Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-31 Thread starlight . 2015q1
At 20:54 1/31/2015 +0100, you wrote: Consensus weight of my relays and those of others is still near zero, and not improving. . . I read the earlier discussion around this issue with interest. Have no specific ideas about resolving the problem, but I can recommend pulling the raw text data files

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-31 Thread Bram de Boer
All, Consensus weight of my relays and those of others is still near zero, and not improving. For a network that attempts to break censorship, it is peculiar that this is getting so little attention. Apparently a few malfunctioning bwauth systems is enough to censor specific Tor relays. Endless

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-31 Thread Network Operations Center
This has already been done. And I was under the impression that things would be changing soon. I still find it weird that the network is ignoring several nodes. On 31.01.2015 09:23 PM, starlight.201...@binnacle.cx wrote: At 20:54 1/31/2015 +0100, you wrote: Consensus weight of my relays and

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-31 Thread Network Operations Center
2) This link has been posted: http://freehaven.net/~arma/moria1-v3-status-votes which is a collection of all 9 BWauth nodes. Currently there is nothing a node operator can do bar deleting his keys. Atleast no other solution has been posted in this thread. On 31.01.2015 10:23 PM,

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-31 Thread Josef 'veloc1ty' Stautner
Hello List, at this point I want to thank Bram de Boer for spending an unmetered server. Dediacted servers with unmetered network is not cheap and should be treated differently as a virtual server at OVH. I can totally agree why he is disappointed about that. Just deleting the identity is not a

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-31 Thread starlight . 2015q1
At 22:35 1/31/2015 +0100, Network Operations Center wrote: This link has been posted: http://freehaven.net/~arma/moria1-v3-status-votes which is a collection of all 9 BWauth nodes. This looks like the data from just one BWauth, 'moria1'. The full time series for the _four_ BWauth votes is

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-31 Thread Network Operations Center
What if one were to shut down the node for several days and then restart it. Wouldnt that maybe prompt the network to rescan the node? On 31.01.2015 10:48 PM, Josef 'veloc1ty' Stautner wrote: Hello List, at this point I want to thank Bram de Boer for spending an unmetered server. Dediacted

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-23 Thread Linus Nordberg
Karsten Loesing kars...@torproject.org wrote Wed, 21 Jan 2015 13:22:25 +0100: | But here's another graph, specifically for your relay schokomilch: | | https://people.torproject.org/~karsten/volatile/schokomilch-cw-2015-01-21.png | | 14C1 is tor26, 4901 is maatuska, and D586 is moria1. It looks

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-21 Thread Bram de Boer
Thank you all for looking into this. Karsten wrote: You could start a second relay on the same physical machine on a different port and see whether the bandwidth scanners pick that up. Give it a day or two, and see if only tor26 and moria1 measure it. In fact, both the

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-21 Thread Network Operations Center
My dropping consensus overlaps exactly with the blue line on that graph time-wise. The 1 Month Graph shows this pretty well. https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D7E274A87D9A89AF064C13D1EE4CA1F184F2600 It feels as if I am almost completely dependent on that blue node, although since one

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-21 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/01/15 06:03, Sebastian Hahn wrote: On 21 Jan 2015, at 05:10, eric gisse jowr...@gmail.com wrote: Holy crap, 40%? And that's been historically acceptable? I don't think it was historically like that. Actually, it's not that bad:

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-21 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/01/15 11:54, Network Operations Center wrote: My dropping consensus overlaps exactly with the blue line on that graph time-wise. The 1 Month Graph shows this pretty well.

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-21 Thread Network Operations Center
Ah I see, thanks for taking the time investigating this. If there is something I need to do to help, please let me know. On 21.01.2015 01:22 PM, Karsten Loesing wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/01/15 11:54, Network Operations Center wrote: My dropping consensus

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-21 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/01/15 13:35, Network Operations Center wrote: Ah I see, thanks for taking the time investigating this. If there is something I need to do to help, please let me know. You could start a second relay on the same physical machine on a different

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-20 Thread Bram de Boer
Karsten wrote: Did you check whether the consensus weight *fraction* also dropped? Yes, it dropped from 0.193553% to 0.00% Please post your relay fingerprint(s) here, and I'll investigate this. These are the fingerprints of the relays I operate:

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-20 Thread eric gisse
Holy crap, 40%? And that's been historically acceptable? On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Sebastian Hahn m...@sebastianhahn.net wrote: On 20 Jan 2015, at 22:58, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: We've already known about this in the context of the bandwidth authority scripts are very

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-20 Thread Sebastian Hahn
On 21 Jan 2015, at 05:10, eric gisse jowr...@gmail.com wrote: Holy crap, 40%? And that's been historically acceptable? I don't think it was historically like that. ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-20 Thread Network Operations Center
Very thorough explanation, thanks. I assume that there is nothing I can do except wait until a.) a new BWauth script is being introduced or b.) hope that a third node rediscovers me and once I have 3 votes in the bag I'm back on track. What still confuses me is why several nodes were being

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-20 Thread Felix Buedenhoelzer
On 20.01.2015 23:38, Network Operations Center wrote: Very thorough explanation, thanks. I assume that there is nothing I can do except wait until a.) a new BWauth script is being introduced or b.) hope that a third node rediscovers me and once I have 3 votes in the bag I'm back on track.

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-19 Thread eric gisse
This is roughly consistent with what I've been seeing on my own node. Weird. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:31 AM, Bram de Boer list-tor-rel...@nosur.com wrote: Update: generation of the http://nosur.com/consensus.txt list has completed now, and contains 3683 relays that exist half a year or more.

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-19 Thread Sebastian Hahn
Hey there, On 19 Jan 2015, at 10:03, eric gisse jowr...@gmail.com wrote: This is roughly consistent with what I've been seeing on my own node. Weird. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:31 AM, Bram de Boer list-tor-rel...@nosur.com wrote: Update: generation of the http://nosur.com/consensus.txt

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-19 Thread Bram de Boer
Sebastian wrote: One theory might be that the addition of a new bwauth has shifted which vote gets picked for the consensus. It's conceivable that bwauths rate relays which are placed topologically close higher than others. Thank you for your suggestion. I hope that is not the case and the

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-19 Thread Network Operations Center
I concur. Maybe it's worth to also post to the bugtracker? On 19.01.2015 08:14 PM, Bram de Boer wrote: Sebastian wrote: One theory might be that the addition of a new bwauth has shifted which vote gets picked for the consensus. It's conceivable that bwauths rate relays which are placed

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-19 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19/01/15 20:14, Bram de Boer wrote: Sebastian wrote: One theory might be that the addition of a new bwauth has shifted which vote gets picked for the consensus. It's conceivable that bwauths rate relays which are placed topologically close

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-19 Thread Network Operations Center
Yes, fraction dropped from 0,2% to 0.72% On 19.01.2015 08:45 PM, Karsten Loesing wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19/01/15 20:14, Bram de Boer wrote: Sebastian wrote: One theory might be that the addition of a new bwauth has shifted which vote gets picked for the

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-19 Thread Bram de Boer
Karsten wrote: Did you check whether the consensus weight *fraction* also dropped? Yes, it dropped from 0.193553% to 0.00% If all consensus weights dropped by a certain factor, there's no change in the probability of clients choosing your relay at all. My relay used to push 80 Mbps,

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-18 Thread Bram de Boer
Update: generation of the http://nosur.com/consensus.txt list has completed now, and contains 3683 relays that exist half a year or more. Again the relays at the top of the list show the sharp drop in consensus weight end of december and a short spike around January 6th.

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-18 Thread Network Operations Center
Hello, You are not alone with this issue ( https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2015-January/006055.html ). The weirdest part is, that consensus is fixed to exactly 20 and on Jan 06, on both nodes yours and mine the weight spiked up for a short amount and then dropped back to

[tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-18 Thread Bram de Boer
All, In December consensus weight of both my nosurveillance Tor exits dropped: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/7C3AE76BB9E9E6E4F2AE9270FD824DF54A944127 https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/E6D740ABFFAAAD8052EDF95B2C8DC4059763F365 I assumed this to be related to the directory authorities

Re: [tor-relays] Consensus weight dropped

2015-01-18 Thread Nicholas Suan
There is a similar issue with some other relays: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D7E274A87D9A89AF064C13D1EE4CA1F184F2600 https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/6911888F83565892FE23F1B03EB501D80E1E8780 There was a thread about it but nobody found out why