Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-23 Thread ON4GPE
sting.com> Subject: Re: Topband: The band sans noise Bill, Sounds great ! hihihi A lot cheaper than a Pixel too ! Until now I have kept my comments to myself about the Pixel. I had a Pixel for a short time and sold it. At the time I had electrical hash from one direction due to loose hardware on

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-23 Thread Bob K6UJ
: Interesting comments about the WF. I recently built one and so far it has been a complete failure. Care to share the details? Ken K6MR From: Bob K6UJ<mailto:k...@pacbell.net> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 10:30 To: topband@contesting.com<mailto:topband@contesting.com> Subject: Re: Topba

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-23 Thread Ken K6MR
Re: Topband: The band sans noise Bill, Sounds great ! hihihi A lot cheaper than a Pixel too ! Until now I have kept my comments to myself about the Pixel. I had a Pixel for a short time and sold it. At the time I had electrical hash from one direction due to loose hardware on a power pole. It

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-23 Thread Bob K6UJ
Bill, Sounds great ! hihihi A lot cheaper than a Pixel too ! Until now I have kept my comments to myself about the Pixel. I had a Pixel for a short time and sold it. At the time I had electrical hash from one direction due to loose hardware on a power pole. It took forever for our utility

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-23 Thread william radice
I have an antenna of very similar design and performance. It is an all aluminum lawn chair on a pole. BILL On 4/22/2016 1:42 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote: > Throw bricks all you want to the end of time but you'll never change > the fact that we tested that antenna and saw its performance first >

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-22 Thread Andrew Ikin
Mike Waters wrote on April 22. snip< 1. What does the Pixel Loop do better than these and other loops? 2. What does the Pixel Loop's preamp do to improve the S/N ratio??? 3. And what IS its RDF?> The Pixel loop is balanced, so it will reject locally radiated E-Field noise providing this noise

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-22 Thread Mike Waters
I forget what the Pixel Loop looks like. But if it's anything like a tuned, link-coupled circular loop in the vertical plane with a 20 dB preamp at the loop, it will have two very deep nulls at a very low angle. I made three like that ~35 years ago, between 1 and 4 feet in diameter, made from

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-22 Thread Rob Atkinson
Throw bricks all you want to the end of time but you'll never change the fact that we tested that antenna and saw its performance first hand; The preamp was designed by Jack Smith at CliftonLabs..I'm sure he'll enjoy reading your comments and get a good laugh. 73 Rob K5UJ On Fri, Apr 22, 2016

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-22 Thread JC
SORRY am not getting into this PR.. PIXEL loop is a low RDF and LOW performance receiving antenna, it is really snake oil. I'm out of this discussion. Regards JC >> In tests, the Pixel magnetic loop provided at least 20 dB null off the sides. From my experience, that is much better

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-22 Thread Rob Atkinson
>The issue with noise is growing fast and the only way to improve signal to >noise ratio is more directivity and when possible filter the man made noise >with a horizontal loop. A big complication is that almost everyone's circumstances are different due to variables such as property size. A

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-21 Thread lennart.m
: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] För Arthur Delibert Skickat: den 21 april 2016 00:00 Till: topband@contesting.com Ämne: Re: Topband: The band sans noise You don't need to be in the sticks to put up one or two pennants and get a lot of mileage out of them. I have a fairly small

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-20 Thread Arthur Delibert
, but I took them down a long time ago, because they just weren't cutting it. Art Delibert, KB3FJO > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 08:36:26 -0500 > From: ranchoro...@gmail.com > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Topband: The band sans noise > > >Q For you folk in the q

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-20 Thread Gary Smith
Greg, This is the main reason why I am selling my house on the ocean shore front and relocating to a rural area where I can have quieter conditions. I'm taking my radio with me everywhere I think is worth a look and will put up a long random wire and listen with the K3s both day and night

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-20 Thread shristov
JC wrote: > http://wwrof.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/WWROF-WEBNAIR-RX-Antennas-for-a-Small-Lot-.pdf The file starts with some incorrect statements: "All we need is 3 dB SNR for CW and 8 dB for SSB" such a statement is completely meaningless if the measurement

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-20 Thread JC
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 10:36 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: The band sans noise Hi Guys The issue with noise is growing fast and the only way to improve signal to noise ratio is more directivity and when possible filter the man made noise with a horizontal loop. My

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-20 Thread JC
Hi Guys The issue with noise is growing fast and the only way to improve signal to noise ratio is more directivity and when possible filter the man made noise with a horizontal loop. My last presentation is available at www.wwrof.org webinar archive.

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-20 Thread Bill Cromwell
Hi Rob, I suppose I could just scrap out the gear and put more energy into my music. I play acoustic instruments (no electricity needed) at some dances and other community events along with several other musicians and acoustic instruments. In that role we *ARE* the QRM! And about the

Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-20 Thread Rob Atkinson
>Q For you folk in the quiet locations, enjoy and protect! It's a losing battle. You can't stop the imported appliance tsunami that has been going on for years, or consumers buying them and bringing them home and using them. You can run around and try, good luck with that, and invest hours and

Re: Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-20 Thread Bill Cromwell
Hi Greg, My noise is not S-9 - at least not over the entire band nor constant around the clock. I do have some manmade noise issues. In my case a mag-loop antenna on receive has been a lot of help. I doubt there is any perfect antenna. But it won't cost you a lot to brew a mag loop from some

Topband: The band sans noise

2016-04-20 Thread Greg's
Always I have wanted to permamanently run Topband, but there is just too much QRM and RFI at BOTH my station locations. After a late season ice-storm took out power for much of my area last weekend, I was SHOCKED at the activity and weak signals that were now heard. Totally amazing- but