Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-31 Thread LDrumbler
You can never be sure of that when purchasing something over the Internet. But I'm not exactly flying to Toronto to perform the exchange in person; if I were, I would have asked for a lot more. I don't believe they own the patent; that expired long ago. In our paper communications, they

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-30 Thread cyberhawk
Clarendon looks like a very good font, it's really pleasent to read. If someone owns the patent for Clarendon and sells it for $120 per license (right here) I can hardly imagine, that he will free it for $30K. Armworm, can you be completely sure the guy won't just take the money and keep

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-29 Thread onpon4
Wha- how can a typeface older than 150 years involve a patent that is still active today? Patents don't last that long. If it was patented recently enough for the patent to still be active, it would have to be invalid. I also find it hard to believe that the guy who made the typeface lived

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-29 Thread gaming4jc2
Their relatives can renew the patent and patents can also be sold and renewed by the new owners as I understand it. A bigger issue than this is: http://gigaom.com/2013/11/26/troll-wins-newegg-encryption-patent-case-threatening-web-firms-that-protect-customers/ Now we're talking people

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-29 Thread onpon4
I'm pretty sure patents don't work that way. If they can be renewed at all, they can only be renewed once for 10 or so additional years. There is no way a patent in the U.S. can last 150 years. Even copyright doesn't normally last that long yet.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-29 Thread gaming4jc2
https://www.legalzoom.com/intellectual-property-rights/intellectual-property-basics/selling-patent-copyright-or http://info.legalzoom.com/renew-patent-23430.html Plant patents and utility patents last up to 20 years from the date of application, while patents for designs last up to 14 years

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-29 Thread onpon4
The first one doesn't say anything about patent renewal. The second one says that patents can only be renewed in certain special cases, and it doesn't say that it can be done perpetually. It's talking about plants and drugs, not fonts.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-29 Thread jason
I wasn't speaking to this specific case, only pointing out something in response to your statement about copyright.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-29 Thread LDrumbler
The way copyright works in the U.S... I'm Canadian, buying from a Canadian foundry.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-28 Thread LDrumbler
Bump! We're really lagging in donations, and can't do this without your help.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-28 Thread adel . afzal
You've really got me more interested in fonts Armworm. I see from the Indiegogo page that Clarendon has a long history, and that it's popular. But $32 300 is a lot of money! Are there any free fonts that are similar to Clarendon? Why won't a close enough substitute/knock-off do?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-28 Thread onpon4
To be completely honest, I have zero interest in this. It's not a font that people think of as standard or anything, and it's not special enough for me to want to use it. And the way copyright of fonts works in the U.S., $30,000 seems like a total waste. Since the font face itself can't be

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-28 Thread jason
onpon4 said And the way copyright of fonts works in the U.S Hence the fundraising mentions patents, which are valid in the U.S. for fonts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_protection_of_typefaces#Design_patents Patent law is an entirely different beast than copyright

[Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-23 Thread LDrumbler
Remember this thread about setting proprietary typefaces free? And then this thread? It's finally happening! My campaign to turn one of the greatest typefaces of all time into free software is up and live! I aim to collect Canada Type's fee of $30,000 (I've set the goal higher for the sake

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-23 Thread gramex
What is special about Clarendon?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-23 Thread LDrumbler
It's one of the oldest and most popular typefaces that survive today. That's why I chose it over Canada Type's other possibility, Informa Pro.