Re: [Trisquel-users] Handbrake 0.9.9 on Toutatis

2014-01-04 Thread myself600
I never said that the GPL was non-free. Please don't put words in my mouth. I compared HandBrake with Linux-Libre, which are licensed under GPLv2. Therefore calling HandBrake non-free can be applied to Linux-Libre too. The problem with HandBrake is in providing a static executable, rather

Re: [Trisquel-users] Handbrake 0.9.9 on Toutatis

2014-01-04 Thread jason
Therefore, using terms like not completely freedom respecting, or partially free software is more appropriate here. Yep, and I no longer use terms like calling a program semifree: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html#ProprietarySoftware

Re: [Trisquel-users] Handbrake 0.9.9 on Toutatis

2014-01-04 Thread myself600
One important thing I forgot to add is that, from my experience, there are two main categories of partially free software: one that can be liberated, and one that cannot be The first category make use of parts, that can be cut out without seriously affecting the program functionality (e.g.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Handbrake 0.9.9 on Toutatis

2014-01-04 Thread george . standish
The key factor here is the dfsg in the package name. That represents changes being made, by the debian packager to remove the non-free elements, to make it Debian Free Software Guidlines acceptable. Reading the changelog we can see the non-free stuff is being removed. NO comment on the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Handbrake 0.9.9 on Toutatis

2014-01-03 Thread myself600
Calling a GPLv2 licensed software non-free means, that you does not know how to differentiate free software from non-free. You can read the full GPLv2 license to better understand, how it protects the software/user. Also, take a look at the list of FSF approved free software licenses. If you

Re: [Trisquel-users] Handbrake 0.9.9 on Toutatis

2014-01-03 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Le 2014-01-02 23:05, ja...@bluehome.net a écrit : It's probably not a good idea to provide builds of non-free software, let alone advertising it here. (HandBrake uses the faac encoder, which is not free.) It would be good to determine and clarify if the Ubuntu and Debian builds being

Re: [Trisquel-users] Handbrake 0.9.9 on Toutatis

2014-01-03 Thread jason
Calling a GPLv2 licensed software non-free means, that you does not know how to differentiate free software from non-free. You can read the full GPLv2 license to better understand, how it protects the software/user. Also, take a look at the list of FSF approved free software licenses. If you

Re: [Trisquel-users] Handbrake 0.9.9 on Toutatis

2014-01-03 Thread myself600
Frankly, I wasn't aware about any of your work outside Linux-libre, which is licensed under GPLv2 too, therefore calling such software non-free was quite unexpected from you. I thought that the reason to rebuild HandBrake from source, while there is an official Launchpad PPA for it that does

Re: [Trisquel-users] Handbrake 0.9.9 on Toutatis

2014-01-03 Thread jason
Frankly, I wasn't aware about any of your work outside Linux-libre, which is licensed under GPLv2 too, therefore calling such software non-free was quite unexpected from you. I never said that the GPL was non-free. Please don't put words in my mouth. In the case of Linux-libre there are no

[Trisquel-users] Handbrake 0.9.9 on Toutatis

2014-01-02 Thread myself600
For those missing Handbrake (a free software video transcoding tool) from repo, I am now providing stable builds for both 32, and 64-bit edition of Trisquel. I thought I would rather share this here, since the bug tracker does not bring up closed issues by default.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Handbrake 0.9.9 on Toutatis

2014-01-02 Thread mbear . is . me
This is wonderful! Many thanks indeed :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Handbrake 0.9.9 on Toutatis

2014-01-02 Thread jason
It's probably not a good idea to provide builds of non-free software, let alone advertising it here. (HandBrake uses the faac encoder, which is not free.)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Handbrake 0.9.9 on Toutatis

2014-01-02 Thread mikko . viinamaki
This was my initial concern as well but if I'm reading the trisquel bug and this changelog right, the upstream removed faac. http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/h/handbrake/handbrake_0.9.9+dfsg-2~2.gbpa4c3e9/changelog