Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu Tweak project is now dead. What now?

2012-10-20 Thread tegskywalker
Look at the timing of my last post. I was in the process of writing it on a cell phone during your processing of the post about a fork in progress. Chill out bro.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help to remove Ubuntu, so I can put trisquel

2012-10-20 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Hello forest, great idea! If you open a terminal window and input mount what is the output? To see if there is a separate home partition.

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU and Linux

2012-10-20 Thread mikko . viinamaki
A similar and related discussion is whether to talk about free software or open source. Many people use the two as synonyms but that's not accurate. If one knows his software history, he will know that open source was but a marketing campaign for free software, started by Eric Raymond and

Re: [Trisquel-users] H-node

2012-10-20 Thread chris
'm no fan of NVIDIA as they have not been good to GNU/Linux users. They cause all sorts of trouble. The reason older cards have support with the free driver is because of reverse engineering. The 9500GT is the best supported card using the free driver. It's good enough to get into the

Re: [Trisquel-users] H-node

2012-10-20 Thread robb
Hi everyone, I've been learning a lot about Trisquel lately, mostly because of h-node and what a great resource it is. I've actually been working the past few days on a crazy idea to solve the problem that you already brought up: We shouldn't need a different database for each and every

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stability

2012-10-20 Thread viniciussm
Still looks the same. What was it supposed to show now?

Re: [Trisquel-users] H-node

2012-10-20 Thread chris
If I understand what you are trying to do this is not a solution. Merging the info does not solve the problem.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu Tweak project is now dead. What now?

2012-10-20 Thread alonivtsan
Ubuntu Tweak is really useful - if I remember correctly (I haven't used it in years) it makes removing old kernels and PPAs possible without using the terminal so new users do not need to see multiple kernels whenever the update includes a new kernel and they can easily purge PPAs that they

Re: [Trisquel-users] H-node

2012-10-20 Thread chris
No. I'm actually surprised it hasn't been done by somebody though. I'm not against the database's existence. It has its uses. I just don't think we should be pointing or giving people the impression that this is how you buy hardware for GNU/Linux. It's just not an answer for the majority. A

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stability

2012-10-20 Thread mikko . viinamaki
For me it shows nothing, just the usual reboot/restart messages.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu Tweak project is now dead. What now?

2012-10-20 Thread aliasbody
http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/ubuntu-tweak-development-stopped.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] gnome

2012-10-20 Thread aliasbody
Totally agree with you :D No... seriously what is this ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stability

2012-10-20 Thread onpon4
No instability here. I have gotten this weird thing where the graphics are all screwed up and there's an odd error message that repeats over and over when turning off the computer rather than the normal wallpaper image, but I'm pretty sure both of these are because of of the integrated

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-20 Thread freemind
Sorry but comparing the two can actually be fair. Linux Mint develops many more things than Trisquel, that's why they need more developers and more support. They even have their own applications and now their own Desktop Environment (Cinnamon), besides they support about 5 flavours of Linux

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU and Linux

2012-10-20 Thread nospamhere
I prefer the term GNU System' because it most accurately describes what I have. I've been doing a bit of a license audit on my GNU system and this is what I have found: 85.5% GPL licensed (GPLv1-3 LGPL 2-3) 17.82% MIT (X Windows System mostly) 6% BSD (vixie-cron, poppler-data, libogg,

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU and Linux

2012-10-20 Thread onpon4
It's not about the license. GNU is an operating system and a perfectly good name for what we call GNU/Linux. But we call it GNU/Linux because GNU is unrecognized by a lot of people, and also because it would be ungentlemanly of the GNU project ask people to not recognize Linux at all in

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU and Linux

2012-10-20 Thread jason
freeme said: I prefer the term GNU System You may want to consider this before calling the whole thing GNU: http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#justgnu

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stability

2012-10-20 Thread jason
Andrew said: I might try the latest Linux-libre I have an APT repository to make that easy: http://jxself.org/linux-libre/ Follow the instructions, install either linux-libre32 or linux-libre64 and then restart.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser and Search Engines

2012-10-20 Thread onpon4
DuckDuckGo doesn't require the Javascript. It just uses it for some extras (the only one I've noticed is that weird selection thing on the searches, but there might be something else, too). If you use LibreJS, it links you to a search that doesn't need Javascript. Google is the same, it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser and Search Engines

2012-10-20 Thread aliasbody
LibreJS only talks about those pieces of code from the .js file :

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU and Linux

2012-10-20 Thread pascal
But why i have to named a distribution GNU/? if it doesn't care freedom and it have no (or few) gnu programs. To people, i say always GNU/Linux and revise when people say just Linux. But how can i say GNU/Linux to a distribution who doesn't respect freedom ? GNU = freedom. Linux = (what ? -

Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser and Search Engines

2012-10-20 Thread chris
OK So to sum this up: The one has an alternate search that does not require non-free javascript. Google simply doesn't cause a problem when you don't use the non-free javascript.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-20 Thread chris
This is likely because he had more time in the early years to work on these releases. He's not going to have that time again. Unlike early on there were probably other people contributing to his existence (government) and parents. Now he's got to work and the releases are less timely.

Re: [Trisquel-users] gnome

2012-10-20 Thread jbar
Maybe spam, don't you think so?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser and Search Engines

2012-10-20 Thread aliasbody
Well actually Google is not problem free. If we use LibreJS to remove the non-free code then we will have to use the https://encrypted.google.com (icecat redirect us and don't let you go to the www.google.com normal webpage), and you can't see any image on it. On youtube you can't see the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-20 Thread freemind
Aren't donations a contribution? Because i'm seeing lots of donations being made to Trisquel since the donation system has started. Plus Trisquel has also other sources of income like the gift shop and so on, but the donations alone should be sufficient to see an improvement in the release

Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser and Search Engines

2012-10-20 Thread Andrew M. 'Leny' Lindley
On Saturday 20 October 2012 14:55:42 aliasb...@gmail.com wrote: My testes conclusion was that: DuckDuckGo used Non-Free Javascript code Google Search used more than DuckDuckGo And even trisquel.info use some here: https://trisquel.info/files/js/js_46b6d83fb479a8e3ad80fae1cc075034.js AIUI

Re: [Trisquel-users] gnome

2012-10-20 Thread aliasbody
I know it is spam but I think it is weird :S... In all the time I've been on this forum (1 month if I'm not wrong) only 1 or 2 weeks I start to see those kind of messages, but before they where smaller. We really need a forum moderator to remove those kind of messages.

Re: [Trisquel-users] gnome

2012-10-20 Thread em9002
You can list them here: https://trisquel.info/en/issues/4206. That's what I've been doing. But I do agree that it would be good to have a moderator.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The Adapteva Parallella - is it genuinely free software compatible?

2012-10-20 Thread gnufreeme
To start off, what I want to do most is digitize everything in my life that is possible. I would love a machine to crunch all of these numbers quickly. I want to choose lossless versions in anticipation of future computing power that will make everyone else sorry they chose lossy codecs. I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help to remove Ubuntu, so I can put trisquel

2012-10-20 Thread lddimov
Wow, everyone is so helpful, kind, and knowledgeable! One of the reasons I love the free software community. All of these are great tips and very helpful. And I had no idea about HTML5-mode on youtube! As far as the output from mount, below is what comes back on one of the 3 laptops that I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser and Search Engines

2012-10-20 Thread Andrew M. 'Leny' Lindley
On Saturday 20 October 2012 19:39:37 aliasb...@gmail.com wrote: If I'm not wrong, the LibreJS movement is not to only block non-free Javascript code, but also to block anything that could possibly not be accessible (in terms of code) by anyone who used it, and this is why they detect external

[Trisquel-users] Re : A FSF supported project needs help: mediagoblin

2012-10-20 Thread magicbanana
The future tense in your sentence confused me. Sorry to have misunderstood you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help to remove Ubuntu, so I can put trisquel

2012-10-20 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Looks like there is no separate home partition, so you need to first backup anything you wish to save off the hard disk and then go ahead with the install. I too suggest when installing, do make a separate home. You can have as many OSes as you wish on one computer but you cannot have more

[Trisquel-users] Re : Ubuntu Tweak project is now dead. What now?

2012-10-20 Thread magicbanana
I have *never* written that the project is not important/used. Obviously you have some kind of problem parsing English sentences (or lack any understanding of logical implications). Let me help you: the word if introduces a condition and what comes after this condition is only true if the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help to remove Ubuntu, so I can put trisquel

2012-10-20 Thread lddimov
Thank you for the advice and the link lembas! I don't doubt that YOU can remove any OS, but I am a caveman in this regard - my area of expertise is not even close to computer operating systems... Still, I am doing better than many of the rest of my colleagues who don't even know what

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu Tweak project is now dead. What now?

2012-10-20 Thread tegskywalker
You are now trolling the thread because I replied and said that my post proceeded his response about the fork, which I didn't know about. I'm fine with the English language but I am getting the assumption here that neither of us are listening to each other.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The Adapteva Parallella - is it genuinely free software compatible?

2012-10-20 Thread Andrew M. 'Leny' Lindley
On Saturday 20 October 2012 21:58:40 gnufre...@hushmail.com wrote: Some very good ideas were snipped. I'll leave the high-concept projects to you. Just let me know when you put out your Freebot 1.0 stable release or when you need crowdfunding. I'm not a PhD computer scientist

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu Tweak project is now dead. What now?

2012-10-20 Thread tegskywalker
I'm also basing Banana's viewpoint on the comment he made in his first reply: If it indeed dies, that would simply mean that people did not find Ubuntu Tweaks that useful.

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU and Linux

2012-10-20 Thread chris
True. Android might have a kernel derived from Linux although you should probably be careful in calling it a “Linux”. It is not done in the spirit of “Linux” or free software and calling it “Linux” is like like calling Apple's Mac OS X a BSD. There may be some truth behind it although it

Re: [Trisquel-users] The Adapteva Parallella - is it genuinely free software compatible?

2012-10-20 Thread gnufreeme
You are too kind. Thank you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The Adapteva Parallella - is it genuinely free software compatible?

2012-10-20 Thread gnufreeme
Yes. I did donate to the TUBE open movie. It sounded like a good idea. Not only is it made with free software, but crowdfunded as well. We do need more of this for sure.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-20 Thread chris
Like Magic Banana said the amount of funds are insufficient at this point to make a difference in the timeliness of the releases. Until there are sufficient funds for Rubén Rodríguez to work on it full time I don't think it is unreasonable that the release time be significant in comparison

[Trisquel-users] Re : Ubuntu Tweak project is now dead. What now?

2012-10-20 Thread magicbanana
So, you really do not under logical consequences!? The project is not dead (which, by the way, makes the thread's title a lie), i.e., the condition in my sentence is wrong. As a consequence, the rest of the sentence can be true or false. That is not much of a viewpoint. I let the rest of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stability

2012-10-20 Thread wsetgmkp3pqwepaqwxcu
linux-libre32_3.6.2_i386.deb at http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh/pool/main/l/linux-libre32/ is just 626bytes. Can please tell how do you make the deb for linux-libre? or where i can get? Thanks.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu Tweak project is now dead. What now?

2012-10-20 Thread tegskywalker
At the time of the original post, the news of him leaving was just announced. Since then, there have been announcements of forks and I was made aware of the next steps. Even with that in mind, you are still basing your argument on my original post and it is a lazy effort on your part to