Re: [tor-dev] Tor Launcher UI feedback follow up

2013-05-13 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 09:47:19AM -0400, Tom Ritter wrote: My network operator does not threaten my person safety 1) This is also the first point I thought of here -- in the past we've said that some people should be using a bridge for an extra layer of it's not so obvious that I'm using Tor,

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Launcher UI feedback follow up

2013-05-13 Thread adrelanos
Roger Dingledine: On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 09:47:19AM -0400, Tom Ritter wrote: My network operator does not threaten my person safety 1) This is also the first point I thought of here -- in the past we've said that some people should be using a bridge for an extra layer of it's not so

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Launcher UI feedback follow up

2013-05-13 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 08:38:53AM +, adrelanos wrote: So what's the ethical thing to do? Totally deprecate the hide the fact, you're using Tor use case? Have a button My network operator threatens my person safety, which is honest and explains, Tor can't help Actually, Tor can help.

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Launcher UI feedback follow up

2013-05-13 Thread Kathleen Brade
On 5/13/13 3:49 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: ... 2) I really like the Configure and Connect word choices. Hopefully our users will get it too. :) Agreed. Obviously, if we discover that TBB users are confused, the words can be changed. 3) As for which order to present the options in, I

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Launcher UI feedback follow up

2013-05-13 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Roger Dingledine (a...@mit.edu): On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 08:38:53AM +, adrelanos wrote: So what's the ethical thing to do? Totally deprecate the hide the fact, you're using Tor use case? Have a button My network operator threatens my person safety, which is honest

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Launcher UI feedback follow up

2013-05-11 Thread Adam Shostack
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:04:46PM -0700, Mike Perry wrote: | Thus spake Mark Smith (m...@pearlcrescent.com): | |- Wording suggestion: | This computer's internet connection is free of obstacles: | [greenboldtext]My network operator does not threaten my person | safety[/greenboldtext] | |

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Launcher UI feedback follow up

2013-05-10 Thread Mark Smith
On 5/9/13 12:38 PM, Lunar wrote: Tom Ritter: Some small suggestions: - I'd flip the bottom and the top, with connect being on top. I actually think that placing the safer (but more complicated) option first makes it more likely that people will at least read it. But we can change our

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Launcher UI feedback follow up

2013-05-10 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Mark Smith (m...@pearlcrescent.com): - Wording suggestion: This computer's internet connection is free of obstacles: [greenboldtext]My network operator does not threaten my person safety[/greenboldtext] This computer's Internet connection is [redboldtext]censored, filtered, or

[tor-dev] Tor Launcher UI feedback follow up

2013-05-09 Thread Mark Smith
Thank you to everyone who provided feedback on the Tor Launcher UI. It has been very helpful to us and we made a lot of changes based on it. The most significant change was the addition of an initial question to the first run settings wizard, which allows people to skip all of the detailed

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Launcher UI feedback follow up

2013-05-09 Thread Sherief Alaa
Hi, Does this mean the strings are final (frozen)? I am one of Tor's support assistants/translators (in case you wonder why am I asking). Regards, Sheiref Alaa On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Mark Smith m...@pearlcrescent.com wrote: Thank you to everyone who provided feedback on the Tor

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Launcher UI feedback follow up

2013-05-09 Thread Lunar
Tom Ritter: Some small suggestions: - I'd flip the bottom and the top, with connect being on top. - Wording suggestion: This computer's internet connection is free of obstacles: [greenboldtext]My network operator does not threaten my person safety[/greenboldtext] This computer's

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Launcher UI feedback follow up

2013-05-09 Thread Mark Smith
On 05/09/2013 10:09 AM, Sherief Alaa wrote: Hi, Does this mean the strings are final (frozen)? I am one of Tor's support assistants/translators (in case you wonder why am I asking). No, we are not ready to freeze the strings yet. But I think we are close. We are just waiting on some final