Agreed. As much as I appreciate the ideals behind Open Wireless Movement,
there are still many legal issues to be taken into account. Of course, if he
can make sure he has no problem with being a part of it, he is welcome to do
so. BUT, right now, I don't think things are in such a good
And if you're telling me that I'm overreacting maybe I should think about it
:D
Takes one to know the other :P
In the hope we can make this forum a better place, I have decided to change
the way I interact here a little bit... no more arguing. I state my views,
opinions, information,
I was taking a read yesterday at the article on FSF website, and I was very
happy when I saw that they had recognized the work done by the glug shop.
HOWEVER, and I think this is important to say, unless my memory is playing a
trick on me, glug RAISED THE PRICES THE SAME DAY!
Now... I am not
So... I still can't access trisquel.info with the new version of TBB.
Anything else needed to allow us in here? I would (and did try initially)
whitelist the IP manually but the problem is that Tor uses different IP
addresses everytime, so it is not a solution.
Hope it get's fixed soon.
Well, RMS tends to say things he shouldn't, so Oralfloss reasoning is more
than justified. And anyway, YES feeding my kids is enough justification. How
can you disagree with that? What, are you so fucking retarded that if you had
your kids and wife starving you wouldn't do ANYTHING to help
Interesting, you talk like that simply because you take everything that comes
out of the FSF/RMS mouths as holy law, and want to impose that on others too.
You don't want anyone to question things, to say should it be this way?.
You remind me of 1984, the movie made in 1954 which is in public
Sure... so for you to go and suggest free software to someone should be a
crime too, right?
Listen guys... speaking up our mind, trying to give others what we believe
are the best principles, is no something that is wrong. Debate will always
bring a more clear idea and path in everyone's
Dude, you are asking for help installing free software. Relax, if someone
criticizes you, just tell them to fuck off. They already want to censor
threads on proprietary software, don't let them do the same with free
software threads!
Have you tried CM? Like said above, Replicant will come
Hey. Try taking a look at this
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/83936-request-for-samsung-galaxy-star-duos/
It has no replies yet, but maybe you can add your own request there, and it
will eventually play out :) good luck.
Also, you might wanna try getting root access, removing some pieces
While I think that the whole grav-mass is the stupidest idea on earth
(basically people disrespect Isaac Newton who was a christian, by using his
name and work as a way to make the celebration of Christmas appear
irrelevant), I don't think it was a bad thing to post it here. It's as if a
When I saw it the first time, they were about 150. But maybe the price had
been changed before already.
Anyway, it's a very bad idea to raise the price exactly in that moment.
Hum... excuse me, but how is having a lot of costumers a bad thing? -.^
I don't know how much he spends to get the laptops, but if he started selling
at 100 and is now near the 200, he sure is making use of the publicity to get
more and more profit margin. While that is not wrong in itself,
I am starting to think you can't read. You misunderstood Oralfloss arguments,
and now mine! -.-
I was saying that IF my kids were starving, as a LAST RESORT I WOULD STEAL
FOOD! That is to say that sometimes, unethical things can be justified. Got
it?
And as for the get a job thing... guess
Lol, I wouldn't hold my breath xD
Read this
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquelinfo-trying-block-tor-users
I agree however, there is no reason for Tor to be whitelisted or blacklisted.
I am forced to keep this old version just to come here. -.-
Hum... while I can't help you with where to get the laptop, I will tell you
something that came to my mind when reading your post. My laptop, for some
reason, only works with Debian based distros. Ubuntu, Mint, Debian,
Trisquel, Puppy, Tails, all work great. But anything that comes from
So you make freedom available only for those who pay the highest price? -.-
as I have said, in a purely commercial view, I understand. They are selling a
service and an item, and they are entitled to make the price. And people are
free to choose if they want it or not. But I consider that we
Was that comment for me?
Hello everyone.
I want to install libdvdcss, but I don't want to allow non-free repositories.
I remembered that Trisquel has a script that makes the installation
automatically, could someone please provide it to me?
I have downloaded it from videolan, but I can't install it for some reason
Yes, could you please provide me with the script? I have downloaded both the
deb file and the tar file, and it can't install =/ I am hoping the sript
might work.
Two words for you: fuck off
You are bored with my comments, but not with people who act like FSF parrots,
merely repeating everything they post on their website.
If you read my comments (can you read??) you will see that I am defending
their right to raise the prices, but that we should
Thanks! =D
It worked like a charm (I mean, it got installed, haven't tried playing DVD
yet lol).
Thanks for the help.
Probably. If we think about it, it was not IBM who got the certification, the
FSF gave it because of glug's work. So, maybe that is the reason, since there
are not a lot of places you can get lemote yeelong prepared with freebios and
such.
A problem with lemote is the fact that not every
Maybe you should post those to the person above me.
Exactly :)
Debian and GNewsense (based on Debian) run it. Don't know other distros that
support it.
(again, it shows that more options bring freedom, kudos to Debian team)
Didn't know that. Cool :)
Can't imagine why they didn't endorse it then.
Lol, if I could afford it I guess I would make a collection of those
(yeloong, X60, etc) :P
clearly how you are as a man, or should I say kid?), you are
the worst piece of shit in this place. You think because you are a president
of some stupid group you are above others and can push them around like you
tried to do with me. You are not and you cannot.
oooh, GNUser was bad to me
What... the... HELL???
Who the hell you think you are akirashinigami?? You want to come here and
start censoring other people, just because you don't like what they write?
Lol, nice way to kill a fanbase/community/whatever you want to call us.
As someone who has suffered censorship here in
And you should realize that evangelism is a word that is used many times as
spreading an idea, and not merely a religious idea. Basically it comes from
the fact that religious people are always ready to talk about their faith.
And yes, we are probably flagged by the NSA. I have already
Ethics are not the only argument for FLOSS.
Security, support, costs, all come to mind when it comes to use FLOSS.
The ethical side of it... It has it's place, but honestly I think some FLOSS
ideas might as well be considered unethical, so it is a matter of balance, in
which two persons can
Dear God, and the guy talks as if it was the biggest gift he has ever get.
just like I say, bringing NSA to the masses...
Thanks for the info.
I know RMS likes to nitpick... so what?
The reasons I pointed out are totally fine arguments to convince someone to
let go of windows and use free software is good. You can teach them later.
You talk as if you truly want to do the right thing, so let me explain to you
how you can do so. Don't. Just don't do it. It's very pretty to come here and
say I want to do what is the best for the community and I want a democratic
process, but in the end, once you have the power to ban
Hello everyone.
I use Tor to do my web browsing. A few days ago, I downloaded the new TBB,
3.5
Ever since I did that, I can't access the website, it always gives me a 403
error message, and it gives a link to project honeypot (something like that).
I asked in the Tor Blog, and someone said it
As far as I know, there are FLOSS GPS software alternatives, but no open
source GPS hardware alternatives.
It might even be impossible, because maybe ALL satellites require some kind
of signature from the hardware. A home made GPS might never work. But I
don't know, if there is let me know
Damn... that's almost like bringing NSA to the masses.
It doesn't matter if it's a bug, an anti-feature, or even a bad feature
inserted on purpose, it has to be REMOVED NOW!
Too bad we don't have good old gnome 2 anymore =(
I have been thinking what DE to use in my Debian machine. LXDE and
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/24.0
I believe this is what you were asking. Right?
So... how long until the new TBB is allowed in here? :P
Kidding aside, it shouldn't happen, I mean, if people download the latest TBB
they have to keep using
First, by running only repository software, at least in Debian, there is a
lot less chance something will crash or cause conflicts with other software
(that's why they call it stable).
Second, when you run only software from the repositories, you are trusting
only ONE source. Whenever you
thanks!
Hope it get's fixed soon :)
Maybe the trisquel project could arrange some way to, with help from the tor
project, to automatically whitelist the newer TBB when they make a release.
Possible?
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. People should stop being so
stupid and insensitive with people trying to make a decent honest living.
If we want creators (software or other stuff) to use freer licenses we should
help creating a business model that meets everyone's needs.
Amazingly some people would still object to that. Maybe we should also have a
thread of free software mental problems lol.
Anyway, yes, it's possible to make a living out of free licenses... but it's
a lot HARDER and a lot more UNCERTAIN. That's why a lot of people don't use
free licenses,
You know, there is a difference between an honest job and theft. And even
so, most of us would hardly condemn a man who steals food for his kids to
eat. So, yeah, your argument was pretty much out of context.
Having said that, like I said there are people who like to be stupid and play
That would be one example of a psychological problem, lol. But the same could
be said about some free software projects out there :P
Agreed!
Screw Eric Schmidt! G... -.-
Hey Lembas, do you have a link of when he said that? Oh wait, I can just go
and search google for it :P Joking.
I still think single board will use less electricity. A machine that will be
on 24/7 would be better with a lower power consumption. Just my thoughts =)
it might be due to english not being my first language, but your letter seems
a little confusing to me. It sound too technical, and not very to the
point. But maybe for a english speaking person it might look fine
First, thanks for the testimony a_slacker_here. I think if you wanted and
would make a review with more details about LibreCad (either text or images
or even video) it would be a really helpful thing for people who want to
suggest free software. For example, I have no idea how AutoCad and
I was talking about evil communism vs good communism :P But yeah, it is
similar to communism in a way.
I think that in a community GPL would be the perfect single license. In the
society we live right now, I would have to say that licenses that allow you
to take a free code and make
Hey guys.
I was watching an interview of Jacob Appelbaum in Germany () and at a certain
point he says that I saw one of the NSA's rules for DPI and it was about a
certain linux website that was marked as extremist so they look into
everyone who visits that website. These were not the exact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt7XloDNcm4
by the way here is the link for the interview
You are being picky with words, but here is the copy of his own page
Cellular Phones
I see that cellular phones are very convenient. I would have got one, if
not for certain reprehensible things about them.
Cell phones tracking and surveillance devices. They all enable the phone
I think Grimlok might be the person here who actually has given it the best
thought (even better than mine). By accepting that RMS might not be perfect
but still he has done a lot of work for the free software world, Grimlok's
reply actually appeal to me as a very sensitive and wise way of
Hey everyone.
I have been looking on F-Droid but found nothing. I need a free software that
allows to be installed in android (I am using CM7) to record phone calls. In
my country companies can make a lot of deals over the phone, but later they
change the rules of the contract and you can
The best (in terms of power consumption and features) are in fact the
single-board computers. Even though it looks like the FSF does not approve of
those, if you read carefully the link Lembas provided, you will notice that
most of the time is because the graphics card requires non-free
I am in a little hurry right now, but one thing I would like to give you an
answer to is the difference between society and community.
While this is something that I have been thinking about for some time and
have not yet figured the best way to express the whole thing clearly, the
Hey, sorry to bump an old thread, but I was really interested in knowing how
it all turned out. Muhammed, did you send the letters? What were the answers
they gave you?
Thanks.
Hello guys.
Ok, look, first, I want to say that I have a great respect for Richard
Stallman, mainly for his work on free software. I am not attacking him, or
anything, I am merely raising a question (one I believe is valid).
I have been reading his website and something caught my attention.
I don't think he has ever used that expression superior, but let's be
honest, each person lives in the way that he thinks is best and when one
person goes to such great lenghts to live in a specific way, which is
different from everyone else, we might say that he thinks that is the correct
Quoting Richard Stallman
In 1981, using a computer in freedom was impossible, all operating systems
were proprietary.
In this sentence RMS says 2 things:
1. Many options don't necessarily mean more freedom, if none of them is free;
2. The lack of options equals a lack of freedom, if no free
If I could trade my current laptop (that is actually pretty free software
friendly, not much to complain...) by one of those, I would. But spending
money on another computer is really not the main need I have right now.
I am still happy to see these, and hope more will come. Maybe some other
Agreed. But I am not one not to speak my mind on things, so (as you
discovered in our past debates) whenever this issue comes up, I will fight
the good fight. And if I was able to convince you that piracy is in some
ways, bad, maybe one day I will make other people realize that Debian is a
Not sure man... Have you checked the ISO file and the burned CD? Check the
integrity maybe the CD got a bad burn... Happened to me before :P
Thanks =)
I will probably just give up on MATE and use only what is in the Debian
repository (that is one security rule of mine, never add PPA unless
absolutely necessary, but I wanted to try MATE).
Why do you prefer xfce?
Ten years from now, when Hurd is fully developed, a capable usable kernel,
people will incorporate it into Trisquel and say now I am using the GNU
system!, forgetting that most of the work came from Debian.
No one has given so much to free software development like Debian. Canonical,
Red
Hum, that looks good =)
Too bad (again) is necessary to add a PPA.
Isn't anything in the repos that will give an improved menu?
Whisker looks good, especially for something like xfce
Being in control is power, not freedom.
Debian provides you with a FREE as in speech Operating System. ONLY if you
want will you add non free software to it. Saying that the Debian operating
system is non free software is stupid. Trisquel operating system and Debian
operating system are
And some weird FSF nitpicking mysteriously started.
Sometimes I think if some people with free software hate didn't infiltrate
the FSF to distance it from other free software projects, to weaken the free
software world. -.-
Mind telling me why having different kernels and arquitechtures hurts free
software? Again, I don't see anyone complaining when they run Debian on their
tablet or e-book reader!
And mind telling me how did Debian hurt the free software world?
What I said about Hurd still holds true
Oh yes - All hail FSF, no matter if they nitpick and do nonsense stuff like
rejecting a free software distro.
Yeah sure... GNU has 2 kernels:
1. Hurd: the only people who have made available a usable distro using this
kernel were... Debian.
2. Linux-libre: Which is based and relies on
The FSF has a list of free distros. And the FSF has another list of common
distros that are non-free partially or as a whole).
If the Debian distro is free (and you said so yourself) the distro should be
there. With a warning about the non-free repos maybe, but the DISTRO itself
should be
One thing I believe should be considered is this: if Debian did not exist
then gnewsense, trisquel, ubuntu, tails, mint, and a lot of other distros,
would probably not exist either. If we read the social contract of debian, we
see they are serious about helping the society to have freedom
Thanks for the link for the end of america video. DAMN :S
That was weird... it was nothing I did not know already (except some of the
examples they gave) but it was scary to see the way things are going.
Hey, do you have any similar information about what is the situation on
europe and asia?
Maybe it's the end of the world that is coming, yes so what? Does that
means you have to go and attack someone who simply shared information? Dude,
relax
why ridiculous?? It seems like a sane thing to do, if you can't buy another
tv and want to use it to watch private files, or simply don't want them to
learn your viewing habits.
But thanks for the idea of the firewall =)
Your comment was a reply to my comment which was a reply to Jodiendo
comment... In which he talks about the end of the world (another way to say
end of days). So, my comment was basically saying that maybe jodiendo is
right and the end of days/world is coming but that does not justify is
No if you install Debian in your mother's machine and don't manually add
the non-free repository, she will hardly do so herself, because she will
probably trust the installation procedure her son did. Debian installs
without non-free, it's a choice of the user, the same that exists in
For the last time: the end of days is an expression that the Bible uses to
refer to the end of the world (destruction of everything that exists and
the making of a new universe). Either you believe it or not, Jodiendo WAS
talking about the end of the world. And what I said about freedom
I remember having the same issue... I think you can force the installer to
go on without internet (I had to keep choosing the other options time and
time again).
Sorry, but it has been a long time and don't remember the specifics :S
I just wonder, what is the best source of support for the Open Hardware
movement from this point of view? Maybe a proprietary software company alike
Microsoft?
No. Microsoft is never the answer. :P
If he was mocking, he was wrong in doing so.
And still: maybe the world is going to end, maybe it's not... Doesn't mean he
can mistreat another user for no good reason. Especially one who was simpy
posting information.
Explain something: why do you use text installer? The graphical installer
does the job with no problem. what exactly you need? :)
Well, if the person does not understand the difference between gratis and
libre software, that could happen. I think it's important to keep educating
people. But, as you say, Debian should be considered free and libre, because
it's what it is. Telling someone you either use Trisquel or you
LOL good luck man... soon, very soon, the high priests of Trisquel will
start destroying each bit of your very soul... you dared saying that in some
way Trisquel is not the best OS in the world, they will not forgive you :S
Lol, seriously now, expect a debate here ;)
Even more seriously,
Openoffice vs LibreOffice... really, do we need a Super Power Beat Down?
LibreOffice is the clear best choice. Also, because it is developed by the
Open Document Foundation, supporting it is supporting a freer society. And
OpenOffice was not being actively developed last time I checked
Are you sure it's the correct iso? How bit was the file you downloaded?
I would have to say that Fernando is actually making sense in some things he
says here in the forum. I don't necessarily agree with everything, for
example he and I have different opinions on the Tor network, but he has
presented some valid points to why he believes in some things. And when
Thanks guys.
I was under the impression that tablets were still some very expensive
thing... Like 100 and 200 bucks a piece.
Not that I am thinking about buying one, but I am happy that free software is
conquering it all :D
One question: are tablets like smartphones, in the sense that even if
Damn =/ that's the world we live in... too bad =/
One question: would it be possible to control what data get sent to LG at the
wireless router? (closing ports or something...?)
While I am happy that there is a new free software in the neighborhood, I
have to ask... what is the point exactly? Does it turn a e-book reader into a
tablet running debian? I am sorry, but the informations were a little
confusing in that forum.
Also, what is the hardware on that ebook
Hey there.
Any chance you have a link with ALL the information, kinda like a documentary
or something..? Something easier to research, to get a better picture of what
it is.
Thanks
I don't think it's a hoverhyped thing. I think is an underhyped thing when
people say shrug I will get one anyway, I don't care they spy on me.
I hope running a FLOSS rom (Cm and Replicant) is enough to protect a little
bit more... But as I have said in another thread, I don't trust my phone
Thanks for the reply. I know that the main interest is to get rid of the
proprietary software, but in the end it's a good thing that you can get a
tablet for 40 bucks or so Under normal circumstances a real tablet is
much more expensive and it will require proprietary software to work.
I have a saying that goes like this
Privacy is a right. Anonymity is not. But privacy is dead, so get over it.
The only hope we have left is anonymity.
Since you distrust Tor, what do you do to stay private/anonymous online? You
seem to be very critic of governments and companies and such, I
I wonder why gnewsense is above trisquel, when Trisquel is developed more
often than gnewsense.
Besides, Debian and Fedora are well positioned and those are also freedom
friendly distros, so I think people are actually noticing how important that
is. I understand why Mint is number 1, I used
I will try to give you a more complete reply when I can, but for now, let me
clarify one thing: I don't (particularly) worry about someone who I don't
know and doesn't know me, having access to which websites I visit. I worry
(particularly) about a person who wants to discredit me at work,
I know we should not give up, I am referring specifically to smartphones. Do
we have ANY chance of being protected when using them, or should we really
avoid using private sensitive things over the phone and only do so on the
computers (where we have a little bit more control over what
Hey everyone.
Don't get me wrong, I have been a heavy user of Tor and OTR for some time now
in my day to day life. But when it came to smartphone, I used to feel ok with
using CM (replicant was unsupported) and F-Droid repositories. But when I
think of HOW a smartphone works, it seems
Thanks everyone for the suggestions... Unfortunatly I really need something
SIMPLE.
I used to have a software called furius chypher that has disappeared
unfortunately. It was a simple window, that you would enter the text, a
passphrase and that was it, it would encrypt everything. I need
Well, I know I am going to get burned alive for asking this but...
I need a software to encrytp text and files, that works under both windows
and GNU/Linux. It has to be this way, since the person I need to communicate
with only has access to a windows pc. Also, it would be REALLY great if it
Oh and I will need to make thigs look easy... the person in question has no
idea about computer and technology in general :P
I am exagerating of course, but really, it's a very low level tech person.
So, let's have that in mind.
THANKS
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