Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Type:  task | Status:  new
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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
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 * keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5, TorBrowserTeam202005R, ReleaseTrainMigration
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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:  new
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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5,|  Actual Points:
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Changes (by sysrqb):

 * status:  needs_review => new


Comment:

 (Okay. We're 30 comments into this ticket, but it's never too late for
 becoming organized).

 I opened #34321 for the current patch we're working on that is going into
 9.5.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
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Comment (by antonela):

 Thanks for working on this team! What is the final version? Will make the
 alpha? Can I have a build?

 The idea of the webpage was exactly to avoid last-minute changes in Tor
 Browser patches. I think it is good if we open a new tab for existing
 users.

 For new users, we can use "See what's new" link too.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:
 |  needs_review
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5,|  Actual Points:
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Comment (by acat):

 Replying to [comment:31 sysrqb]:
 > Replying to [comment:30 sysrqb]:
 > > Replying to [comment:24 brade]:
 > > > The current onboarding code displays two different "tours" (sets of
 panels):
 > > >  * "newtour" for new users
 > > >  * "updatetour" for users who have upgraded
 > > >
 > > > Should we omit "What's New" from the "newtour" and only have it for
 "updatetour"?
 > > > It is easy to control this via the browser.onboarding.* preferences.
 > > >
 > > >
 > >
 > > For new users should we call it "Additional Features" or "See More"?
 Phrasing that indicates more information is available? Maybe we can use
 "More Information", and re-use the PageInfo string (but that's not exactly
 an ideal string for this use case).
 >
 > "Learn More" ?
 +1 on opening tab directly for existing users.

 For new users, I don't have a strong opinion on the string we should show.
 Maybe I would still just use "See what’s new".

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:
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 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5,|  Actual Points:
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Changes (by gk):

 * keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5, TorBrowserTeam202005, ReleaseTrainMigration
 => ux-team, tbb-9.5, TorBrowserTeam202005R, ReleaseTrainMigration


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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:
 |  needs_review
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
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Comment (by sysrqb):

 Replying to [comment:30 sysrqb]:
 > Replying to [comment:24 brade]:
 > > The current onboarding code displays two different "tours" (sets of
 panels):
 > >  * "newtour" for new users
 > >  * "updatetour" for users who have upgraded
 > >
 > > Should we omit "What's New" from the "newtour" and only have it for
 "updatetour"?
 > > It is easy to control this via the browser.onboarding.* preferences.
 > >
 > >
 >
 > For new users should we call it "Additional Features" or "See More"?
 Phrasing that indicates more information is available? Maybe we can use
 "More Information", and re-use the PageInfo string (but that's not exactly
 an ideal string for this use case).

 "Learn More" ?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:
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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
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Comment (by mcs):

 Replying to [comment:28 sysrqb]:
 > Ah, this follows on from brade's comment. That was exactly the way I'd
 do it (modulo testing :)), but we should give new users a link to the
 webpage, as well (somewhere). Are you suggesting we use this for users who
 update, and we have the additional tab for new users?

 Yes, I think that makes sense.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:
 |  needs_review
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
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Comment (by sysrqb):

 Replying to [comment:24 brade]:
 > The current onboarding code displays two different "tours" (sets of
 panels):
 >  * "newtour" for new users
 >  * "updatetour" for users who have upgraded
 >
 > Should we omit "What's New" from the "newtour" and only have it for
 "updatetour"?
 > It is easy to control this via the browser.onboarding.* preferences.
 >
 >

 For new users should we call it "Additional Features" or "See More"?
 Phrasing that indicates more information is available? Maybe we can use
 "More Information", and re-use the PageInfo string (but that's not exactly
 an ideal string for this use case).

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:
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 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
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Comment (by sysrqb):

 Replying to [comment:26 mcs]:
 > Replying to [comment:25 mcs]:
 > > If you make the "See what's new in Tor Browser" button that is
 displayed on about:tor go directly to the web page then we would not need
 any new strings.  I am not sure how difficult that would be to implement
 though.
 >
 > Maybe it is as simple as doing something like this inside
 `handleClick()` (in Onboarding.jsm):
 > {{{
 > ...
 > case "onboarding-overlay-button":
 > ...
 > if (this._tourType === "update")
 >   this.sendMessageToChrome("tor-open-tab", {url: ...});
 > } else {
 >   this.showOverlay();
 >   this.gotoPage(this._firstUncompleteTour.id);
 > }
 > }}}
 >
 > Untested of course ;)

 Ah, this follows on from brade's comment. That was exactly the way I'd do
 it (modulo testing :)), but we should give new users a link to the
 webpage, as well (somewhere). Are you suggesting we use this for users who
 update, and we have the additional tab for new users?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:
 |  needs_review
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5,|  Actual Points:
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Comment (by mcs):

 Replying to [comment:25 mcs]:
 > If you make the "See what's new in Tor Browser" button that is displayed
 on about:tor go directly to the web page then we would not need any new
 strings.  I am not sure how difficult that would be to implement though.

 Maybe it is as simple as doing something like this inside `handleClick()`
 (in Onboarding.jsm):
 {{{
 ...
 case "onboarding-overlay-button":
 ...
 if (this._tourType === "update")
   this.sendMessageToChrome("tor-open-tab", {url: ...});
 } else {
   this.showOverlay();
   this.gotoPage(this._firstUncompleteTour.id);
 }
 }}}

 Untested of course ;)

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:
 |  needs_review
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5,|  Actual Points:
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Comment (by sysrqb):

 Replying to [comment:25 mcs]:
 > Replying to [comment:23 sysrqb]:
 > > Replying to [comment:22 acat]:
 > > > Would it make it simpler to make "What's New" open the link to
 https://www.torproject.org/releases/tor-browser-95 directly? (without
 showing the "subview" on the right). It seems to me the last step of
 clicking `See What's New` is a bit redundant, and maybe we could save some
 design/strings.
 > >
 > > Oh! Nice idea! That will avoid adding many new strings, too. (We'll
 still need "What's New")
 >
 > If you make the "See what's new in Tor Browser" button that is displayed
 on about:tor go directly to the web page then we would not need any new
 strings.  I am not sure how difficult that would be to implement though.

 Hr. That would be relatively easy. In that case, we move all important
 onboarding information to the webpage.

 I'm a little torn right now because the onboarding experience provides a
 nice tutorial for new users. But we can sacrifice that aspect of
 onboarding for both 1) simplicity, and 2) we'll need to reimplement all of
 this for 78esr anyway.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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Comment (by mcs):

 Replying to [comment:23 sysrqb]:
 > Replying to [comment:22 acat]:
 > > Would it make it simpler to make "What's New" open the link to
 https://www.torproject.org/releases/tor-browser-95 directly? (without
 showing the "subview" on the right). It seems to me the last step of
 clicking `See What's New` is a bit redundant, and maybe we could save some
 design/strings.
 >
 > Oh! Nice idea! That will avoid adding many new strings, too. (We'll
 still need "What's New")

 If you make the "See what's new in Tor Browser" button that is displayed
 on about:tor go directly to the web page then we would not need any new
 strings.  I am not sure how difficult that would be to implement though.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:
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Comment (by brade):

 The current onboarding code displays two different "tours" (sets of
 panels):
  * "newtour" for new users
  * "updatetour" for users who have upgraded

 Should we omit "What's New" from the "newtour" and only have it for
 "updatetour"?
 It is easy to control this via the browser.onboarding.* preferences.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
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Comment (by sysrqb):

 Replying to [comment:22 acat]:
 > Would it make it simpler to make "What's New" open the link to
 https://www.torproject.org/releases/tor-browser-95 directly? (without
 showing the "subview" on the right). It seems to me the last step of
 clicking `See What's New` is a bit redundant, and maybe we could save some
 design/strings.

 Oh! Nice idea! That will avoid adding many new strings, too. (We'll still
 need "What's New")

 I did find the subview as redundant, as well, but I decided to follow the
 same pattern as the other items. I'll create another patch with this
 behavior.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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Comment (by acat):

 Would it make it simpler to make "What's New" open the link to
 https://www.torproject.org/releases/tor-browser-95 directly? (without
 showing the "subview" on the right). It seems to me the last step of
 clicking `See What's New` is a bit redundant, and maybe we could save some
 design/strings.

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:
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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
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Changes (by sysrqb):

 * status:  new => needs_review


Comment:

 Replying to [comment:20 sysrqb]:
 > 1) Is the current design/UX a good idea?
 > 2) We have very little time for getting strings translated. What strings
 should we use?

 3) I re-used/repurposed an image from the original Onboarding experience
 for this new entry. It mostly fits, but I don't know if we have a better
 graphic available.

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Comment (by sysrqb):

 We should have something included in the 9.5 release onboarding for the
 new features. Antonela and I decided we can have one new entry named
 "What's New" (following Mozilla's new onboarding experience). This entry
 simply has a link to a webpage where new features are described.

 The webpage is currently being developed at
 https://www.torproject.org/releases/tor-browser-95/

 I have a Linux testbuild at
 https://people.torproject.org/~sysrqb/bug31660/ and I'm building a macOS X
 testbuild now (should be ready in ~2 hours).

 1) Is the current design/UX a good idea?
 2) We have very little time for getting strings translated. What strings
 should we use?

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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Changes (by sysrqb):

 * Attachment "bug31660_00_whats-new.png" added.

 What's New

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Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:18 antonela]:
 > > I think we should try
 ​https://www.torproject.org/download/torbrowser/9.5a12/new or /whatsnew
 > Awesome. Hiro and I we are working on this templating
 >
 >
 > > In addition, the "New Thing" on desktop is ​Messaging System for the
 "What’s New Panel" (under Hamburger button-> "What's New"). We should
 migrate to that after we finish the 78esr transition (on desktop). Fenix
 has a separate implementation and Mozilla's using:
 > ​https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/whats-new-firefox-
 preview?as=u_source=inproduct
 > That sounds ideal. Do you want to run it for 9.5? Seems easy enough to
 have a short descirption and a gradient-like filled onion icon :)

 Not sure what you mean but I think we don't have time to move the
 onboarding we currently have to the one Firefox is using for 9.5. I am not
 even sure whether we get to that for Tor Browser 10, although that might
 be more likely.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam202005, ReleaseTrainMigration|
Parent ID:  #33658   | Points:  4
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
 |  Sponsor58-can
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Comment (by antonela):

 > I think we should try
 ​https://www.torproject.org/download/torbrowser/9.5a12/new or /whatsnew

 Awesome. Hiro and I we are working on this templating

 > In addition, the "New Thing" on desktop is ​Messaging System for the
 "What’s New Panel" (under Hamburger button-> "What's New"). We should
 migrate to that after we finish the 78esr transition (on desktop). Fenix
 has a separate implementation and Mozilla's using:
 ​https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/whats-new-firefox-
 preview?as=u_source=inproduct


 That sounds ideal. Do you want to run it for 9.5?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam202005, ReleaseTrainMigration|
Parent ID:  #33658   | Points:  4
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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 * parent:   => #33658


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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam202005, ReleaseTrainMigration|
Parent ID:   | Points:  4
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by pili):

 * keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5, TorBrowserTeam202004, ReleaseTrainMigration
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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam202004, ReleaseTrainMigration|
Parent ID:   | Points:  4
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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 * sponsor:   => Sponsor58-can


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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam202004, ReleaseTrainMigration|
Parent ID:   | Points:  4
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by antonela):

 We don't have this work with any sponsor but I think is critical that we
 should do something. TB 9.0.6 (stable) has the onboarding-overlay-button
 in `about:tor` but it does not have any action. Could we link to a webpage
 that we can easily update? Something dynamic like:
 `tpo.org/download/version/new/$version`

 @hiro what do you think?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam202004, ReleaseTrainMigration|
Parent ID:   | Points:  4
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Changes (by sysrqb):

 * keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5, TorBrowserTeam202004 => ux-team, tbb-9.5,
 TorBrowserTeam202004, ReleaseTrainMigration


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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5,|  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam202004   |
Parent ID:   | Points:  4
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Changes (by pili):

 * keywords:  ux-team, tbb-9.5, TorBrowserTeam202002 => ux-team, tbb-9.5,
 TorBrowserTeam202004


Comment:

 Moving to April 2020

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, TorBrowserTeam201911,   |  Actual Points:
  tbb-9.5|
Parent ID:   | Points:  4
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by antonela):

 Replying to [comment:7 gk]:
 > The onboarding seems to be pretty flexible as I see an onboarding in ESR
 68 closer to what we ship where features are highlighted that then open
 menu items explaining things in more detail (assuming that general
 functionality still exists in later versions).

 Nice! I didn't see it, but for sure we can follow that pattern on the next
 iteration. Honestly, I really like the idea of keeping cards.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, TorBrowserTeam201911,   |  Actual Points:
  tbb-9.5|
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Changes (by gk):

 * Attachment "onboarding.png" added.


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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, TorBrowserTeam201911,   |  Actual Points:
  tbb-9.5|
Parent ID:   | Points:  4
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Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:6 antonela]:
 > i'm leaving this here so i don't forget
 >
 > https://www.mozilla.org/en-
 US/firefox/70.0/whatsnew/all/?oldversion=69.0.3

 FWIW, that's not the actual onboarding but more a general update page. The
 actual onboarding is explaining features as the previous one did. You see
 it in the attached screenshot (that's with Firefox 70.0.1) where you can
 click on the buttons to load further info or download stuff. The
 onboarding seems to be pretty flexible as I see an onboarding in ESR 68
 closer to what we ship where features are highlighted that then open menu
 items explaining things in more detail (assuming that general
 functionality still exists in later versions).

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, TorBrowserTeam201911,   |  Actual Points:
  tbb-9.5|
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Comment (by antonela):

 i'm leaving this here so i don't forget

 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/70.0/whatsnew/all/?oldversion=69.0.3

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, TorBrowserTeam201911,   |  Actual Points:
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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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 Reporter:  gk   |  Owner:  tbb-
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 Type:  task | Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium   |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team, TorBrowserTeam201911,   |  Actual Points:
  tbb-9.5|
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 * keywords:  ux-team => ux-team, TorBrowserTeam201911, tbb-9.5


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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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 Reporter:  gk|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  task  | Status:  new
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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
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Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:1 antonela]:
 > Thanks for the heads up, gk. Do you have any documentation link I could
 explore regarding any Firefox onboarding in ESR68? I failed when I tried
 to find it.

 I have not looked closely to be honest. It's part of the activity stream
 now, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1457565 being the meta
 bug. Clicking a bit around I found

 https://trello.com/c/gRkk9mI2/188-i-want-a-simple-onboarding-tour-to-run-
 at-the-first-run-of-the-first-new-tab-page

 but we should probably dig up more here.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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 Reporter:  gk|  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  task  | Status:  new
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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
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Parent ID:| Points:
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Changes (by antonela):

 * cc: acat (added)


Comment:

 adding acat here too.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #31660 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account

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#31660: Revise onboarding to take new Firefox experience into account
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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
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Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
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Comment (by antonela):

 Thanks for the heads up, gk. Do you have any documentation link I could
 explore regarding any Firefox onboarding in ESR68? I failed when I tried
 to find it.

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