Just a little update on systemd, since it played a role in this post...
Devuan (Debian fork) is expecting a systemd free version of Jessie to be
released sometime this summer...
antiX (based on Debian), is currently working on a systemd free version of
Jessie. Uses nonfree, however, they
the principle that Unix and GNU/Linux programs are supposed to be designed
to do one thing and do that one thing well.
... and GNU Emacs is a clear example of this principle. ;)
If that was the case, Upstart would have just been forked. The reason systemd
was developed is the initial developer of systemd didn't believe Upstart
ultimately did the job right, and figured it would be best to start over from
scratch.
This isn't really surprising. Microsoft seems to be throwing around a
lot of money at 'open source events'.
A few years ago I went along to a meeting for an Open Source Group at
my university. The organiser told the group that they received
AUD$20,000 in total from three sponsors, one being
Microsoft is just a big company like any other, they will find the best way
to make money on software even if it is to move to a Free software model.
They will fight and resist the move but they don't want to look like jerks
while it is happening - thus these sponsored events.
It is part of their plan and Microsoft is not alone. Microsoft, Google and
Apple all use the opensource community for their ideas, they take, take and
take more, then contribute little to nothing back. Google contributes some
back.
The end game for all three is for the opensource world
Microsoft wants to steal the headlines and look cool with the kids. Nowadays
embracing open-source is a PR stunt to make people see your company
positively.
Take Debian's newest release for example. Microsoft stole all the media
attention by sending the Debian team a birthday cake.
I have now seen the program and the first Microsoft guy seemed to be a
genuine good guy trying to do the best in the Microsoft world.
What I am happy about this is that customers to Microsoft want Linux and
Microsoft can no longer say no to them. Their customers isnt satisfied with
Oh and if you want the WebM file instead of Youtube, the direct link is
http://201406.jb-dl.cdn.scaleengine.net/las/2015/linuxactionshowep362-432p.webm
You will have to fast forward to the 24 minute and 13 second mark.
Linux Fest Northwest, which is a yearly conference in Washington state, has
grown a lot over the years. Not only in growth of attendees, but also
corporate sponsors. This year, one of the biggest sponsors and presence there
is Microsoft, which is giving off the impression that they heart
1.) Most of their code is under the MIT license
2.) I used Linux since the conference was named Linux Fest and when
GNU/Linux was referenced as a whole during the show and the interview, it was
just Linux so I kept the naming.
I guess a big part of it is fighting free software tooth and nail. They
realized they can't win so they try to water the thing down to open source.
What is implied are non-copyleft licenses or copyleft licenses that are
incompatible with the GPL. And calling the operating system Linux.
Hey Magic,
One is how quickly programs were tightly integrated into systemd, according
to some developers the integration was required. In other words, many
programs are so tightly integrated with systemd that if you remove systemd
those new programs will no longer work. I would qualify
Isn't there a rumor floating around that if Canonical was friendlier with
their Upstart CLAs that systemd wouldn't have been created? At the time, it
was considered to be better than SysV and even Red Hat adopted it for RHEL6
and CentOS 6.
Canonical has a habit of being really bad with
I've seen a lot of applications which depend on the X Window System. Does
this mean X is being forced on the community? I don't think so. Programmers
choose what other programs their programs depend on for all kinds of reasons,
but I don't think some sort of conspiracy to force the
It was/is based on the principle that Unix and GNU/Linux programs are
supposed to be designed to do one thing and do that one thing well. I really
don't see how GNU was supposed to be designed around the do one thing and do
it well thing. I don't think they care about anything other than
Interesting comparison, but not the same thing.
Systemd complaints are not based on a language or X Window System functions.
It was/is based on the principle that Unix and GNU/Linux programs are
supposed to be designed to do one thing and do that one thing well.
Systemd is a program that
According to that video I linked, they wooed people with food, beer, and
after parties to show how cool they are now.
I'd be curious if jxself or anyone else who is a part of this community went
to one of the Microsoft parties,
If Microsoft release complete programs under GPL I have no problem. But if
they release part of a program under GPL but that code is depended on
proprietary software or service I have a problem.
Microsoft is like a slimy boss or politician that tries to act like a buddy
or friend but you
I prefer if they stay far far away..
Embrace, extend, and extinguish.
I totally agree with SuperTramp83, for me it's like trying to destroy the
system from within... bad behavior/strategy
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