Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Changing My Server Setup Getting the best from Touch

2010-06-23 Thread Mnyb
badboygolf16v;557207 Wrote: Sorry, didn't equate the homeplugs with being equivalent to wired, my bad. Running cables to my Touch from my SBS location or the router is a no go. But from a homeplug would be OK. You could even go with some kind wifi AP where you conect the wire from the Touch

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2010-06-23 Thread ailidas
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Standalone with HDD Which File Format?

2010-06-23 Thread woodnut
Thanks. Does the file format FAT32 or NTFS make a difference to the Touch in terms of ease of access? I am tempted to rip the Flac files at 0 if this helps the Touch decode the Flacs more easily. I have read conflicting reports on this all over the web some say the decoding is nearly the same

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WD Elements 1TB - Any good with Touch?

2010-06-23 Thread PeterLosseSchoenveter
JohnSwenson;556851 Wrote: First off, is the drive getting its power from the USB bus or does it have its own power supply? Does turning sleep off altogether make the connection problems go away? Hi John, The drive has an external power supply I didn't tweak with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)

2010-06-23 Thread PeterLosseSchoenveter
I have a question: When I decide to stream flac-file's as pcm to my sb-touch am I losing soundquality due to the recodeprocess?? -- PeterLosseSchoenveter PeterLosseSchoenveter's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Powered Hub

2010-06-23 Thread Ferdie
Anyone? -- Ferdie Ferdie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79877 ___ Touch

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Standalone with HDD Which File Format?

2010-06-23 Thread garym
woodnut;557328 Wrote: Thanks. Does the file format FAT32 or NTFS make a difference to the Touch in terms of ease of access? I am tempted to rip the Flac files at 0 if this helps the Touch decode the Flacs more easily. I have read conflicting reports on this all over the web some say

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Changing My Server Setup Getting the best from Touch

2010-06-23 Thread spile
I run the same server as you under WHS and connect my Touch over wifi. I have absolutely no issues in terms of connectivity or reliability of streaming. My original plan was to use a network lead to connect the Touch to the router but the wifi worked so well I never bothered to do it. Would

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Powered Hub

2010-06-23 Thread garym
I think the common wisdom here is that it is best to power external USB drives from a source other than the TOUCH itself. So yes, a hub might be useful. Not sure that is causing your problem, but a good idea to use hub nonetheless. I have seen other posts indicating that the thumbs on mp3 is a

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch using 36 watts, on or off

2010-06-23 Thread rhswain
False alarm. Turns out that my Kill-A-Watt is flawed. When plugged in, but bearing no load (nothing plugged into it) it reads 33 watts. If you accept 33 as its zero, getting 36 is reasonable when the Touch is plugged into it. (They don't have zero calibration knobs on these new fangled

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)

2010-06-23 Thread Teus de Jong
PeterLosseSchoenveter;557331 Wrote: I have a question: When I decide to stream flac-file's as pcm to my sb-touch am I losing soundquality due to the recodeprocess?? No. There is no recoding only decoding. When streaming FLAC to the Touch, the decoding takes place in the Touch, when

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Standalone with HDD Which File Format?

2010-06-23 Thread woodnut
Thanks again for those recommendations. The SheevaPlug looks very interesting and not too expesnive either. Maybe one for the future. Yes I did take the jitter comments with a pinch of salt but was interested in hearing any further thoughts on compression levels and how this affects decoding.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)

2010-06-23 Thread PeterLosseSchoenveter
Teus de Jong;557351 Wrote: No. There is no recoding only decoding. When streaming FLAC to the Touch, the decoding takes place in the Touch, when streaming PCM it takes place on the server. Some people think the latter leads to better sound quality. Teus PS. Walking with loose shoelaces

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Standalone with HDD Which File Format?

2010-06-23 Thread iPhone
woodnut;557358 Wrote: Thanks again for those recommendations. The SheevaPlug looks very interesting and not too expesnive either. Maybe one for the future. Yes I did take the jitter comments with a pinch of salt but was interested in hearing any further thoughts on compression

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)

2010-06-23 Thread Teus de Jong
PeterLosseSchoenveter;557365 Wrote: Thanks Teus for your reply. But isn't there any conversion then? Is flac 'just' compressed pcm? The right answer as far as I know is yes. From the official FLAC site: 'The encoding of audio (PCM) data incurs no loss of information, and the decoded audio is

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch using 36 watts, on or off

2010-06-23 Thread iPhone
rhswain;557349 Wrote: False alarm. Turns out that my Kill-A-Watt is flawed. When plugged in, but bearing no load (nothing plugged into it) it reads 33 watts. If you accept 33 as its zero, getting 36 is reasonable when the Touch is plugged into it. (They don't have zero calibration

[SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread chzhzhang
Well the only plus I am going to say here is the Squeezebox touch server (in the touch itself) indeed is a capable unix system and comes with many (if not all) standard unix features, although I think the credit goes to unix and open source communities, not logitech. I have had frustrating

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Touch is loosing time

2010-06-23 Thread R Johnson
I'm running (almost) standalone. My Touch is about 4 minutes slow at the moment. After many tries, I managed to get about an 8% quality wireless connection to a friend's router to get the clock in the first place. So I'm reluctant to reboot, but it's good to know what I need to do to get the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread iPhone
Sounds like you might have no room for Touch to work. The Touch needs open drive space to write to the drive. Personally, I would have left the drive as one large 1.5TB NTFS or ext3 partition. Do you have a small USB drive or Stick that you can use to test the Touch? Remember it is going to take

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread Teus de Jong
I have the same problem as the OP and I don't think drive space is the problem (in my case I'm even sure of that). As I already said in two other threads: there's something wrong with the artwork scanning. I'm almost sure there will be an out of memory message during artwork scanning in the log.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Touch is loosing time

2010-06-23 Thread JohnSwenson
I ran some tests last night to get a baseline as to how the Touch currently behaves. I put together a system with a Touch, vortexbox and a laptop, all hardwired to a switch without an internet connection. I put static IPs on everything. With the Touch looking at the vortexbox the Touch will

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread JohnSwenson
Teus de Jong;557412 Wrote: I have already deleted a lot of artwork, but it keeps crashing. John Svensson promised me to look how to set debugging for artwork scanning, so I'm waiting for that. Teus I've been working on this. I have yet to find a way to get the details of the artwork scan

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Powered Hub

2010-06-23 Thread JohnSwenson
I would certainly try the powered hub. It may fix the problem. It may not. It depends on whats causing the problem in the first place. There are some drives that seem to be right on the edge power consumption wise and certain operations push them over the edge and they loose connection. External

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WD Elements 1TB - Any good with Touch?

2010-06-23 Thread JohnSwenson
Hi Peter, this is an important case, its not power related or sleep setting related. These are the ones that we have no clue as to what is going. Its very difficult to try and come up with a fix if nobody knows whats causing the problem. Did you look at the log files? There might be important

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread Teus de Jong
Thanks John, there's no need to hurry. However, it would be nice to find what's going wrong in the artwork scan. Teus -- Teus de Jong Teus de Jong's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15415 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread chzhzhang
iPhone;557407 Wrote: Sounds like you might have no room for Touch to work. The Touch needs open drive space to write to the drive. Personally, I would have left the drive as one large 1.5TB NTFS or ext3 partition. Do you have a small USB drive or Stick that you can use to test the Touch?

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread JJZolx
JohnSwenson;557429 Wrote: I've been working on this. I have yet to find a way to get the details of the artwork scan to show up in the log file. Its easy on the external SBS, but TinySBS doesn't seem to want to let that information show up in the log file. Since its the same code there has

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread chzhzhang
Teus de Jong;557412 Wrote: I have the same problem as the OP and I don't think drive space is the problem (in my case I'm even sure of that). As I already said in two other threads: there's something wrong with the artwork scanning. I'm almost sure there will be an out of memory message

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread iPhone
chzhzhang;557445 Wrote: How do you install the beta version of software? You have to have an SBS PC/Server and download the 7.6 Beta to run on it. Once you have done that, the Touch will ask to update the firmware. Now the Touch has a higher level of firmware which is the current Beta. If you

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread Teus de Jong
iPhone;557460 Wrote: ... To those thinking its crashing on album art scan, what is the highest res art on the drive? My largest is 600 by 600 and I am not seeing scan issues with the Touch firmware that is on the Touch from using the Beta SBS 7.6 software on my Beta Server. 1. I don't

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread iPhone
Teus de Jong;557470 Wrote: 1. I don't _think_ it is crashing on the artwork scan, I _know_ it is crashing during the artwork scan because I get an out of memory error every time the artwork scan is started. 2. I have tried to delete (or make smaller) all artwork larger than 500 x 500 (in

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread Teus de Jong
iPhone;557471 Wrote: What does your tagging look like? On the artwork, is it embedded in each song or album.jpg in each file folder? I have a cover.jpg in each folder. In a lot of folders this cover is also embedded in the flac files (my library contains only flacs). Like I said, this started

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread JJZolx
Teus de Jong;557470 Wrote: 1. I don't _think_ it is crashing on the artwork scan, I _know_ it is crashing during the artwork scan because I get an out of memory error every time the artwork scan is started. 2. I have tried to delete (or make smaller) all artwork larger than 500 x 500 (in

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread JJZolx
Teus de Jong;557472 Wrote: I have a cover.jpg in each folder. In a lot of folders this cover is also embedded in the flac files (my library contains only flacs). Like I said, this started as an exact copy of my main library which functions perfectly on my vortexbox sever. I have tried to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread Teus de Jong
Thank you for your suggestions Jim. I have reasons to embed the art on my main server, but these are invalid for the Touch attached USB drive. As soon as I have got time I will delete the embedded images from the flac files and see if this helps. I already followed your second suggestion: all

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?

2010-06-23 Thread Turnandcough
JohnSwenson;543334 Wrote: ...It worked fine on the SB3. For the SB3 I just ran a pigtail cable (the rolled up twisted pair IDC cable) through one of the holes after I took out the connector. Something similar could be done with the Touch... Hi John, I've been wanting to tap into the I2S

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Touch is loosing time

2010-06-23 Thread peterw
JohnSwenson;557427 Wrote: So what needs to be done to make things better? It seems that when running TinySBS and an internet connection is available the Touch should be updating its system time from an externat time server at least once a day. Since MySB is also an ntp server there should

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread Teus de Jong
Thanks for your suggestion again Jim, it solved my problem. I did not remove the embedded art (maybe I will, but just to test I didn't), but I sorted on %coversize% in Mp3Tag. This made it clear that I overlooked one (!) album with very large embedded art ( 300 Kb, about 2100 x 2100 pixels).

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?

2010-06-23 Thread JohnSwenson
I have some very crude pictures of it somewhere. I'll see if I can find them and get them up on my web site. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB drive + SB Touch, any chance of luck?

2010-06-23 Thread Michael Herger
I've been working on this. Is there a bug report for this? Andy's insight might be helpful. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Touch is loosing time

2010-06-23 Thread Michael Herger
Add code to SBS (not Squeezeplay!) so that if SBS is running on Touch (i.e. if it is TinySC) *and* it appears that msntp is not in use (see if the drift file has been accessed recently?), it will periodically use async HTTP requests to MySB to get the date update the clock on Touch. This

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Touch is loosing time

2010-06-23 Thread indigo
mherger;557527 Wrote: This should already be happening: communication with mysb.com includes a time stamp. When this gets out of sync ( 15s) the embedded server should set the device's clock (see Slim::Utils::OS::SqueezeOS). If this doesn't work, then we need to fix this

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Touch is loosing time

2010-06-23 Thread Michael Herger
What is needed is an automated function to connect to mysb.com to update the clock at least daily. That's exactly what I'm saying there already is. If it doesn't work, we need to investigate why it doesn't. Did you check your Touch's server.log file (enable file sharing in settings/Advanced