Re: [Translators-l] Ready for early translation: Tech News #49 (2016)

2016-12-05 Thread Johan Jönsson 
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Johan Jönsson  wrote:
> The latest tech newsletter is ready for early translation:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2016/49
>
> Direct translation link:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=page-Tech%2FNews%2F2016%2F49=page

Thank you all for your help! It is deeply appreciated. The newsletter
has now been delivered (in 18 languages) to subscribers across wikis.

(One item was postponed, as the team had to wait with deploying it the service.)

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Re: [Translators-l] Ready for early translation: Tech News #49 (2016)

2016-12-05 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz 

Ok, thank you for the exhaustiveness of the answer.


Le 05/12/2016 à 11:00, Johan Jönsson a écrit :

Sure. I'll take this on the list rather than as a private reply, as I
imagine it's a relevant reminder for everyone who translated Tech
News.

There's no automatic deploy window. I (or someone else, normally
User:Trizek or User:Quiddity if I'm unavailable for some reason) go
through this process:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/Manual#Distribution – which
means it's not done exactly at the same time every week, but rather
when I (or whoever is distributing it) have time to sit down and take
care of it. As promised in the email I send out on Thursdays, I never
distribute Tech News before Monday afternoon UTC. I have a list of
deadlines here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/For_contributors#The_deadlines

The Monday 15:00 UTC (Monday 14:00 UTC during daylight saving time)
deadline is when I solemnly promise all Tech News translators that
their translations will be included in the newsletter – Tech News is
never distributed to the wikis earlier than that. In reality, it will
usually be a few hours later, and occasionally closer to midnight UTC
if I have a very busy day and there's something I urgently need to
take care of (but I normally try to avoid that, for my own sake if
nothing else).

I tend to remove the deadline template the last thing I do before
distributing Tech News
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tech/News/2016/48=16108009=16103780).
If it's still there and you haven't seen the weekly thank you email on
this list, the newsletter shouldn't have been distributed yet.

I should probably incorporate at least the link to the deadlines in
the weekly announcement telling you there's a new issue ready for
translation. Thank you for asking this question.

//Johan Jönsson
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On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:31 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz
 wrote:

You're welcome. Also I just finished the Esperanto translation, but I don't
know if there is a automatic deploy window by bots that I might have missed.
Could you provide some hints on how it's treated?


Le 05/12/2016 à 10:12, Johan Jönsson a écrit :

Hi Mathieu,

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into it. (:

//Johan Jönsson
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On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:08 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz
 wrote:

Hi,

I think you might use some combination of tvar and magicwords or templates
for this kind of recurrent messages:

The [[$version|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and
MediaWiki.org from 6 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some
Wikipedias from 7 December. It will be on all wikis from 8 December
([[$calendar|calendar]]).

Clearly you just have date which will change, and those date and their
locale representation could be embedded in a tvar, if I'm not too
optimistic.

Thus the message would allways appear the same for translators, make a 100%
match with previous translations, and so make translation a little bit
faster and easier. :)


Le 02/12/2016 à 18:03, Johan Jönsson a écrit :

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Johan Jönsson 
wrote:

The latest tech newsletter is ready for early translation:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2016/49

Direct translation link:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=page-Tech%2FNews%2F2016%2F49=page

The text of the newsletter is now final. One new item has been added.
There won't be any more changes; you can translate safely.

Thank you, and have a good weekend!

//Johan Jönsson
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Re: [Translators-l] Ready for early translation: Tech News #49 (2016)

2016-12-05 Thread Johan Jönsson 
Sure. I'll take this on the list rather than as a private reply, as I
imagine it's a relevant reminder for everyone who translated Tech
News.

There's no automatic deploy window. I (or someone else, normally
User:Trizek or User:Quiddity if I'm unavailable for some reason) go
through this process:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/Manual#Distribution – which
means it's not done exactly at the same time every week, but rather
when I (or whoever is distributing it) have time to sit down and take
care of it. As promised in the email I send out on Thursdays, I never
distribute Tech News before Monday afternoon UTC. I have a list of
deadlines here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/For_contributors#The_deadlines

The Monday 15:00 UTC (Monday 14:00 UTC during daylight saving time)
deadline is when I solemnly promise all Tech News translators that
their translations will be included in the newsletter – Tech News is
never distributed to the wikis earlier than that. In reality, it will
usually be a few hours later, and occasionally closer to midnight UTC
if I have a very busy day and there's something I urgently need to
take care of (but I normally try to avoid that, for my own sake if
nothing else).

I tend to remove the deadline template the last thing I do before
distributing Tech News
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tech/News/2016/48=16108009=16103780).
If it's still there and you haven't seen the weekly thank you email on
this list, the newsletter shouldn't have been distributed yet.

I should probably incorporate at least the link to the deadlines in
the weekly announcement telling you there's a new issue ready for
translation. Thank you for asking this question.

//Johan Jönsson
--


On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:31 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz
 wrote:
> You're welcome. Also I just finished the Esperanto translation, but I don't
> know if there is a automatic deploy window by bots that I might have missed.
> Could you provide some hints on how it's treated?
>
>
> Le 05/12/2016 à 10:12, Johan Jönsson a écrit :
>
> Hi Mathieu,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into it. (:
>
> //Johan Jönsson
> --
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:08 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz
>  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I think you might use some combination of tvar and magicwords or templates
> for this kind of recurrent messages:
>
> The [[$version|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and
> MediaWiki.org from 6 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some
> Wikipedias from 7 December. It will be on all wikis from 8 December
> ([[$calendar|calendar]]).
>
> Clearly you just have date which will change, and those date and their
> locale representation could be embedded in a tvar, if I'm not too
> optimistic.
>
> Thus the message would allways appear the same for translators, make a 100%
> match with previous translations, and so make translation a little bit
> faster and easier. :)
>
>
> Le 02/12/2016 à 18:03, Johan Jönsson a écrit :
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Johan Jönsson 
> wrote:
>
> The latest tech newsletter is ready for early translation:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2016/49
>
> Direct translation link:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=page-Tech%2FNews%2F2016%2F49=page
>
> The text of the newsletter is now final. One new item has been added.
> There won't be any more changes; you can translate safely.
>
> Thank you, and have a good weekend!
>
> //Johan Jönsson
> --
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Re: [Translators-l] Ready for early translation: Tech News #49 (2016)

2016-12-05 Thread Johan Jönsson 
Hi Mathieu,

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into it. (:

//Johan Jönsson
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On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:08 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think you might use some combination of tvar and magicwords or templates
> for this kind of recurrent messages:
>
> The [[$version|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and
> MediaWiki.org from 6 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some
> Wikipedias from 7 December. It will be on all wikis from 8 December
> ([[$calendar|calendar]]).
>
> Clearly you just have date which will change, and those date and their
> locale representation could be embedded in a tvar, if I'm not too
> optimistic.
>
> Thus the message would allways appear the same for translators, make a 100%
> match with previous translations, and so make translation a little bit
> faster and easier. :)
>
>
> Le 02/12/2016 à 18:03, Johan Jönsson a écrit :
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Johan Jönsson 
> wrote:
>
> The latest tech newsletter is ready for early translation:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2016/49
>
> Direct translation link:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=page-Tech%2FNews%2F2016%2F49=page
>
> The text of the newsletter is now final. One new item has been added.
> There won't be any more changes; you can translate safely.
>
> Thank you, and have a good weekend!
>
> //Johan Jönsson
> --
>
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Re: [Translators-l] Ready for early translation: Tech News #49 (2016)

2016-12-05 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz 

Hi,

I think you might use some combination of tvar and magicwords or 
templates for this kind of recurrent messages:


   The [[$version|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and
   MediaWiki.org from 6 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and
   some Wikipedias from 7 December. It will be on all wikis from 8
   December ([[$calendar|calendar]]).

Clearly you just have date which will change, and those date and their 
locale representation could be embedded in a tvar, if I'm not too 
optimistic.


Thus the message would allways appear the same for translators, make a 
100% match with previous translations, and so make translation a little 
bit faster and easier. :)



Le 02/12/2016 à 18:03, Johan Jönsson a écrit :

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Johan Jönsson  wrote:

The latest tech newsletter is ready for early translation:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2016/49

Direct translation link:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=page-Tech%2FNews%2F2016%2F49=page

The text of the newsletter is now final. One new item has been added.
There won't be any more changes; you can translate safely.

Thank you, and have a good weekend!

//Johan Jönsson
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Re: [Translators-l] Ready for early translation: Tech News #49 (2016)

2016-12-02 Thread Johan Jönsson 
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Johan Jönsson  wrote:
> The latest tech newsletter is ready for early translation:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2016/49
>
> Direct translation link:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=page-Tech%2FNews%2F2016%2F49=page

The text of the newsletter is now final. One new item has been added.
There won't be any more changes; you can translate safely.

Thank you, and have a good weekend!

//Johan Jönsson
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[Translators-l] Ready for early translation: Tech News #49 (2016)

2016-12-01 Thread Johan Jönsson 
The latest tech newsletter is ready for early translation:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2016/49

Direct translation link:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=page-Tech%2FNews%2F2016%2F49=page

I'm planning to send the newsletter on Monday afternoon (UTC), i.e.
Monday morning PT. The existing translations will be posted on the
wikis in that language.

There may be a few more edits by Friday, but the existing content
should generally remain fairly stable. I will let you know on Friday
in any case.

Let me know if you have any questions, comments or concerns. As
always, I appreciate your help and feedback.

//Johan Jönsson
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