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: W7RH midnigh...@cox.net To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Rig Question Much of the discussion of todays transceivers is like comparing apples to apples. My situation did not require a big box

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2014-06-19 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
a personal and emotional choice, and perceived rather than real useful performance. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: W7RH midnigh...@cox.net To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Rig Question Much of the discussion of todays transceivers

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2014-06-19 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/19/2014 9:05 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote: Is my P3 Monitor worth it. Yes. necessary no. Does it allow me to work DX faster yes. Pretty handy knowing exactly where the last guy the dx just worked was or the pattern the dx uses or finding holes in the pileups. Yes, and it's also

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2014-06-19 Thread Carl
- Original Message - From: W0MU Mike Fatchett w...@w0mu.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:05 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Rig Question Is my P3 Monitor worth it. Yes. necessary no. Does it allow me to work DX faster yes. Pretty handy knowing exactly

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2014-06-19 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
On 6/19/2014 1:30 PM, Carl wrote: ** Perceptions, pressure, freebies all play into the picture. I wont disagree the K3 has a good receiver, especially for CW but GOOD DXpedition/contest ops have contended with worse for decades and set new records I remember when Chip, K7JA, paid me a visit in

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2014-06-19 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Carl k...@jeremy.mv.com wrote: How many rigs have true diversity receive? One? Does it help? It sure does. ** For the handful that have the real estate to implement it properly. Though I can see what you are getting at in your other points, I really don't

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2014-06-19 Thread Gary and Kathleen Pearse
Fast forward a few years: http://lists.contesting.com/_3830/2001-11/msg00025.html I had the pleasure and unique experience to share a chair with Rich KL7RA, Chip K7JA, and others. Watching, listening, soaking in all I could of their radio techniques and pileup control was a once in a lifetime

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2014-06-19 Thread Mike Waters
With a K3 and a PC running the right software (?), this can be done without the P3, correct? AND, I can click the display with a mouse to jump to that freq? Because if I can't, I may pass on the K3. I see that there are a number of different K3 rig control programs, but I don't know the

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2014-06-19 Thread W0MU
With the right software and interfacing. The P3 gets the information from the IF of the K3. On 6/19/2014 1:00 PM, Mike Waters wrote: With a K3 and a PC running the right software (?), this can be done without the P3, correct? AND, I can click the display with a mouse to jump to that freq?

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2014-06-19 Thread Carl
but boring. The rig was a Galaxy 5 and Hunter 2000B.far from high end state of the art. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Herb Schoenbohm he...@vitelcom.net To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Rig Question On 6/19/2014 1:30 PM

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2014-06-19 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/19/2014 12:00 PM, Mike Waters wrote: Is anyone here controlling their Elecraft K3, etc. with their PC? Yes. I mostly do rig control with N1MM for contesting, but also use WSJT-X for JT65 and JT9, and DXLab Commander for general logging. N1MM integrates the mouse with its own band map,

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2014-06-19 Thread Martin Kratoska
Dne 19.6.2014 21:00, Mike Waters napsal(a): Is anyone here controlling their Elecraft K3, etc. with their PC? 73, Mike www.w0btu.com Yes, I do. Everything in Linux supporting Hamlib/rigctld via UDP port is a good choice. The Linux clone of TR log (by W9CF) works well (choose K2 as your

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2014-06-19 Thread Bob Garrett
Gentlemen, How did this conversation morf from aarigs to the pros and cons of specific contests? More importantly, how does this relate to the Topband reflector? 73, Bob K3UL _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

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2014-06-17 Thread Carl
...@yahoo.com Cc: topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:13 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Rig Question I'm still living in the 60s. I use a Galaxy GT-550 for non 160M work. 73, Jeff KH6O / 6 _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband - No virus found

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2014-06-17 Thread Thomas W4HM
This past winter season I borrowed a friend's K3 and used it and my Kenwood TS-590S in a SO2R setup in a number of RTTY contests. I found that 99% of the time the TS-590S heard what the K3 did. It was a pleasant surprise. Neither rig suffered 2 kHz spacing IMD crud. I also ran a SO2R RTTY

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2014-06-17 Thread Max Cotton
It's not that long ago when everyone would be raving about the Drake R-4C , so many pictures of top Topband Dxer's with one on the table, how times change. 73, Max M0GHQ/W8BX _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

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2014-06-17 Thread Carl
with it Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Max Cotton airra...@dsl.pipex.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:59 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Rig Question It's not that long ago when everyone would be raving about the Drake R-4C , so many pictures of top Topband Dxer's

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2014-06-17 Thread Mike Waters
I suppose that means that you prefer your customized phase-locked Drake C-line? 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com wrote: I prefer analog detection of weak signals in noise, but I can live with the K3 when it is adjusted to my liking.

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2014-06-17 Thread Carl
Having just completed being host station for W1AW/5 and also a multi-op for the ARRL June VHF Contest where we had several guest operators at W5ZN who ranged from highly skilled HF ops, some mid level ops and some Rookie ops I have been reading this thread with both interest and humor. I

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2014-06-16 Thread W0MU
The 2nd receiver in the 990 is essentially a 590 receiver so that makes sense. I would be pretty upset if the main 990 receiver was no better than the 590. What are you paying for. On 6/15/2014 10:22 PM, Gary and Kathleen Pearse wrote: On my 990 the 2nd receiver was consistently night after

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2014-06-16 Thread Gary and Kathleen Pearse
Paying for? Weight, eye candy, and interface? Oh, and a better behaved ALC. However, as I noted I didn’t fuss with much over 20M and SSB, so maybe that’s where the 990 excels. They are very nice to observe and operate. The primary receiver on my early 990 may have been maladjusted, as it was

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2014-06-16 Thread Mike Waters
That's what I've heard before. What's the reason, and is there a mod to fix that? 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Carl k...@jeremy.mv.com wrote: The couple of K3's Ive listened to sound horrible on SSB... _ Topband Reflector Archives -

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2014-06-16 Thread Don Kirk
The one thing that's keeping me from buying a TS590 for use on the topband is the use of a mechanical relay versus solid state switching between TX RX. Had problems develop over a long period of time with my first HF transceiver (also a Kenwood) regarding the first character sent being shortened

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2014-06-16 Thread Phil Duff
I've had lots of good rigs over the years and my K3 sounds as good if not better on SSB as any of them. Maybe the bad sounding K3s receiver EQ settings were misadjusted or left on factory default flat. Was a narrow roofing filter in use? How was the width and filter shift adjusted? Was hi

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2014-06-16 Thread Greg
: Rig Question That's what I've heard before. What's the reason, and is there a mod to fix that? 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Carl k...@jeremy.mv.com wrote: The couple of K3's Ive listened to sound horrible on SSB... _ Topband Reflector Archives - http

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2014-06-16 Thread Tom W8JI
it sounded like the FT1000D...I then had my friend come in and close his eyes and did the A/B comparison...and he couldn't tell the difference. So, yes, the K3 will require some adjustment to be pleasing to any particular ear but it's pretty easy to do if you want to. (Now he doesn't like the

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2014-06-16 Thread Carl
: Rig Question The main receiver in the 990 is supposed to be better than the 2nd rcv. Things that make you go h. Mike W0MU On 6/15/2014 6:21 PM, Gary and Kathleen Pearse wrote: TU Mike for the info. I’ll call them tomorrow. BTW, the 2nd receiver in my TS-990 was consistently better

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2014-06-16 Thread Mike Waters
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com wrote: I prefer analog detection of weak signals in noise, but I can live with the K3 when it is adjusted to my liking. I don't like all the menus, I thought a K3 could be interfaced with a computer (using 3rd-party software) so the

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2014-06-16 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/16/2014 1:39 PM, Mike Waters wrote: What I heard was bad, was the receive audio on SSB, what's coming out of the speaker connected to it. Are we on the same page? 99% of my hamming is done with headphones, and I find the audio system quite decent on cans. The K3 speaker is a small one,

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2014-06-16 Thread Greg
] On Behalf Of Greg Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 1:56 PM To: 'topband' Subject: Re: Topband: Rig Question I have a friend who doesn't like the K3 because of the SSB audio...said he likes his FT1000D much better. I happen to have a FT1000D in the shack so I tuned both receivers to the same station

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2014-06-16 Thread Carl
it was untolerable Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Greg n...@windstream.net To: 'topband' topband@contesting.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 3:55 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Rig Question I have a friend who doesn't like the K3 because of the SSB audio...said he likes his FT1000D

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2014-06-16 Thread Carl
, the last bike Ive owned as moving back from IL to NH in 73 convinced me a bike was suicide in New England. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com To: topband topband@contesting.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 2:11 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Rig Question That's

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2014-06-16 Thread Gary and Kathleen Pearse
In my earlier comments I avoided direct comparisons between the TS-590S and K3. In my experience anyone maligning or questioning a K3/P3 is eventually in for a few bee stings, as that topic brings out a swarm of loyalists defending the hive. I was through this earlier this year on their group

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2014-06-16 Thread Ashton Lee
The K3’s (I have 2) come sounding pretty bad on SSB. But there are some standard settings for the equalizer which get them sounding pretty good. I’m not sure why they don’t leave the factory that way. All in all I find the K3s unbeatable for CW and on a par with other good rigs on SSB.

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2014-06-16 Thread Hardy Landskov
ashton.r@hotmail.com To: Guy Olinger K2AV k2av@gmail.com Cc: topband List topband@contesting.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Rig Question The K3’s (I have 2) come sounding pretty bad on SSB. But there are some standard settings for the equalizer which get them

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2014-06-16 Thread Mike Waters
That's interesting. Did you have the speech processor on? Mic gain too low? Or was the audio too bassy with not many highs? 73, Mike http://www.w0btu.com/ssb_audio-weak_signal.html On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Hardy Landskov n...@cox.net wrote: Everyone please tell me why I have to

Topband: Rig Question

2014-06-16 Thread Peter Voelpel
3db less power certainly make a difference 73 Peter -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Hardy Landskov Everyone please tell me why I have to practically scream into the mic to get through a pileup with a K3? The FT1000D was no

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2014-06-16 Thread Merv Schweigert
Lots of things to check, processor on, what mic used, need the bias turned on for your mike, have mic gain set for high or low in the menus, have the right amount of ALC showing K3 needs the ALC to be showing 5 or 7 bars, not 1 bar flickering like some radios suggest. Barefoot? if so

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2014-06-16 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Not a flame. Good TX audio could involve just about every TX adjustment in a K3 depending on whose voice and what microphone. The short answer is to set up a K3 specifically to get some punch from *your own voice* as picked up by a *particular microphone*. This involves using the KDVR3, a

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2014-06-16 Thread Bob Kupps via Topband
Well I have one of the earlier K3s ~#1000, that was never modified, never had a software upgrade and got quite a few unsolicited reports of good audio, the few times I ever went on SSB outside a contest. Using the Heil headset they sell with it. It's finally gone back to the factory since for

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2014-06-16 Thread Radio KH6O
I'm still living in the 60s. I use a Galaxy GT-550 for non 160M work. 73, Jeff KH6O / 6 _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

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2014-06-15 Thread Thomas W4HM
Trent the Kenwood TS-590S would meet your requirements and it has a better receiver in it than the TS-2000. The TS-590S receiver section rivals the K3. 73 God Bless, Thomas F. Giella W4HM Lakeland, FL, USA thomasfgie...@gmail.com W4HM's Amateur SWL Autobiography: http://www.w4hm.org ---

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2014-06-15 Thread Bob Garrett
Greetings, I've owned the FTDX1200, the TS590 and the K3. IKMHO, the 1200 has a better sounding and more versatile receiver than the 590. The DSP and DNR is definitely superior and the roofing filters provide a few more options when trying to dig out a weak station adjacent to a strong signal.

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2014-06-15 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/15/2014 1:57 PM, Bob Garrett wrote: Regarding the K3, Look at what Rob Sherwood has to say. It is far superior to both the 590 and 1200 but it should be for the price. I'm in the middle of the ARRL VHF contest, with a K3/P3 bandscope on 6M, and a vintage TS790A on 2M. I have the P3 set

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2014-06-15 Thread Carl
- Original Message - From: Bob Garrett rgarre...@comcast.net To: 'Greg' n...@windstream.net; topband@contesting.com Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Rig Question Greetings, I've owned the FTDX1200, the TS590 and the K3. IKMHO, the 1200 has a better sounding and more

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2014-06-15 Thread mstangelo
2014 20:35:55 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Topband: Rig Question Why not just get a K3 instead of something that rivals it. It's made in the USA, too, and Elecraft has the best customer service in the industry. I have no affiliation with Elecraft -- just a satisfied user. 73, Greg-N4CC

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2014-06-15 Thread Gary and Kathleen Pearse
Where is the TS-590 ALC fix described Mike? I have one and will have it done if it’s available. I also had a TS-990…the receiver performance (both primary and secondary) were no better over a month’s trial on 160-15M than my 590. Looks real good however. Eye candy usually does. I have a

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2014-06-15 Thread mstangelo
receiver with the K3. I can view the whole HF spectrum with the QS1R. Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: Gary and Kathleen Pearse pea...@gci.net To: topband List topband@contesting.com Cc: mstang...@comcast.net Sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 23:24:50 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Topband: Rig

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2014-06-15 Thread Gary and Kathleen Pearse
TU Mike for the info. I’ll call them tomorrow. BTW, the 2nd receiver in my TS-990 was consistently better at extracting very weak CW on 40-160 (mainly steady eastern RU beacons on 40, EU CW on 80-160) than the main, and as you note, an equal to the 590. Kenwood service: KENWOOD AUTHORIZED

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2014-06-15 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
The main receiver in the 990 is supposed to be better than the 2nd rcv. Things that make you go h. Mike W0MU On 6/15/2014 6:21 PM, Gary and Kathleen Pearse wrote: TU Mike for the info. I’ll call them tomorrow. BTW, the 2nd receiver in my TS-990 was consistently better at extracting very

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2014-06-15 Thread Gary and Kathleen Pearse
On my 990 the 2nd receiver was consistently night after night better able to detect a weak CW sig on 40-160. Same settings on both receivers: different settings, AGC, no AGC, ATT, RF gain varied, it didn’t matter the race was won by the second. I didn’t fuss with SSB very much so that mode may

Topband: Rig Question

2014-06-14 Thread Trent Fleming
One of the reasons I belong to this group is the experience and expertise of the operators on here. I have a question about my next step, in terms of radios. This is not necessarily a 160m question, but it does affect Topband. I currently have FT-950 Yaesu. Upgraded through some horse trading

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2014-06-14 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Trent, I have a TS-2000 here which is used almost exclusively for Remote rig contest operation of NP2P. I would never use it for a main station radio because of the difficulty of the man menus and sub menus that one must navigate through. I would highly recommend the Icom IC-7410 (a step