Re: [tor-dev] #15060: Decide the fate of MyFamily / prop242 better families

2015-03-23 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Nusenu nus...@openmailbox.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, I like prop242 [1] because it doesn't Nuke MyFamily [2] but replaces it with a better approach. Better in terms of scalability and maintainability. I don't know of

Re: [tor-dev] onionoo: grouping families in the backend?

2015-03-23 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/03/15 15:26, Nusenu wrote: Nusenu: I figured it might make sense to discuss this in a separate thread. And just in case you were wondering, if you ever have a feature request for Onionoo, I'd be happy to discuss that. In contrast to

Re: [tor-dev] onionoo: grouping families in the backend?

2015-03-23 Thread Nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Karsten Loesing: Okay, just in case you change your mind, let's talk more about integrating this into Onionoo. There's already the `family` parameter which I specifically added for Virgil's thing. Yes I'm using the 'family' list as well now -

Re: [tor-dev] compass is unmaintained

2015-03-23 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/03/15 14:55, Nusenu wrote: Hi Karsten, thanks for your reply. -T --by-contact (#6675) (Maybe we should truncate contacts and remove the undefined) I didn't look at the ticket or code, but truncating contacts sounds like it could

Re: [tor-dev] compass: new group by options: by-contact, by-OS, by-version

2015-03-23 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19/03/15 15:12, Nusenu wrote: Hi Karsten, Hi Nusenu, I added a few new grouping options to compass: -T --by-contact (#6675) (Maybe we should truncate contacts and remove the undefined) I didn't look at the ticket or code, but truncating

Re: [tor-dev] onionoo: grouping families in the backend?

2015-03-23 Thread Nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Nusenu: I figured it might make sense to discuss this in a separate thread. And just in case you were wondering, if you ever have a feature request for Onionoo, I'd be happy to discuss that. In contrast to some of its clients, Onionoo

Re: [tor-dev] compass is unmaintained

2015-03-23 Thread Nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Karsten, thanks for your reply. -T --by-contact (#6675) (Maybe we should truncate contacts and remove the undefined) I didn't look at the ticket or code, but truncating contacts sounds like it could confuse users more than help them.

[tor-dev] onionoo: grouping families in the backend?

2015-03-23 Thread Nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I figured it might make sense to discuss this in a separate thread. And just in case you were wondering, if you ever have a feature request for Onionoo, I'd be happy to discuss that. In contrast to some of its clients, Onionoo itself is

Re: [tor-dev] onionoo: grouping families in the backend?

2015-03-23 Thread Nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 another good reason to move it to the backend: Virgil (also using MyFamily data to group relays) and any other application using onionoo can also take advantage of that (no need to re-implement it n times). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [tor-dev] name for compass fork

2015-03-23 Thread Nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Karsten Loesing: maybe give it a new name Is 'aggregator' ok, or should there be no 'tor' in the word at all? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVEDJZAAoJEFv7XvVCELh0kJAQAIGzub91WhiAmE5qpRe2Y6l3

Re: [tor-dev] name for compass fork

2015-03-23 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/03/15 16:33, Nusenu wrote: Karsten Loesing: maybe give it a new name Is 'aggregator' ok, or should there be no 'tor' in the word at all? I think onion is the new tor to build names around. Though I don't think aggregator would be

Re: [tor-dev] onionoo: grouping families in the backend?

2015-03-23 Thread Nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Nusenu: Okay, just in case you change your mind, let's talk more about integrating this into Onionoo. There's already the `family` parameter which I specifically added for Virgil's thing. Yes I'm using the 'family' list as well now -

Re: [tor-dev] RFC: Ephemeral Hidden Services via the Control Port

2015-03-23 Thread Yawning Angel
Hello all, Just a quick heads up for where this is going: * 'GET_ONIONS' was changed to be 'GETINFO' subcommands for consistency. * Code is in 'needs_review', for the 2nd round. As a proof of concept I wrote: https://github.com/Yawning/onionwrap It's a dumb quick and dirty hack that works

Re: [tor-dev] #15060: Decide the fate of MyFamily / prop242 better families

2015-03-23 Thread Virgil Griffith
So, what do we think? I'd say that MyFamily is likely to continue to Virgil's gamification site needs a MyFamily, ergo I am in favor of keeping MyFamily, whether it be in the current, prop242, or alternative form. Obviously the prop242 form is a much better rendition of MyFamily, but unless we

Re: [tor-dev] #15060: Decide the fate of MyFamily / prop242 better families

2015-03-23 Thread Griffin Boyce
So, what do we think? I'd say that MyFamily is likely to continue to MyFamily is also critical for people who are running a lot of relays. It's ideal to list keys, but in a scenario where I run two dozen relays or more, having a good shorthand for them would make it easier to group them.

Re: [tor-dev] #15060: Decide the fate of MyFamily / prop242 better families

2015-03-23 Thread teor
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:32:50 -0400 From: Nick Mathewson ni...@alum.mit.edu On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Nusenu nus...@openmailbox.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, I like prop242 [1] because it doesn't Nuke MyFamily [2] but replaces it with a