Re: Topband: Stew Beef

How? I don´t remember any rig at that time showing signal strength correctly and I started in the hobby in 1958. Only a few modern SDR rigs do it nowadays. And how to you report genuine signal strength reports with AGC turned off? Or while receiving on special rx antennas? Signal strength reports

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:20 PM, wrote: > Hopefully we are using real signal reports during the Stew Perry contest. > Stew would have wanted it that way. It's interesting to see people complaining about general contest issues when the thread is specifically about the

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I completely agree with Don on this. the incessant and utterly meaningless "599" or "59" because it is programmed in and the operator too lazy to think about a real signal report makes the minimal value of contests sink to zero. They have become nothing more than a vehicle to keep the ham radio

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topband@contesting.com Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 9:12:31 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Stew Beef I completely agree with Don on this.  the incessant and utterly meaningless "599" or "59" because it is programmed in and the operator too lazy to think about a real signal report

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Sorry, I think this is nonsense, especially directed toward SPTBDC. If you want to know "how well you got out" and better yet, how well you're hearing, just look at your results listing in columns BestDxKM/MAXP/QRP/LOW and compare with similar stations in your region. Also check whether you

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

"...The days of "honest reports" in a contest? I am 63 years old, operated my first contest when I was 18 and I don't remember those days. You found out how well your station "got out" by how long you waited in the pileups and how much of the time you could call CQ. ..." Well, when I retired

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

contest. Stew would have wanted it that way. Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: Rob Atkinson <ranchoro...@gmail.com> To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 14:12:31 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Topband: Stew Beef I completely agree with Don on this. the incessant and u

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> Stew would have wanted it that way. > > Mike N2MS > > - Original Message - > From: Rob Atkinson <ranchoro...@gmail.com> > To: topband@contesting.com > Sent: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 14:12:31 - (UTC) > Subject: Re: Topband: Stew Beef > > I completely ag

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One really needs to look at the contest rules before deciding to not send RST. If it is the rules, please send it. A few years ago, there was a bit of a blow up on the CQ Contest reflector over this very issue. A high scoring station decided to not send RST. He did this in order to shave a few

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

Does anyone recall the signal reports provided by Shortwave Listeners? It was SINFO, later SINPO. Signal, interference, noise, propagation, and overall. - If I recall correctly. It gave a better picture of signal quality, but took time. SWL's have time, Contesters do not. My $0.02 Art - NK8X

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On Fri,1/8/2016 8:34 AM, Mort wrote: Now, stuck with a DOS log, too old for exporting, I blench at the thought of typing 62 years'-worth, especially as I've made more QSOs since retiring than before. Before giving up on exporting it, cast about for text-based methods of exporting it to

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It's been a long time since I entered a contest seriously so I can't get DQd. Doug I wasn't born in Saskatchewan, but I got here as soon as I could. _ One really needs to look at the contest rules before deciding to not send RST. If it is the rules, please send it. A few years

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So for contesters the next logical step would be to eliminate the signal report. Doug I wasn't born in Saskatchewan, but I got here as soon as I could. -Original Message- Does anyone recall the signal reports provided by Shortwave Listeners? It was SINFO, later SINPO. Signal,

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"...some folks cried fowl" So, did he chicken out ? 73 - Mort, G2JL _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

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On Fri,1/8/2016 6:49 AM, kol...@rcn.com wrote: In my experience, the average contester is more operationally and technically savvy than the average ham, especially the average ham that complains about them. I agree. The contesters I know have better rigs, better antenna systems, better

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No he just ducked "...some folks cried fowl" So, did he chicken out ? 73 - Mort, G2JL _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband . _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

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Especially on 160 meters I don't think the S in RST has a lot of scientific value since there is no real numerical standard as it relates to true signal strength. In my own mind I have come up with a standard in which the S is directly related to the S meter reading on my radio (so I don't have

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

What I often do during a phone contest exchange is omit the signal report and only give out the section, serial number, etc. Very few operators request the signal report and when they do I reply 'my report to you is already in your logging program, there is no use in repeating it.' I could say a

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Touché > On Jan 8, 2016, at 8:49 AM, kol...@rcn.com wrote: > > In my experience, the average contester is more operationally and > technically savvy than the average ham, especially the average ham that > complains about them. > > 73, Kevin K3OX > > > > Topband Reflector

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Eggsactly. -- Michael Adams | N1EN | m...@n1en.org -Original Message- "...some folks cried fowl" So, did he chicken out ? 73 - Mort, G2JL _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: Stew Beef - RST

During slow times, like noon on 160m, you can always ask for a "real RST" and will likely receive one. DXpedition ops will often do this to check band conditions. Some of my favorite 160 QSOs were at lunch time when I was in college in IL. I would work W9QS ("W9 Quer Signal, the voice

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

> I love contests, especially those with QRP categories AND, as a QRP > afficionado, I do wish more hams would get on the air on Top Band just for > the sake of making QSOs > I thoroughly enjoy working any ham on 160 CW, > find out what my RST is, the other fella's power and antenna -

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Some scattered thoughts. This topic has been discussed before but found new life with the planned addition of a Spring Stew Perry contest. As a die hard 160m fan an additional minor contest or two have little or no effect in my opinion on rag chew operations, JT65 or RTTY operation in the

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Gary, while I am primarily a contester, I have been surprised by the amount of EU DX I can work on some non-contest nights. I agree with you; I have to say my best nights on 160M are in fact non-contest nights. Often my new 160M DXCC's have been coming not from contest nights themselves, but from

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

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On Sun,1/3/2016 11:02 AM, K4OWR wrote: I've never noticed any amount of activity, specifically on 160, on a non contest weekend, that would be impacted since there typically is hardly any...again, specifically on 160 meters. There's a segment about 5 kHz wide that is quite active 7 nights a

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Without taking a particular position on this issue, I have to wonder if any consideration has been given to this contest's namesake. How, exactly, would Stew Perry have felt about more contests (especially in his name) on Top Band? Personally, I have no idea. I pose the question merely for

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net> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:13 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Stew Beef Without taking a particular position on this issue, I have to wonder if any consideration has been given to this contest's namesake. How, exactly, would Stew Perry have felt about more contests

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com [mailto:guyk...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 7:34 PM To: Michael St. Angelo Cc: Joe Wilkowski; Larry Burke; TopBand List Subject: Topband: Stew Beef On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Michael St. Angelo <mstang...@comcast.net <javascript:_e(%7B

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Tree and Gary, Very well said indeed. It's about "tolerance" and the Golden Rule. "Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." --Robert Green Ingersoll "It is essential to employ, trust, and reward those whose perspective, ability, and judgment are

Topband: Stew Beef

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Michael St. Angelo > wrote: The Stew Perry contest is one of the better ones but I agree with Larry and > Joe. Contests tend to take over the band and interferes with other form > of >

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: Tree <t...@kkn.net> Subject: Re: Topband: Stew Beef I guess one point that needs to be kept in mind - if you add up the contests that have an impact to normal DX operation - it probably is about 10 nights a year. In some of these contests - I have wor

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For me, unless I use the amp, I get more DX on quiet nights than during a contest on 160. The more powerful stations always trump me when it comes to DX but while I'd rather make the contest DX Q, it's part of the game I chose to play, I could turn on the amp and I know if I hear them, I can

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

: Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:49 PM To: 'Larry Burke'; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Stew Beef Well, since it is a public forum I have to side with Larry on this. I am a contester and enjoy mostly top band operating but I would have to agree that too much of a good thing gets

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

wski > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:49 PM > To: 'Larry Burke'; topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: Stew Beef > > Well, since it is a public forum I have to side with Larry on this. I am a > contester and enjoy mostly top band operating but I would have to agree > that >

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s etc. seem to carry the theme too far. - Joe K8FC -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry Burke Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 6:38 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Stew Beef Fortunately participation is not mandatory fo

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Larry on this. I am a >> contester and enjoy mostly top band operating but I would have to agree >> that >> too much of a good thing gets old quick. It used to be that you looked >> forward to the SP, but warm-ups, pre-warmups etc. seem to carry the them

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* Excellent! Point made far better than I did** **BILL* On 1/3/2016 2:01 PM, Tree wrote: I guess one point that needs to be kept in mind - if you add up the contests that have an impact to normal DX operation - it probably is about 10 nights a year. In some of these contests - I have

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

of the band for non-contesting during the Stews. How is that "ridiculous"? - Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K4OWR Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 1:03 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband:

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

Good point Gary. My feelings exactly. HNY. 73/jeff/ac0c www.ac0c.com alpha-charlie-zero-charlie -Original Message- From: Gary Smith Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 11:35 PM To: Topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Stew Beef To me, I say what the hell, a good contest

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A topband contest in early-mid March The biggest problem I see with the concept is that (assuming not abnormally warm weather) for some of us that's the time of year by when Ol' Man Winter will almost certainly have brought down the good tx and/or rx antennas, but before the snowpack

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Stew Beef Fortunately participation is not mandatory for those who have had enough. Ah, but that's exactly my point. Those with a limited or no interest in this event DO have to "participate" in it by virtue of the additional weeken

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

too far. - Joe K8FC -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry Burke Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 6:38 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Stew Beef > Fortunately participation is not mandatory for those who have

Re: Topband: Stew Beef

Four Stew Perry events is *not* going too far. Here's why I say that. The Stew Perry Topband Challenge --compared to other 160 CW contests-- is by far the fairest of all 160m CW contests. It was simply a stroke of genius, the way it is set up. Period. It is also shorter! If it were as long as

Topband: Stew Beef

Somebody's got to be the curmudgeon here -- guess I'll volunteer. Not everyone on Topband is excited to see this. Let me see if I've got this right. First there was the Stew, then the pre-Stew (a contest to get ready for a contest), next a Summer Stew. Now there's going to be a Spring Stew?

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I tend to agree Larry - even more Stew is not necessarily a good thing. Steve WEB - "The VE7SL Radio Notebook": http://members.shaw.ca/ve7sl VE7SL BLOG - "Homebrewing and Operating Adventures From 2200m to Nanowaves": http://ve7sl.blogspot.ca/ _ Topband Reflector

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ginal Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jeff AC0C Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 5:31 PM To: Steve; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Stew Beef Fortunately participation is not mandatory for those who have had enough. Given the winter stew was a

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Wednesday, December 30, 2015 5:05 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Stew Beef I tend to agree Larry - even more Stew is not necessarily a good thing. Steve WEB - "The VE7SL Radio Notebook": http://members.shaw.ca/ve7sl VE7SL BLOG - "Homebrewing and Operat

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I was hoping for a weekly Stew. Think about that and maybe you'll feel better about a seasoned stew. 73, Bill KU8H On 12/30/2015 06:05 PM, Steve wrote: I tend to agree Larry - even more Stew is not necessarily a good thing. Steve WEB - "The VE7SL Radio Notebook":

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WWSD? ᐧ On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Bill Cromwell wrote: > I was hoping for a weekly Stew. > > Think about that and maybe you'll feel better about a seasoned stew. > > 73, > > Bill KU8H > > > > > On 12/30/2015 06:05 PM, Steve wrote: > >> I tend to agree Larry - even