mirimir:
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@ioerror @jamesrbuk Stop suppressing the story on Tor.
@ioerror @smarimc @guardian The Guardian is sitting on a story about Tor -
I'll do one better: @jamesrbuk refused to show us the story/docs.
this begs two questions:
1. is this story pending polish and expected to be published at some point
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Roger Dingledine:
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 01:34:37AM +, mirimir wrote:
Wow. I just read the complaint :8
He was unfathomably stupid. Words cannot express how stupid he
was.
This has absolutely no relevance to the Tor network.
We just
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Jonathan D. Proulx:
2) Traditional police work still works - this should be good news
to the law and order folks that traditional methods still work and
no extensive digital survailance state is needed.
Note I'm only anecdotally familiar
On Thu, 2013-10-03 at 05:59 -0700, coderman wrote:
@ioerror @jamesrbuk Stop suppressing the story on Tor.
@ioerror @smarimc @guardian The Guardian is sitting on a story about Tor -
I'll do one better: @jamesrbuk refused to show us the story/docs.
this begs two questions:
1. is this
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On 10/02/2013 09:34 PM, mirimir wrote:
This has absolutely no relevance to the Tor network.
It serves as an object lesson about using good operational security
each and every time you get on the Net.
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No, it was a rookie fuck-up that enabled old-fashioned detective work. if
it wasn't a fookie fuck-up, then none of this would have happened.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Gordon Morehouse gor...@morehouse.mewrote:
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Jonathan D. Proulx:
2)
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 01:26:06PM -0400, shadowOps07 wrote:
:No, it was a rookie fuck-up that enabled old-fashioned detective work. if
:it wasn't a fookie fuck-up, then none of this would have happened.
It was human error, which is what traditional police work relies on all
the time.
I chuckled
One question is still remain unanswered. How did they locate Silkroad
server before locating him?
They had full image of the server before his arrest.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM, shadowOps07 shadow.uni...@gmail.com wrote:
No, it was a rookie fuck-up that enabled old-fashioned detective
Hey all,
I'm writing a book about the use of Bitcoin and anonymity. A fair
portion of the book will be dedicated to teaching people how to most
safely use Tor to facilitate anonymity with Bitcoin. Are there any
special tips that people have for configuring Tor or using Tor when it
comes to
Who says they arrested him as soon as he was located?
I'd bet a few bitcoins that he was found as soon as the first news story
on Silk Road came out. Looking at the origins of the Silk Road and
finding the first announcements of it would've been the first thing the
FBI did. Everything else was
Hi,
I've compiled a page with a bunch of information:
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Money
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++ 03/10/13 13:49 -0400 - Ahmed Hassan:
One question is still remain unanswered. How did they locate Silkroad
server before locating him?
They had full image of the server before his arrest.
Where have you read this or deducted this from?
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If DPR has really been known since March 2011, that'd be pretty incredible.
The FBI is really playing the long game. It's impossible to say at this
point though.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Ted Smith te...@riseup.net wrote:
Who says they arrested him as soon as he was located?
I'd bet a
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On 10/03/2013 01:49 PM, Ahmed Hassan wrote:
One question is still remain unanswered. How did they locate
Silkroad server before locating him? They had full image of the
server before his arrest.
Not sure. One hypothesis (and that's all it is - a
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On 10/03/2013 03:00 PM, Patrick wrote:
If DPR has really been known since March 2011, that'd be pretty
incredible. The FBI is really playing the long game. It's
impossible to say at this point though.
How long do these sorts of investigations
On 10/03/2013 05:49 PM, Ahmed Hassan wrote:
One question is still remain unanswered. How did they locate
Silkroad server before locating him?
They had full image of the server before his arrest.
From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24371894 we know:
According to the court complaint
On Thu, 2013-10-03 at 11:45 -0600, aut...@anonymousbitcoinbook.com
wrote:
Hey all,
I'm writing a book about the use of Bitcoin and anonymity. A fair
portion of the book will be dedicated to teaching people how to most
safely use Tor to facilitate anonymity with Bitcoin. Are there any
On 10/03/2013 05:45 PM, aut...@anonymousbitcoinbook.com wrote:
Hey all,
I'm writing a book about the use of Bitcoin and anonymity. A fair
portion of the book will be dedicated to teaching people how to most
safely use Tor to facilitate anonymity with Bitcoin. Are there any
special tips
On Thu, 2013-10-03 at 20:58 +, mirimir wrote:
So they did have the server before they knew who he was. We also knew
that he was sold out by his VPN provider. Hopefully, the identity of
that VPN provider will come out soon.
I don't see evidence in your quote that implies that.
The section
Hello.
1.
Некоторое время назад, я заметил, что TOR слишком долго запускался -
до 10-15 минут.
При запуске были какие-то ошибки подключения(заблокировали не
скомпроментированные узлы через провайдеров?), TOR постоянно просил
поставить новую версию(но это не помогало) и т.п.
(где-то на форумах
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 03:25:23PM -0400, The Doctor wrote:
On 10/03/2013 01:49 PM, Ahmed Hassan wrote:
One question is still remain unanswered. How did they locate
Silkroad server before locating him? They had full image of the
server before his arrest.
Not sure. One hypothesis (and
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 08:12:25AM -0700, Gordon Morehouse wrote:
Here's my one teensy thing that bothers me, this bit of speculation
from Ars Technica:
The Tor Project, whose software enabled the Silk Road, noticed a
significant spike in usage in late August and was unable to explain
it.
On 10/03/2013 09:59 PM, Vladimir Teplouhov wrote:
Hello.
Hey, по английскиe, пожалуйста ;)
1.
Некоторое время назад, я заметил, что TOR слишком долго запускался -
до 10-15 минут.
При запуске были какие-то ошибки подключения(заблокировали не
скомпроментированные узлы через
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 08:58:57PM +, mirimir wrote:
So they did have the server before they knew who he was.
Careful there -- while I assume they didn't lie in their affidavit, it's
quite reasonable to assume that they investigated all sorts of things,
all sorts of ways, and then afterwards
Was the VPN located in the US? If not, then FBI doesn't have any
jurisdiction outside of US.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote:
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 08:58:57PM +, mirimir wrote:
So they did have the server before they knew who he was.
Careful there
On 10/03/2013 10:54 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote:
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 08:58:57PM +, mirimir wrote:
So they did have the server before they knew who he was.
Careful there -- while I assume they didn't lie in their affidavit, it's
quite reasonable to assume that they investigated all
On 10/03/2013 11:33 PM, shadowOps07 wrote:
Was the VPN located in the US? If not, then FBI doesn't have any
jurisdiction outside of US.
On p. 14 of UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf, there's reference to a
Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Roger Dingledine
Excuse me, I meant the server host, not VPN, in my reply.
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On Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Al Billings wrote:
Sure they do. The VPN was clearly not in the US and they used agreements to
access it (it is mentioned in the affidavit).
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Sure they do. The VPN was clearly not in the US and they used agreements to
access it (it is mentioned in the affidavit).
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http://makehacklearn.org
On Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 4:33 PM, shadowOps07 wrote:
Was the VPN located in the US? If not, then FBI doesn't have any
Yeah, but the country doesn't have the release the log to the fascist
police state just because Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty is in place.
They have the MORAL obligation to disregard the treaty. US is in no
position to demand obligations from other countries. Rather, MLAT is a
farce.
On Thu,
--On Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:54 PM -0400 Roger Dingledine
a...@mit.edu wrote:
that he was sold out by his VPN provider. Hopefully, the identity of
that VPN provider will come out soon.
Why? So everybody can abandon that VPN and move to a different one that
also responds to subpoenas
On 10/04/2013 12:44 AM, shadowOps07 wrote:
Yeah, but the country doesn't have the release the log to the fascist
police state just because Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty is in place.
They have the MORAL obligation to disregard the treaty. US is in no
position to demand obligations from other
I'm wondering if I got this right:
The NSA is supposed to be concerned only with 'national security' issues
and can't spy on 'ordinary Americans'. In practice the NSA spies on
everyone paying no attention to 'legal' restraints.
If the NSA happens to find the location of, say, a
On 13-10-03 09:13 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote:
--On Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:54 PM -0400 Roger Dingledine
a...@mit.edu wrote:
that he was sold out by his VPN provider. Hopefully, the identity of
that VPN provider will come out soon.
Why? So everybody can abandon that VPN and move to a
What kind of VPN provider did he use?
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:27 PM, mirimir miri...@riseup.net wrote:
On 10/04/2013 12:44 AM, shadowOps07 wrote:
Yeah, but the country doesn't have the release the log to the fascist
police state just because Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty is in place.
On 10/04/2013 01:54 AM, Juan Garofalo wrote:
I'm wondering if I got this right:
The NSA is supposed to be concerned only with 'national security'
issues and can't spy on 'ordinary Americans'. In practice the NSA spies
on everyone paying no attention to 'legal' restraints.
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 02:11:26AM +, mirimir wrote:
On 10/04/2013 01:54 AM, Juan Garofalo wrote:
I'm wondering if I got this right:
The NSA is supposed to be concerned only with 'national security'
issues and can't spy on 'ordinary Americans'. In practice the NSA spies
on
All government agency lies.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Juan Garofalo juan@gmail.com wrote:
I'm wondering if I got this right:
The NSA is supposed to be concerned only with 'national security'
issues and can't spy on 'ordinary Americans'. In practice the NSA spies
On 10/04/2013 02:22 AM, shadowOps07 wrote:
What kind of VPN provider did he use?
He had a dedicated exit IP, given that it was hard coded in his site for
admin access. That was also a risky move, in my opinion. He could have
lost the VPN account, and the IP. Better practice is using key-based
On 10/04/2013 02:21 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote:
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 02:11:26AM +, mirimir wrote:
On 10/04/2013 01:54 AM, Juan Garofalo wrote:
I'm wondering if I got this right:
The NSA is supposed to be concerned only with 'national security'
issues and can't spy on
--On Friday, October 04, 2013 2:11 AM + mirimir miri...@riseup.net
wrote:
On 10/04/2013 01:54 AM, Juan Garofalo wrote:
I'm wondering if I got this right:
The NSA is supposed to be concerned only with 'national security'
issues and can't spy on 'ordinary Americans'. In
krishna e bera:
If the FBI had to use a subpoena it means the VPN provider wasnt
cooperating, but was forced by legal means to hand over the info.
It would be unrealistic to expect any provider in any country to destroy
subscriber info after they had received a notice from a judge ordering
On 10/04/2013 03:50 AM, Juan Garofalo wrote:
--On Friday, October 04, 2013 2:11 AM + mirimir miri...@riseup.net
wrote:
On 10/04/2013 01:54 AM, Juan Garofalo wrote:
I'm wondering if I got this right:
The NSA is supposed to be concerned only with 'national security'
issues
--On Friday, October 04, 2013 3:22 AM + mirimir miri...@riseup.net
wrote:
On 10/04/2013 02:21 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote:
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 02:11:26AM +, mirimir wrote:
On 10/04/2013 01:54 AM, Juan Garofalo wrote:
I'm wondering if I got this right:
The NSA is
04.10.13, mirimirmiri...@riseup.net написал(а):
On 10/03/2013 09:59 PM, Vladimir Teplouhov wrote:
Hello.
Hey, по английскиe, пожалуйста ;)
Sorry, but it would be clearer if I write in Russian - you can
translate http://translate.google.com/ or http://translate.yandex.ru/
I understand the
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