Re: [tosdr:3943] Re: ownership on youtube

[Renee Lloyd]

This is excessive.  Drafting an unclear license grant creates opportunities to 
overreach.  I think that this should be drafted more narrowly.  

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> On Aug 13, 2016, at 7:49 PM, matthewlane...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 at 3:14:37 AM UTC+12, Suzanne Azmayesh wrote:
>> Even when the user has left the service, Youtube can keep copies of the 
>> content that have been removed or deleted :
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> « For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your Content. 
>> 
>> You understand and agree, however, that YouTube may retain, but not display, 
>> distribute, or perform, server copies of your videos that have been removed 
>> or deleted. 
>> 
>> 
>> « The above licenses granted by you in user comments you submit are 
>> perpetual and irrevocable. »
> 
> This is good however so that means that if the copies are kept indefinitely - 
> does youtube gain full access to the ownership when you die or does that 
> ownership go towards your next of kin?
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Re: [tosdr:3986] Terms of Use for Mozilla Testpilot

[Renee Lloyd]

At the outset, we need to address the immediate issues of these terms.   They 
include several items that are problematic and serve to undermine any of the 
good that they intend to serve by their minimalism and clear language.   Those 
terms are Indemnification and Limitation of Liability which operate to hold the 
individual liable for broad potential liability and cost.   These terms serve  
to protect the corporation Mozilla and Mozilla’s “indemnified parties” (third 
parties) from ANY cost and liability.  This creates a profound imbalance of 
power and risk.  In addition it allows the corporation to provide terms that 
may on the face ‘seem’ consumer friendly but in reality if the company fails to 
adhere to those terms, they really will never incur the actual costs of the 
actions that they take in breach of the terms.   So basically, these two 
clauses render meaningful terms impotent.  
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> On Oct 16, 2016, at 12:19 AM, Chirag Ninave  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> The test pilot is a new initiative by Mozilla introduced recently. So it will 
> be good if you could show its TOS summary.
> 
> The link to its terms of use is: https://testpilot.firefox.com/terms 
> 
> 
> The points that I think are important are:
> 
> 2. Account: Test Pilot participants will no longer be required to have a 
> Firefox Account. 
> 
> 3. Privacy: The greatest thing you need to watch out for!
> 
> 5. Termination: We may suspend or terminate your access to Test Pilot at any 
> time for any reason..
> 
> 8. Disclaimer, Limitation of Liability
> 
> 11. Contact
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: [tosdr:4221] Can we talk about standardizing scores?

[Renee Lloyd]

This is a great idea!  I'm interested in working with you!  

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> On Aug 8, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Michael Stemle  wrote:
> 
> I know that this is my first message to the group, but I've been watching for 
> a while and I would like to jump in and help.
> 
> A key challenge that I see this group facing is that the backlog of sites to 
> score is mammoth. There is no way that this group will ever be able to keep 
> up with the changes and the scoring of TOS and Privacy Policies if it is 
> something which takes a long time to do. The backlog is unsustainable, and 
> because there's no way that the backlog can be chewed into, and so many 
> popular sites are not yet scored, it will be difficult for the public—and the 
> organizations themselves—to take scoring seriously.
> 
> Google has a "C." Google doesn't care. DuckDuckGo has an "A," and they only 
> care because they've made that a core part of their business.
> 
> I would like to help construct a proposal for a standardized scoring system. 
> This scoring system would focus not on independent clauses in the document, 
> but rather questions like: "can site X track you outside of your own site? 
> -20 points" or "does organization Y promise to disclose government requests 
> for information? +20 points." Something simple, which when aggregated could 
> output a score.
> 
> I would like to find two or three other people to work with in this endeavor, 
> the product of which would be a document outlining the process for measuring, 
> scoring, and preparing this proposal for a vote by contributors. Since 
> there's a lot to review, I think keeping the number of people down will help 
> us come to something that we can open to the wider group more quickly.
> 
> I would like this process to observe a December 1st deadline, so that we can 
> all review the document and members (of which I am not one yet) can vote. 
> During the process we would give a monthly update.
> 
> After this process, it might be useful to have a program which takes a 
> checklist of the criteria, runs it through a rules engine, and pops out a 
> score. This would make it so that people reviewing sites weren't affecting 
> the score directly, but instead were focusing first and foremost on the 
> agreed-upon criteria.
> 
> The goals of this process would be:
> A clear, transparent, and easy-to-understand set of scoring criteria that the 
> browser plugin could draw attention to
> Because of the standardized approach, the organizations being scored would 
> understand how to improve their score
> We would now have the ability to score sites consistently, and more quickly
> This process will foster a more trustworthy set of scores as it is repeatable 
> based on criteria
> No recommendations would be construed to have been agreed-upon by the group 
> until a vote affirmed the proposal
> I do hope that the group thinks that this is a worthwhile proposal, and I'm 
> happy to start working on this ASAP. If this is already an effort which is 
> underway, I would like to contribute. I looked but didn't find any.
> 
> 
> 
> Much thanks.
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