Re: [tor-talk] TOR bundle on hostile platforms: why?

2013-08-10 Thread Thomas . Hluchnik
Am Donnerstag 08 August 2013 schrieb adrelanos: Thomas Hluechnik: My opinion: to be honest we all assume under normal circumstances that a piece of software is trustworthy until it is proofed that it contains a weakness or backdoor. With regard of security the opposite is true:

Re: [tor-talk] Secure email with limited usable metadata

2013-08-10 Thread Mike Hearn
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:50 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: There were a few threads over on tor-talk in which a gmail staff participated. Some community suggestion was made for refundable bitcoin deposit to appease the google claims, not sure where that went. We're still paying

Re: [tor-talk] Secure email with limited usable metadata

2013-08-10 Thread fyl
On 08/10/2013 05:34 AM, Mike Hearn wrote: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:50 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: There were a few threads over on tor-talk in which a gmail staff participated. Some community suggestion was made for refundable bitcoin deposit to appease the google claims, not

[tor-talk] So what about Pirate Browser?

2013-08-10 Thread Jerzy Łogiewa
Hello! It looks that The Pirate Bay will enter secure browser market, http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-releases-pirate-browser-to-thwart-censorship-130810/ http://piratebrowser.com/ I do not understand why they do the same as TBB. Anyone know? -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu --

Re: [tor-talk] So what about Pirate Browser?

2013-08-10 Thread adrelanos
Jerzy Łogiewa: Hello! It looks that The Pirate Bay will enter secure browser market, http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-releases-pirate-browser-to-thwart-censorship-130810/ http://piratebrowser.com/ I do not understand why they do the same as TBB. Anyone know? With the limited

Re: [tor-talk] So what about Pirate Browser?

2013-08-10 Thread Randolph D.
urgh, another Firefox mashup? https://sourceforge.net/projects/torbrowser/ is with a secure QT Browser and they should have used this, as it has no Firefox backdoor. The policy must be changed to allow divers apps, so that there a several models. Mono Culture is never good. 2013/8/10 Jerzy

Re: [tor-talk] So what about Pirate Browser?

2013-08-10 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 05:20:47PM +, adrelanos wrote: Jerzy Łogiewa: Hello! It looks that The Pirate Bay will enter secure browser market, http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-releases-pirate-browser-to-thwart-censorship-130810/ http://piratebrowser.com/ I do not understand

Re: [tor-talk] TOR bundle on hostile platforms: why?

2013-08-10 Thread adrelanos
thomas.hluch...@netcologne.de: Am Donnerstag 08 August 2013 schrieb adrelanos: Thomas Hluechnik: My opinion: to be honest we all assume under normal circumstances that a piece of software is trustworthy until it is proofed that it contains a weakness or backdoor. With regard of

Re: [tor-talk] So what about Pirate Browser?

2013-08-10 Thread Lutz Horn
Hi, Am 10.08.13 20:03, schrieb Randolph D.: https://sourceforge.net/projects/torbrowser/ How often do you want to advertise this project, which clearly violates the Tor policy on usage of the name Tor? https://www.torproject.org/docs/trademark-faq.html.en Lutz signature.asc Description:

Re: [tor-talk] So what about Pirate Browser?

2013-08-10 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 07:29:39PM +, Matthew Finkel wrote: The one thing I always think about when I hear about the comparison of censorship circumvention vs. anonymity[0] is something I once heard (maybe from Jake or Roger, I apologies for not having a citation), Jake and I tried to

Re: [tor-talk] So what about Pirate Browser?

2013-08-10 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 08:03:38PM +0200, Randolph D. wrote: urgh, another Firefox mashup? Well, at least they didn't try to shmush the word Tor into the name. More power to them, I say. Though I would also recommend that they get in touch with Mike, Erinn, and others about the Tor Browser

Re: [tor-talk] So what about Pirate Browser?

2013-08-10 Thread Griffin Boyce
On 08/10/2013 12:49 PM, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: Hello! It looks that The Pirate Bay will enter secure browser market, http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-releases-pirate-browser-to-thwart-censorship-130810/ http://piratebrowser.com/ I do not understand why they do the same as TBB. Anyone

Re: [tor-talk] So what about Pirate Browser?

2013-08-10 Thread adrelanos
Matthew Finkel: However, I do think it is worth it to look at what magic they use in Iran and North Korea. Is it more than using Tor and a hidden service? I would be surprised if they recommended or implemented something else than bridges. -- tor-talk mailing list -

[tor-talk] Basics of secure email platform

2013-08-10 Thread Jerzy Łogiewa
Hello! I like to start a conversation about secure email provider, If I start new email provider now, how to guarantee security and privacy for user? Understanding limitation of email of course! Is there some best practice for secure email service? Lavabit method was it seems not enough. Do

Re: [tor-talk] Secure email with limited usable metadata

2013-08-10 Thread coderman
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Mike Hearn he...@google.com wrote: ... You may be interested in checking out Pond... https://pond.imperialviolet.org/ It is an email-like messaging system that runs over Tor, has forward security, tries to beat traffic analysis, ... this is the kind of

Re: [tor-talk] Secure email with limited usable metadata

2013-08-10 Thread mirimir
On 08/10/2013 11:34 AM, Mike Hearn wrote: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:50 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: There were a few threads over on tor-talk in which a gmail staff participated. Some community suggestion was made for refundable bitcoin deposit to appease the google claims, not

[tor-talk] Tor 0.2.4.16-rc is out

2013-08-10 Thread Roger Dingledine
Tor 0.2.4.16-rc is the second release candidate for the Tor 0.2.4.x series. It fixes several crash bugs in the 0.2.4 branch. https://www.torproject.org/dist/ Changes in version 0.2.4.16-rc - 2013-08-10 o Major bugfixes: - Fix a bug in the voting algorithm that could yield incorrect results