Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread tegskywalker
For a modern look, I am still in favor of Unity but for those who are into the classic look, there's always MATE and XFCE that can be tweaked to look like older Trisquel. Recently Cinnamon 1.6 was released and has a 2d option for non accelerated cards, but I heard that mode is still early a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread aliasbody
I love it but I prefer KDE because it is more customizable for what I want :D That is why I thought of creating a mix of what I (and anyone else) love of all DE Shells. PS: It is the 3ยบ DE that install on trisquel, but they don't copy the .desktop file to the /usr/share/xsession, and becaus

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread aliasbody
I know, but is not in Gnome Classic used in Trisquel. It is not in Unity2D, it is not on Xfce4 and other like this :D

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread Morne Alberts
Adding to my previous message, my solution is just for the keyboard (as I prefer). But if you want to do it with the mouse, you could look at: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/aero-snap-ubuntu-easystroke/ which uses Easystroke to run a command after a mouse gesture. -- Morne Alberts signatur

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread Morne Alberts
> Euh... wait ... yes there is, the snap window on the Top, Left and Right When I moved from Gnome Shell (which has that behaviour) back to Gnome Classic, I was frustrated without that feature. But I recently found a way that you can simulate the snapping. 1. install wmctrl 2. make the following

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread andrew
How perfectly infuriating. My 8200, 9800 GTX+ and 220 GT just get more and more reliable. My only problem is dodgy USB on the youngest desktop (4 years old) and that existed even with the non-libre distros I used in the past.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread andrew
PS: About KDE I'm really scared about the fact that Qt as been bought... we don't know what the future deserves us... but I have to be on this situation of "We just don't know", it is the worst feeling a team of developers that worked on a project for YEARS could have. The digia press relea

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread Morne Alberts
On 19/09/2012 18:33, Andrew M. 'Leny' Lindley wrote: > Have you tried Trisquel 5.5 with the most recent kernel from > jxself > and libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental installed? I have three > NV50 'cards' > (as is your 140M) and they're all rock solid with those > installed. I'm running: Trisquel 5.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread aliasbody
I'm not saying that they couldn't be handled by extensions, I'm just saying that they shouldn't have the need to be handled by those extensions. In my opinion Extensions are like PPA's... you can use them, I can provide them if anyone want and there is no one out there for their needs but I r

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread aliasbody
As for myself with the NV92 (nVidia 9800GT) I have OpenGL 3.0/3.1 with the experimental mesa stuff, and that is great :D

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread aliasbody
I thought that you were talking about the "schemes" used in Gnome (that can be edited with gcond-editor or dconf-editor) xD My bad then.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread aliasbody
The only problem with this is that, for this to happen (fallowing the Linux Permissions System Rules), the file they are editing must be in a "neutral" place like /etc/de_shell_name/configuration.cfg, and then asking for a password would be natural and not allowed for everyone. But that would

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread chris
I think forcing a user to enter an administrator password would work well. It probably should be used carefully though. You don't want to disable a non-privledged users ability to add a printer or do other essential tasks. Maybe have an option on the main panel that said "customize" where if

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread Andrew M. 'Leny' Lindley
On Wednesday 19 September 2012 18:03:22 Morne Alberts wrote: > What card do you have, though? I've got an nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M (in a Morne, Have you tried Trisquel 5.5 with the most recent kernel from jxself and libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental installed? I have three NV50 'cards' (as is your

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread Morne Alberts
> I use Trisquel 5.5 with GNOME Shell on Macbook 5.1 with NVIDIA and > nouveau works fine. What card do you have, though? I've got an nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M (in a Thinkpad T61). I tested Shell 3.4 + Ubuntu 12.04 + Nouveau on the same laptop and I got the same corruption. I did not test with the pr

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread icarolongo
I use Trisquel 5.5 with GNOME Shell on Macbook 5.1 with NVIDIA and nouveau works fine.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread migatheotaku
My goal is to create something that could either be as lightweight (or even more than) LXDE or OpenBox, or as full as something like GNOME or KDE. It'd be up to the end-user.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread Morne Alberts
> Am I the only one here not hating Gnome 3? I hate more those traditional > windows 95 legacy desktops. They are so freaking ankward after you have > got used to Gnome 3. Initially I disliked Gnome Shell. Then I started using it for a while and changed my mind. Unfortunately I had to stop using i

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread aliasbody
Yes I know that all this exist, I created myself a lot of extensions for Gnome3 like the Dropbox extension to have it on the top bar (never published any because I didn't found them useful enough for other people since alternatives exist already). The problem is that I think (as I said in my

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread aliasbody
Don't take me wrong. I love Gnome3 ! I Love the Gnome-shell more than I love Unity. I just hate that by default there is a lot of things that you can't do. I know how to program extensions for it, I already wrote one for dropbox to be on top with some custom features, but for me something as

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread moilami
Am I the only one here not hating Gnome 3? I hate more those traditional windows 95 legacy desktops. They are so freaking ankward after you have got used to Gnome 3. Gnome is doing it pretty right and I have no plans to use anything else than it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-19 Thread john . wilkins21
First of all I should make it clear that 1) I'm a newbie her and 2) I don't have a clue about coding. I've been using different DE's for some years and the problem for Me (and I suspect many others)is that too much is installed as standard ,programs that people don't want and will probably

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-18 Thread migatheotaku
I'm actually trying to work on my own DE as well. It'd be fully scriptable and modular, and allows for the replacement of any part of it with another part (say, XFCE4 panel with GNOME panel, or Metacity with Emerald, and so on). Right now though I'm still working on it and deciding how I'm

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-18 Thread alonivtsan
Other desktop environments provide more customization, e.g. Xfce, LXDE, E17.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-18 Thread aliasbody
But they are almost all the same. I love Ubuntu because of the new "Fresh air" solving a lot of Gnome-Shell problems... The only problem is that a lot of options are enabled in one version then disabled in another and Unity sounds more like a Russian roulette than a Shell. This is why I pro

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-18 Thread aliasbody
You mean like a lock button, that, when clicked, would ask for the administrator password in order to make any change ? (Like in some Gnome applications). I love for example the option "Back to default" on KDE, the problem is that the option don't work as I would expect it to do. Instead of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-18 Thread chris
You are certainly right about the need for more options. The fonts for instance are not suitable for older people. Something that GNU/Linux as a desktop operating system is just perfect for. I think what needs to happen is there should be an easy feature to lock/unlock customization options

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-18 Thread aliasbody
It is true that Pantheon win a lot thanks to that, but when I'm talking about customization, I am talking about basic customization. Example, on Ubuntu you can't change a lot in the top bar, but you should be able to make basic customizations, like for example moving the Menu Bar/Dock to th

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-18 Thread gymnarchusniloticus
The idea behind Pantheon is to unify all desktop elements based on statistical user feedback. And: 1) Customization needs more code to be written. 2) Users often break up their system while customizing too much (personal experience). 3) Most people who use a computer don't care about customiz

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-18 Thread gymnarchusniloticus
I just left an elementaryOS livecd and see a lot of potential in Pantheon.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-18 Thread aliasbody
Patheon is beautiful, it is true, I've already tried it and I really liked it. It is the best from Mac OsX and the best from Gnome in just one place. But I've found it too hard to customize :S... And that is the main reason that keep me from using it.

[Trisquel-users] Idea about a new DE Shell (What is your opinion ?)

2012-09-18 Thread aliasbody
Hello everyone ! I will be very brief. I love Unity, but I think that it is very badly managed (and uses too much Ubuntu dependencies). I love Gnome3 and Gnome-Shell but it really lacks of customisation (and they took a lot of directions that I personally wouldn't fallow). And KDE Plasma...