[Touch-packages] [Bug 1783987] Re: German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

[frank]

Had the same issue in Ubuntu 20.04. I plugged in a keyboard with a
Numlock key and switch that off. That fixed it for me.

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Title:
  German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

Status in xkeyboard-config:
  Unknown
Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When trying Xubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver from a USB Stick, I am offered
  the Neo2 Keyboard Layout, but it does not work. What I get is
  apparently Neo2 Mod4, but not Mod 1, as it should be.

  I wonder if Neo2 does work if I install 18.04 properly?

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1783987] Re: German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

[Martin Beeger]

Deactivating numlock before activting neo2 also fixed this issue for me.

So it is an interference between those two.

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Title:
  German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

Status in xkeyboard-config:
  Unknown
Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When trying Xubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver from a USB Stick, I am offered
  the Neo2 Keyboard Layout, but it does not work. What I get is
  apparently Neo2 Mod4, but not Mod 1, as it should be.

  I wonder if Neo2 does work if I install 18.04 properly?

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1783987] Re: German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

[Benjamin Fischer]

In my case, what helped was to remove package `numlockx` with `sudo apt-
get purge numlockx`.

This package `numlockx` was integrated into Xubuntu's startup with
version 18.04 (see https://wiki.xubuntu.org/releases/18.04/release-
notes#numlock). It always turns on Num Lock on startup, which is related
to the Neo keyboard layout behaving weirdly as others mentioned above.

With that I can use 2 keyboard layouts. I hope this helps others.

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Title:
  German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

Status in xkeyboard-config:
  Unknown
Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When trying Xubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver from a USB Stick, I am offered
  the Neo2 Keyboard Layout, but it does not work. What I get is
  apparently Neo2 Mod4, but not Mod 1, as it should be.

  I wonder if Neo2 does work if I install 18.04 properly?

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1783987] Re: German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

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Title:
  German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

Status in xkeyboard-config:
  Unknown
Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When trying Xubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver from a USB Stick, I am offered
  the Neo2 Keyboard Layout, but it does not work. What I get is
  apparently Neo2 Mod4, but not Mod 1, as it should be.

  I wonder if Neo2 does work if I install 18.04 properly?

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1783987] Re: German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

[Krino Hoogestraat]

Fine, thanks for that.

As I use Neo 2 exclusively – no other keyboard layouts – there should be
no further problems once the choice has been made.

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Title:
  German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

Status in xkeyboard-config:
  Confirmed
Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When trying Xubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver from a USB Stick, I am offered
  the Neo2 Keyboard Layout, but it does not work. What I get is
  apparently Neo2 Mod4, but not Mod 1, as it should be.

  I wonder if Neo2 does work if I install 18.04 properly?

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1783987] Re: German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

There is no reason to expect anything else. A live session and a fully
installed system should behave identically in this respect. My own
testing was on a fully installed Ubuntu 18.04.

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Title:
  German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

Status in xkeyboard-config:
  Confirmed
Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When trying Xubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver from a USB Stick, I am offered
  the Neo2 Keyboard Layout, but it does not work. What I get is
  apparently Neo2 Mod4, but not Mod 1, as it should be.

  I wonder if Neo2 does work if I install 18.04 properly?

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1783987] Re: German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

[Krino Hoogestraat]

Gunnar:
Can you please make sure that NumLock is turned off when switching to Neo 2 and 
let us know if that helps.

***

I tried that, and as you predicted, with NumLock turned off, the Neo 2
keyboard behaves normally.

Does that mean I can go ahead and install 18.04, and everything will be
fine?

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Title:
  German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

Status in xkeyboard-config:
  Confirmed
Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  When trying Xubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver from a USB Stick, I am offered
  the Neo2 Keyboard Layout, but it does not work. What I get is
  apparently Neo2 Mod4, but not Mod 1, as it should be.

  I wonder if Neo2 does work if I install 18.04 properly?

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1783987] Re: German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

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On 2016-07-21T15:10:30+00:00 Frdsktp wrote:

I'm using the keyboard layout de-neo (German Neo2). When starting a x11
graphical application in a xwayland session, I see this error message
printed to console or syslog:


The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> Error:Key  added to map for multiple modifiers
>   Using Lock, ignoring Shift.
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server


When starting wayland graphical applications (using Gtk+ 3.20) I get this 
message:


xkbcommon: ERROR: Key "" added to modifier map for multiple modifiers; 
Using Lock, ignoring Shift


When starting a x11 session I get this message:


The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> Warning:  Multiple interpretations of "Caps_Lock+AnyOfOrNone(all)"
>   Using last definition for duplicate fields
> Warning:  Multiple interpretations of "Shift_L+AnyOfOrNone(all)"
>   Using last definition for duplicate fields
> Error:Key  added to map for multiple modifiers
>   Using Mod2, ignoring Mod4.
> Error:Key  added to map for multiple modifiers
>   Using Mod3, ignoring Mod5.
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server


So it looks like this layout is broken. I have no idea what. Can you please 
give me a hint on the reason why this happens?


Upstream is at https://wiki.neo-layout.org/browser#linux/X/rules, but they 
don't seem to fix these warnings/errors: https://wiki.neo-layout.org/ticket/408

I'm running Fedora 24 with
xkeyboard-config-2.17-2.fc24.noarch
libxkbcommon-0.6.1-1.fc24.x86_64

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On 2016-07-21T17:27:51+00:00 Ran Benita wrote:

I can help debug the wayland error message.

What desktop environment are you using?

Assuming you are using gnome shell, which layouts did you choose
exactly, and in what order? (You can see in the "Region & Language"
settings).

Did you change any settings in the "Tweak Tool" under "Typing"?

In X11 session, can you show the output of `setxkbmap -print`?

BTW, the keymap usually works fine even with such errors, so it is not
necessarily broken. Does it actually not work for you?

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On 2016-07-21T18:45:39+00:00 Wettstae wrote:

> Warning:  Multiple interpretations of "Caps_Lock+AnyOfOrNone(all)"
>   Using last definition for duplicate fields

> Warning:  Multiple interpretations of "Shift_L+AnyOfOrNone(all)"
>   Using last definition for duplicate fields

The latter comes from "assign_shift_left_action" in compat/misc, see the
comment there why it is required.

I think the proper way to get rid of this warning would be to specify
the action associated to a keysym directly, not involving any "Any"
patters in the compat, that is, instead of

interpret Any+Lock {
action= LockMods(modifiers=Lock);
};

interpret Any + Any {
action= SetMods(modifiers=modMapMods);
};

(in compat/basic), use

interpret Caps_Lock {
action= LockMods(modifiers=Lock);
};

interpret Shift_L {
action= SetMods(modifiers=Shift);
};
interpret Shift_R {
action= SetMods(modifiers=Shift);
};

This might break some xmodmap setups of those very conservative user
still using xmodmap...

> Error:Key  added to map for multiple modifiers
>   Using Mod2, ignoring Mod4.
> Error:Key  added to map for multiple modifiers
>   Using Mod3, ignoring Mod5.

The former comes from "modifier_mapping" in symbols/level5, the latter
from "lock" in the same file, or something similar.  The purpose is
associate the virtual modifiers LevelFive and NumLock to a real
modifier, and this is done using keycodes HYPR and MDSW which are known
not to be produced by hardware.

A proper fix would be not to use virtual modifiers LevelFive and NumLock
(and LevelThree and AltGr) at all, and use real modifiers directly.
This would avoid the need of such hacks as the one in symbols/level5,
without any disadvantage.

However, the error messages state that the the modifiers are set up as
desired.  From the practical perspective, therefore, there is no
pressing need for a change.

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1783987] Re: German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

I jumped at conclusions; sorry for that.

I too see the issue you mention. However, I found an upstream bug
report, and one of the ideas mentioned there was to disable NumLock.
Once I had done so, the "German (Neo 2)" layout seemed to behave as
expected.

Can you please make sure that NumLock is turned off when switching to
Neo 2 and let us know if that helps.

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Title:
  German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

Status in xkeyboard-config:
  Unknown
Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  When trying Xubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver from a USB Stick, I am offered
  the Neo2 Keyboard Layout, but it does not work. What I get is
  apparently Neo2 Mod4, but not Mod 1, as it should be.

  I wonder if Neo2 does work if I install 18.04 properly?

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1783987] Re: German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

[Krino Hoogestraat]

Thanks Gunnar :-)

I don't think my report was invalid. I've been using Neo 2 for many
years, so I know what it looks like when it works. So here's what
happens in some more detail:

1. I insert a USB Stick with xubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso into my computer.
2. I start the computer and, by pressing F10, use the USB as my booting device 
(live system).
3. I select Language Deutsch.
4. I select »Ubuntu ausprobieren« (try Ubuntu).
5. In the keyboard menu, I change from »Deutsch qwertz« to »Deutsch Neo 2«.
>From here, the keyboard should respond in the Neo manner, meaning that asdf 
>yields uiae, jklö yields nrtd, etc. At least that's what it does when using 
>16.04.
6. I start Mousepad to test the keyboard layout. So jklö should yield nrtd, but 
in actual fact what I get is ›456,‹. Which is Neo 2 to be sure, however it's 
not Mod1, but Mod4.

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Title:
  German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid

Bug description:
  When trying Xubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver from a USB Stick, I am offered
  the Neo2 Keyboard Layout, but it does not work. What I get is
  apparently Neo2 Mod4, but not Mod 1, as it should be.

  I wonder if Neo2 does work if I install 18.04 properly?

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1783987] Re: German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

I think Neo 2 is it, but it's a complex keyboard layout. There are some
hints in the file

/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/de

If you need help to understand how it's supposed to be used, please use
one of the support resources, e.g. .

There does not seem to be a bug here, so closing.

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Title:
  German Neo2 Problem with Xubuntu 18.04 (try out mode)

Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid

Bug description:
  When trying Xubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver from a USB Stick, I am offered
  the Neo2 Keyboard Layout, but it does not work. What I get is
  apparently Neo2 Mod4, but not Mod 1, as it should be.

  I wonder if Neo2 does work if I install 18.04 properly?

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