Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-10-09 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 22/09/16 01:48, Aaron Johnson wrote: Oops, this thread got lost in the Seattle preparations and only surfaced today while doing some housekeeping. Please find my response below. >> Log files are sorted as part of the sanitizing procedure, so

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-22 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/09/16 17:46, Lunar wrote: > Karsten Loesing: >>> If you feel that's interesting enough, would it be possible to >>> also add the number of download of cryptographic signatures >>> to the graph? > >> Sure, added. > > Thanks! These are

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-21 Thread Aaron Johnson
> > Log files are sorted as part of the sanitizing procedure, so that > request order should not be preserved. If you find a log file that is > not sorted, please let us know, because that would be a bug. That’s great! It just appeared ordered in that multiple related requests appeared in

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-21 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Aaron, On 20/09/16 15:43, Aaron Johnson wrote: >> >> Good thinking! I summarized the methodology on the graph page >> as: The graph above is based on sanitized Tor web server logs >> [0]. These are a stripped-down version of Apache's "combined"

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-20 Thread Lunar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Karsten Loesing: >> If you feel that's interesting enough, would it be possible to >> also add the number of download of cryptographic signatures to >> the graph? > > Sure, added. Thanks! These are interesting datapoints regarding the “but nobody

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-20 Thread Aaron Johnson
> > Good thinking! I summarized the methodology on the graph page as: The > graph above is based on sanitized Tor web server logs [0]. These are a > stripped-down version of Apache's "combined" log format without IP > addresses, log times, HTTP parameters, referers, and user agent strings. ... >

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-19 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/09/16 18:28, Aaron Johnson wrote: >>> Here's >>> >>> the same graph with more data, more request types, and of >>> course a lot more shininess: >>> >>> https://tor-metrics.shinyapps.io/webstats/ >>>

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-19 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/09/16 17:52, Lunar wrote: > Karsten Loesing: >> On 11/09/16 18:13, Georg Koppen wrote: >>> Here are the graphs showing initial downloads, update pings and >>> update requests over time: >> >>>

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-17 Thread Lunar
Karsten Loesing: > On 11/09/16 18:13, Georg Koppen wrote: >> Here are the graphs showing initial downloads, update pings and >> update requests over time: > >> https://people.torproject.org/~karsten/volatile/torbrowser-annotated-2016-09-11.pdf > >> > Here's > > the same graph with more data,

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-14 Thread Arthur D. Edelstein
This is awesome, Karsten! On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Karsten Loesing wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/09/16 18:13, Georg Koppen wrote: >> Here are the graphs showing initial downloads, update pings and >> update requests over time:

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-12 Thread teor
> On 13 Sep 2016, at 01:51, Mark Smith wrote: > > On 9/12/16 11:20 AM, David Fifield wrote: >> Oh, thanks for finding that source code link. I looked for that code and >> didn't find it. >> >> But that's exactly what I'm saying: once someone has downloaded an >> update,

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-12 Thread Nicolas Vigier
Hi, On Mon, 12 Sep 2016, Rob van der Hoeven wrote: > Hi Georg, > > I think the behavior you see can be explained by an overloaded download > server. From the initial downloads graph you can see that there are on > average 80.000 downloads a day. From the update pings and update > requests

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-12 Thread David Fifield
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:12:15AM -0400, Mark Smith wrote: > On 9/11/16 3:45 PM, David Fifield wrote: > >> * We don't know what (8) or (9) is but it seems to us we are losing > >> users over time and are only getting them back slowly if at all. A > >> weekday/weekend pattern is visible there as

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-12 Thread Mark Smith
On 9/11/16 3:45 PM, David Fifield wrote: >> * We don't know what (8) or (9) is but it seems to us we are losing >> users over time and are only getting them back slowly if at all. A >> weekday/weekend pattern is visible there as well. > > Does Tor Browser continue checking for further updates in

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-12 Thread Tom Ritter
On 12 September 2016 at 03:37, Rob van der Hoeven wrote: > One thing bothers me. The update requests graph never touches zero. It > should, because that would mean that all Tor browsers have been updated. > 100.000 seems to be the lowest value. I'm not surprised by this

[tor-dev] Tor Browser downloads and updates graphs

2016-09-11 Thread Georg Koppen
Hi all! So, Karsten, Nicolas and I were sitting together for a while and were looking at past data for figuring out how many users downloaded and updated their Tor Browser over time. We actually got more questions than we were able to answer but I guess that's fine for a start. Here are the