Re: [Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-28 Thread andyprough
Metal Rat does have a nice soothing ring to it. I was thinking "Andy's Little Shop of Horrors" might be good. Or just simply "This Distro is Completely Unsupported and Only a Fool Would Try It" - kind of a truth in advertising kind of a thing.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-28 Thread bobandrew
I can't wait for the first release of Triscuit 1.0 xyz https://trisquel.info/en/forum/return-son-show-your-desktop-again?page=1#comment-149934 How do you plan to name your release versions? Following the Chinese calendar would give Triscuit 1.0 Metal Rat.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-28 Thread mason
> PureOS was an oversight and those problems should be addressed there too. It's not just that there are some problems to address. It appears that PureOS has barely even begun to work toward FSDG compliance beyond choosing to start from an already mostly-free base distro. I don't know how

Re: [Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-28 Thread jason
I'm not proposing a different standard. PureOS was an oversight and those problems should be addressed there too.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-28 Thread bobandrew
How could we check that there is no relationship between this: https://libreplanet.org/2018/sponsors/ and the fact that PureOS has been added to the fsf list in December 2017, if I am not mistaken?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-28 Thread andyprough
I could just add firefox to the apt preferences file and permanently block it, I presume.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-28 Thread mason
To be clear, I don't personally see the FSDG as the be-all and end-all, and I would not fault Purism for making some strategic compromises, such as that needed to support the hardware needed for their phone. I just want to see one standard applied consistently and fairly to all distros who

Re: [Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-28 Thread mason
> Sounds like my personal libre-tized version of Devuan with jxself's Linux-libre installed and all non-free repos and firmware and microcode and firefox removed (and anything else recommended by vrms) is a lot more free than PureOS. Not sure I'd say "a lot more". Firefox is still

Re: [Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-28 Thread andyprough
Sounds like my personal libre-tized version of Devuan with jxself's Linux-libre installed and all non-free repos and firmware and microcode and firefox removed (and anything else recommended by vrms) is a lot more free than PureOS.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-27 Thread mason
> and I believe the FSF should not endorse it It should be obvious at first glance to anyone with an understanding of the FSDG and familiarity with Debian-based distros that PureOS does not follow the FSDG. Many of the most basic freedom issues in Debian can be checked and confirmed in

Re: [Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-27 Thread mason
> Does it distribute a kernel with nonfree firmware? If so, PureOS looks, freedom-wise, not different from Fedora No, it uses Debian's kernel, which does remove firmware blobs. However, removing blobs is not the only thing that the Linux-libre scripts do. From [here][1], mainline Linux

Re: [Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-27 Thread mason
> "using the Linux-libre kernel and using Canonical-supported free and open-source software repositories that does not contain non-free packages and closed programs" > Excluding programs is not the only thing. Some need modification, not outright banning. Purism doesn't make these

Re: [Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-27 Thread jason
Do you mean Uruk would directly use the Ubuntu repositories in the sources.list? That means would automatically fail https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html "using the Linux-libre kernel and using Canonical-supported free and open-source software repositories

[Trisquel-users] Another path....

2020-06-27 Thread hayder
We believe that "Simple change can make a big difference", which is what made us work to this moment despite all the difficulties that we faced, and keep Uruk project and the Uruk GNU / Linux distribution until now . Uruk wouldn't have continued had it not been for Trisquel and its community