Re: [tor-bugs] #23119 [Core Tor/Tor]: Make Tors no longer warn if they're running a newer-than-recommended version?

2017-08-06 Thread Tor Bug Tracker & Wiki
#23119: Make Tors no longer warn if they're running a newer-than-recommended
version?
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 * milestone:   => Tor: unspecified


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Re: [tor-bugs] #23119 [Core Tor/Tor]: Make Tors no longer warn if they're running a newer-than-recommended version?

2017-08-05 Thread Tor Bug Tracker & Wiki
#23119: Make Tors no longer warn if they're running a newer-than-recommended
version?
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Comment (by Sebastian):

 I don't think we should do this. We need more precise information about
 which versions to actually *unrecommend* and do that quickly, then I'm
 more willing to add new recommended versions quickly. Probably the right
 way is to actually stop recommending anything in the consensus and just
 letting distributions and autoupdaters deal with it.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #23119 [Core Tor/Tor]: Make Tors no longer warn if they're running a newer-than-recommended version?

2017-08-05 Thread Tor Bug Tracker & Wiki
#23119: Make Tors no longer warn if they're running a newer-than-recommended
version?
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 Reporter:  arma  |  Owner:
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Comment (by arma):

 We would want to update Atlas, and other tools, so they don't write a
 scary "not recommended" next to relays that are running newer-than-
 recommended versions. But we probably want to make that change to atlas
 anyway.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #23119 [Core Tor/Tor]: Make Tors no longer warn if they're running a newer-than-recommended version?

2017-08-05 Thread Tor Bug Tracker & Wiki
#23119: Make Tors no longer warn if they're running a newer-than-recommended
version?
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 Reporter:  arma  |  Owner:
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Core Tor/Tor  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
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Changes (by arma):

 * cc: weasel, sebastian (added)


Comment:

 I am cc'ing weasel and sebastian so they can say "yes, this would help
 me".

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[tor-bugs] #23119 [Core Tor/Tor]: Make Tors no longer warn if they're running a newer-than-recommended version?

2017-08-05 Thread Tor Bug Tracker & Wiki
#23119: Make Tors no longer warn if they're running a newer-than-recommended
version?
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 Reporter:  arma  |  Owner:
 Type:  enhancement   | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Core Tor/Tor  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal|   Keywords:
Actual Points:|  Parent ID:
   Points:|   Reviewer:
  Sponsor:|
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 Right now, we need to get three dir auths to add lines to their torrc
 files before we can put out a new release. Sometimes, we screw that up
 (#23118). The rest of the time, it's still a hassle.

 One option is just to drop the recommendedversions thing entirely. I heard
 Sebastian and weasel discussing doing that.

 An intermediate option would be to have Tors stop warning when they're
 running a newer version in a series. That is, we mostly focus on having
 the recommendedversions thing warn you when you're too old, and we stop
 minding when we're too new.

 That way the dir auths only need to mess with their recommendedversions
 config when they're *un*recommending a version, which is an active
 decision that it's reasonable for directory authority operators to take.
 They never need to mess with them when some newer thing comes out (which
 should not need to involve a dir auth operator).

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