Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-10 Thread Jason Long
I worked with email later and I want to know the bridge that Tor provide is trusted and secure? On Tue, 11/8/16, podmo <po...@sigaint.org> wrote: Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries. To: to

Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-08 Thread podmo
Jason Long writes: > How can I find a good list of secure Bridge? Go here for more information. https://www.torproject.org/docs/bridges#FindingMore Sounds like meek might work best for your scenario, so in that case you'd want to "Send an email to brid...@bridges.torproject.org with "get

Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-08 Thread Jonathan Marquardt
I think that I should rephrase myself a little so I don’t cause any confusion. "Undetectable" is perhaps an overstatement. Usage of bridges like meek are especially difficult to identify by just being a firewall/router admin sniffing bypassing traffic. But some adversaries (we know China does

Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-08 Thread Jason Long
How can I find a good list of secure Bridge? On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 1:38 PM, Jonathan Marquardt wrote: One thing should be clear: If one is not using a bridge, it is trivial for any network observer (University firewall admin, Iran ISP) to see if one is using

Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-08 Thread Jonathan Marquardt
One thing should be clear: If one is not using a bridge, it is trivial for any network observer (University firewall admin, Iran ISP) to see if one is using Tor. However, with the right bridge setup such a detection can ultimately be prevented. I guess meek is the best candidate for an

Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-07 Thread Jim
Seth David Schoen wrote: One thing that might be useful would be a way for Tor users to actively pick what jurisdictions (or fiber optic cables or Internet exchange points) they do or don't want their data to pass through, and have the Tor client respect those preferences. This is helpful both

Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-07 Thread Seth David Schoen
Jason Long writes: > To be honest, I guess that I must stop using Tor It is not secure.I can > remember that in torproject.org the Tor speaking about some peole that use > Tor. For example, reporters, Military soldiers and...But I guess all of them > are ads. Consider a soldier in a

Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-07 Thread Jason Long
To be honest, I guess that I must stop using Tor It is not secure.I can remember that in torproject.org the Tor speaking about some peole that use Tor. For example, reporters, Military soldiers and...But I guess all of them are ads. Consider a soldier in a country that want send a secret

Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-06 Thread Seth David Schoen
Jason Long writes: > Not from ISP!! It is so bad because ISPs are under > governments control. If an ISP can see I use Tor then it is a good evidence > in censorship countries.You said " If a government is running the bridge, it > will know where the users are who are using

Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-06 Thread Jason Long
Not from ISP!! It is so bad because ISPs are under governments control. If an ISP can see I use Tor then it is a good evidence in censorship countries.You said " If a government is running the bridge, it will  know where the users are who are using that particular bridge.",

Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-06 Thread Seth David Schoen
Jason Long writes: > You said the governments can see a user bandwidth usage and it is so bad > because they can understand a user use Tor for regular web surfing or use it > for upload files and... > You said governments can see users usages but not contents but how they can > find specific

Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-06 Thread Jason Long
?!! On Sat, 11/5/16, Seth David Schoen <sch...@eff.org> wrote: Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries. To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Date: Saturday, November 5, 2016, 11:36 PM Jason Long

Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-06 Thread Seth David Schoen
Jason Long writes: > Hello Tor Developers and administrator.The Tor goal is provide Secure web > surfing as free and Freedom but unfortunately some countries like Iran, > China, North Korea and... Launch Tor bridges for spying on users and sniff > their traffics and it is so bad and decrease

Re: [tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-06 Thread Jason Long
Any idea? On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 7:30 PM, Jason Long wrote: Hello Tor Developers and administrator.The Tor goal is provide Secure web surfing as free and Freedom but unfortunately some countries like Iran, China, North Korea and... Launch Tor bridges for

[tor-talk] Please Remove Tor bridge and... from Censorship countries.

2016-11-02 Thread Jason Long
Hello Tor Developers and administrator.The Tor goal is provide Secure web surfing as free and Freedom but unfortunately some countries like Iran, China, North Korea and... Launch Tor bridges for spying on users and sniff their traffics and it is so bad and decrease Tor users and security. If