Re: [Trisquel-users] I will be using Trisquel 6 with Cinnamon

2013-02-09 Thread john . wilkins21
I installed JUST the Cinnamon desktop and as far as I can tell that doesn't install any extra programs, for instance the default browser is still abrowser and there are no programs available other than the standard Trisquel 6 ones in the menu.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Abrowser and not IceCat?

2013-02-09 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 08/02/13 11:24, Jason Self escribió: This is an appropriate use of the trademark Actually, Mozilla's trademark policy goes too far: http://jxself.org/mozilla_trademark.shtml http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html [...] In addition, if you compile a modified version, as

Re: [Trisquel-users] I will be using Trisquel 6 with Cinnamon

2013-02-09 Thread tegskywalker
System resources wise, I still get better performance with MATE, but MATE is a fork of Gnome 2 and I am technically using older versions of Gnome applications that are name differently. For example, Eye of Mate instead of Eye of Gnome and Caja instead of Nautilus. With Cinnamon, I am using

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 6

2013-02-09 Thread gustavo_cm
It's only possible to upgrade an installation of a STS (short-term support) version of Ubuntu (therefore Trisquel also) to the very next version, be it STS or LTS (long-term support). (LTS installations can be upgraded either to the very next STS version or to the next LTS, launched every 2

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread gustavo_cm
No links appeared, Chris. Jodiendo, I would boot the system with a Trisquel LiveCD and test the wireless; if it doesn't work, which is most probable, then I would teach my (your) friend about what many companies do in order to have control of the market: restrict the consumer/user's

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread ron
Most here may not agree with my response but I would suggest, for someone who is new to the GNU Linux environment, to get them a distro that will give them the least problems when it comes to compatibility with hardware. I did this with my friends and family as I gave them Ubuntu

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 6

2013-02-09 Thread tegskywalker
Those issues would be solved if he moved from a LTS to LTS release so 6 will be 12.04 and 7 will be 14.04. At the pace right now, the Trisquel releases will always be 4-6 months behind the Ubuntu release. But this is Ruben's distribution and his rules and we are just users waiting for

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 13-02-08 10:24 PM, ch...@thinkpenguin.com a écrit : Besides the USB G adapter option there is also a mini pci card option most likely. You can replace the card inside the laptop. It looks like it should be an easy thing to do. There appears to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 13-02-09 12:37 PM, r...@ronbravo.com a écrit : Most here may not agree with my response but I would suggest, for someone who is new to the GNU Linux environment, to get them a distro that will give them the least problems when it comes to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread davidvargas1
Sorry guys, been working extra long hours on the field. Here is the latest news, as of today. After explaining, the lack of full cooperation, That certain companies consider those drivers and firmware to be theirs, and sometimes there is no support TO THE GNU/linux COMMUNITY: hes reply

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread onpon4
I second this. Including nonfree drivers and firmware does not result in the least amount of problems; it results in the most amount of problems being hidden. Eventually the nonfree software will fail, and when it does, the person you introduced GNU/Linux to will be frustrated and assume

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread onpon4
Not wanting to spend money because the computer is old. Sounds like my mom. If you're feeling charitable, you could offer to buy something for him, but that might not be something you can do. Try mentioning this: if a new component is bought, it can be used on future laptops and other

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Abrowser and not IceCat?

2013-02-09 Thread Jason Self
So compiling a modified version is trivial without branding. Indeed, but to quote Brett: Unfortunately, such a restriction in a trademark license does make the software nonfree. As we've said in the past, a requirement that you rename the software when you modify it is fine -- but a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread Jason Self
I've heard others advocate a similar strategy involving a multi-step strategy of moving people to free software. The problem I find with this is that everyone then spends all of their time on step one (being more free than they were in step zero) and no one moves on to step two (fully free.) We

[Trisquel-users] Dependency Error Gtk-Gnutella

2013-02-09 Thread stevekilleen
I am currently using Trisquel 6.0 x86 with Gnome and I installed Gtk-Gnutella from the package manager. The version available in the package manager is out of date and out of date versions of Gtk-Gnutella are unusable, so I downloaded the newest version from the Gtk-Gnutella website and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread davidvargas1
Ronbravo and MAGIC FAB Thanks for your suggestion, all are valid. I'm going to stick to my game plan on persuade him to purchase and sharing the cost for a card or an adapter, that will ease the pain. I think he is getting a sweet deal from me, sort of speak. While typing, on my

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread davidvargas1
Christ If I'm successful in persuading him, once I purchase what ever adapter we choose. Don't forget to toss a mouse pad in the package just for libre purposes. LOL

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread davidvargas1
Onpong Excellent suggestions. You just gave me more ammunition to reinforce my comments.Are you sure you are a Lawyer? lol Thank You

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread davidvargas1
JXself Exactly, If I'm successful I believe I graduated from Step one. So, in your own interpretation, what is Step 2? Be my Polaris star on this one, just guide me. Hey, I could pin point with accuracy the Polaris star at night, If you need help. During my Army days, One of the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread chris
The problem with randomly installing GNU/Linux is the hardware in general isn't well supported. It'll work today although not tomorrow. There really isn't a problem with Ubuntu on hardware which is better supported from an ease of use perspective. Getting people to move away from a

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 6

2013-02-09 Thread chris
He is sticking to the current path because either way you go there will be upset users. Which I think is a fair answer. I think at some future date there is going to be a better answer. However for the time being it is what it is.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Dependency Error Gtk-Gnutella

2013-02-09 Thread mikko . viinamaki
I guess you could go upstream for a fishing expedition. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=namessuite=allsection=allkeywords=libfontconfig1 This specific package has no obvious licensing problems. Generally speaking packages marked 'restricted' and 'multiverse' are proprietary. More

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 13-02-09 01:48 PM, davidvarg...@mac.com a écrit : Dammit, I just order a card for myself, I wish I could bought him one...I got no more money to spare, until the end of the month. I have an idea: I will try to persuade him to purchase a new

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman

2013-02-09 Thread pamelatorent
One more.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman

2013-02-09 Thread Sachin Dey
Church Of Emacs?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman

2013-02-09 Thread tegskywalker

[Trisquel-users] Did Microsoft invest in Dell to curb GNU/Linux adoption?

2013-02-09 Thread tegskywalker
Dell has offered Ubuntu based laptops in the past and not really advertised them much and recently they came out with new XPS models that run the latest Ubuntu. I don't know how well they are selling, but it was good to some that a big vendor supported GNU/Linux in some way. I then read

Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Microsoft invest in Dell to curb GNU/Linux adoption?

2013-02-09 Thread chris
Dell isn't taking GNU/Linux anywhere. Dell is at best using GNU/Linux for publicity and/or to make baseless threats toward Microsoft to coerce better deals. They are certainly no threat to Microsoft though. Microsoft has all the major companies under its tight grip. If there was any threat