Re: [tor-talk] TB download improvement

2012-10-16 Thread Greg Norcie
Hi, I did a Tor usability study recently, though admittedly with participants who were English speakers (though a large chunk were not US citizens and did not speak English as a first language). We termed a failure to DL the TBB as download clarity, and found it was the one of the least cited

Re: [tor-talk] TB download improvement

2012-10-16 Thread Outlaw
Andrew Lewman: Hmm, the large purple and orange 'Download tor' button on the index page was missed? No, but average user need to click on it, then choose language (btw the list is barely seen) and then click Download again. We have this already. When you click the big download button on the

Re: [tor-talk] TB download improvement

2012-10-16 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:55:02 -0400 Greg Norcie g...@norcie.com wrote: 1.) Include small windows, apple, and tux logos on the download link on the main tor page... these could serve as a symbolic cue that it is a download link. We had these in the past and people didn't recognize their own OS

Re: [tor-talk] TB download improvement

2012-10-16 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:12:43 +0200 (CEST) Outlaw out...@omail.pro wrote: I was talking about descriptions outside torproject.org for non-english-speaking people. Imagine blog post that describes benefits of Tor and a link to page that starts downloading right away (or after few seconds). And

Re: [tor-talk] TB download improvement

2012-10-16 Thread Greg Norcie
On 10/16/12 3:29 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:55:02 -0400 Greg Norcie g...@norcie.com wrote: 1.) Include small windows, apple, and tux logos on the download link on the main tor page... these could serve as a symbolic cue that it is a download link. We had these in the

Re: [tor-talk] TB download improvement

2012-10-15 Thread antispam06
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 21:33, Outlaw wrote: Hey there, Tor devs :) IMHO present torproject.org is very difficult for average internet user. For those who don`t know english well, it is almost impossible to find proper link. But how in the World are they going to know how to secure their

Re: [tor-talk] TB download improvement

2012-10-15 Thread somepony
It's not just ESL, it's the lack of an easy familiar format for communication, support, and dumb newbie questions. From an outsider perspective, this list is difficult to access and lacks appeal to a greenhorn like myself (it appears to be a hardcore dev talk from the description- you know

Re: [tor-talk] TB download improvement

2012-10-15 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:33:01 +0200 (CEST) Outlaw out...@omail.pro wrote: Hey there, Tor devs :) IMHO present torproject.org is very difficult for average internet user. For those who don`t know english well, it is almost impossible to find proper link. Hmm, the large purple and orange

Re: [tor-talk] TB download improvement

2012-10-15 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:53:32 +0100 Matt Joyce torad...@mttjocy.co.uk wrote: Agreed that having more accessibility to at least the key documents available in other languages would be a great addition however tor is an open source project and like all open source projects for anything to get

Re: [tor-talk] TB download improvement

2012-10-15 Thread Philipp Winter
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 07:25:01AM -0600, somepony wrote: Is there a reason there is not a board or forum for Tor, or that it doesn't come up on Google? I'm not talking Usenet or IRC, I'm talking something my mother-in-law can find, understand and use. There are several reasons for this.

[tor-talk] TB download improvement

2012-10-14 Thread Outlaw
Hey there, Tor devs :) IMHO present torproject.org is very difficult for average internet user. For those who don`t know english well, it is almost impossible to find proper link. I think it is the question of resources - to provide multilingual website up to date, which Tor team just doesn`t

Re: [tor-talk] TB download improvement

2012-10-14 Thread Matt Joyce
On 14/10/12 20:33, Outlaw wrote: Hey there, Tor devs :) IMHO present torproject.org is very difficult for average internet user. For those who don`t know english well, it is almost impossible to find proper link. I think it is the question of resources - to provide multilingual website up to