Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
> I too find it awkward when I am working with immutable OWL resources from > standards but EDG requires the shapes - so end up doing complex automated > loading where I generate a wrapper ontology to contain created shapes and > then update imports in instance data to include these shapes

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
I think the hidden field for classes in the tree is the minimal starting point - without that we cant really do very much. Its still messy having to build a complete suite of hide-me statements. A more general solution would be pluggability of the selection for what to display. I can see a

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-23 Thread Holger Knublauch
This thread seems to cover multiple topics now, so here is a partial response. On 24/04/2020 00:44, dprice wrote: Note that this problem isn’t actually about SHACL or OWL2SHACL. It also appears in any OWL-driven UI where the user is forced to see the entire content of the ontologies in the

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-23 Thread Irene Polikoff
I would normally create a parent class for all classes I am interested in, then make it a root of the classes tree. I like it more than the hiding option. > On Apr 23, 2020, at 10:33 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > I think the hidden field for classes in the tree is the minimal starting > point -

Re: [topbraid-users] EDG: Feature Request - Use - to execute a SPARQL query in the SPARQL Window

2020-04-23 Thread Tim Smith
Wow! I sure like it when you second a request! Woohoo! Thank you! Tim On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 8:44 PM Holger Knublauch wrote: > On 23/04/2020 22:40, Tim Smith wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Would it be possible to enable the use of - to execute a > > SPARQL query in the SPARQL window? That's

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-23 Thread Holger Knublauch
It's a nice vision. My concern is that doing any transformations or filtering at query time will likely be very expensive. We need to make sure that our architecture also works for customers with millions of triples, not just for ontology editors. A one-off SPARQL query is unlikely to refresh

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
Agree it needs UI logic extension point that we can generate static data (a shapes graph) to control - certainly dont want to be looking at the data at run-time. SHACL shapes like OWL2SHACL that build such shapes graphs seem like a reasonable compromise. On Friday, 24 April 2020 13:40:24

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
OK that makes sense for this widget - sounds cleaner than hiding - might need to create a tree of dummy classes to control which subclasses are relevant I guess. This doesnt solve the other problem of needing to define propertyShapes for all the classes you use, without changing the data or

Re: [topbraid-users] EDG: Feature Request - Use - to execute a SPARQL query in the SPARQL Window

2020-04-23 Thread Holger Knublauch
On 23/04/2020 22:40, Tim Smith wrote: Hi, Would it be possible to enable the use of - to execute a SPARQL query in the SPARQL window?  That's available in TBC as well as many other query editors for Oracle, SQL Server, Databricks, etc... I find myself hitting Crtl-Enter in EDG all the time

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-23 Thread Holger Knublauch
On 22/04/2020 12:38, Rob Atkinson wrote: tracking this with interest :-) I too find it awkward when I am working with immutable OWL resources from standards but EDG requires the shapes - so end up doing complex automated loading where I generate a wrapper ontology to contain created shapes

Re: [topbraid-users] Sparqlmotion working with EDG context

2020-04-23 Thread Richard Cyganiak
Hi Colin, I think what you need to do is: 1) Get the graph URI of the asset collection containing the EDG instances. This can be found on the Settings tab of the asset collection and is a URI of the form urn:x-evn-master:... 2) In the SPARQLMotion script, use the Import RDF From Workspace

[topbraid-users] Sparqlmotion working with EDG context

2020-04-23 Thread Colin Meerveld
Hi, I created a sparqlmotion service to convert RDF to XML. For asserted triples which are deployed to EDG this seems to work fine. However, newly created instances within EDG doesn't work. I currently use the import module (see screenshot) and believe this must be changed to an EDG context

[topbraid-users] Q: Prefix does not always conform to EDG Server settings

2020-04-23 Thread Tim Smith
Hi, I set a default prefix in the Default Namespaces and Prefixes settings of: PREFIX pgont: However, when I view resources on the form in EDG I see this: URI: [image: image.png] ID: [image: image.png] Sometimes, but not always, this shows up in the Class

[topbraid-users] EDG: Feature Request - Use - to execute a SPARQL query in the SPARQL Window

2020-04-23 Thread Tim Smith
Hi, Would it be possible to enable the use of - to execute a SPARQL query in the SPARQL window? That's available in TBC as well as many other query editors for Oracle, SQL Server, Databricks, etc... I find myself hitting Crtl-Enter in EDG all the time :) It would be a "nice to have" but I

Re: [topbraid-users] Q: Prefix does not always conform to EDG Server settings

2020-04-23 Thread Richard Cyganiak
Tim, There is probably another mapping PREFIX p1: defined somewhere, either in the Default Namespaces and Prefixes, or in the collection-specific Namespaces and Prefixes on the Settings tab, or in another collection included into the collection. With those two

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-23 Thread dprice
> On 23 Apr 2020, at 07:11, Holger Knublauch wrote: > > On 22/04/2020 12:38, Rob Atkinson wrote: >> >> tracking this with interest :-) >> >> I too find it awkward when I am working with immutable OWL resources from >> standards but EDG requires the shapes - so end up doing complex automated