Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread postmodernhousewife
I'm not as techy as I'd like to be, so I'm using Android 'as is', and I'm not even remotely impressed. I hate the way the apps are hardboiled into the OS so that I can't delete them, and are using up precious memory instead of installing onto the SD card. I also hate the way Google

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread Andres Muniz
- Mensaje original - I agree. This idea of throwing away phones and tablets every couple of years    is just wasteful. Plus being able to extend the life of a device by replacing    a component just makes sense. I hope that idea comes to fruition. I'd really like a straight

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12-11-15 10:15 PM, ch...@thinkpenguin.com wrote: Everybody seems to be justifying non-free software because they want the latest toy. It's not a device that is becoming a necessity in the world in which we live. These are toys and as such I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12-11-17 04:17 AM, postmodernhousew...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not as techy as I'd like to be, so I'm using Android 'as is', and I'm not even remotely impressed. I hate the way the apps are hardboiled into the OS so that I can't delete them, and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread postmodernhousewife
Thanks for that... though you did read the bit about me not being techy, right? ... I have a tendency to break things! Is Cyagen idiotproof?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
On 17/11/12 09:17, postmodernhousew...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not as techy as I'd like to be, so I'm using Android 'as is', and I'm not even remotely impressed. I hate the way the apps are hardboiled into the OS so that I can't delete them, and are using up precious memory instead of installing

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread postmodernhousewife
(just an offtopic aside: in the profile it says my email will not be made public, but I'm seeing it in the quoted text here. Are you seeing it also? What is the deal with that? I'm all for transparency but so long as I know if my email is being published, I'd use a different one. )

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread matt . ivie
I would say that tablets mostly are toys. There are a few things you can do with them that they work well for. The most useful thing I can think of though is casual viewing of books, documents, movies, video clips, images, etc. You can't do much real work on them. You can do some

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread postmodernhousewife
Perhaps for most people they are toys, so I don't really want to disagree with you, but for me personally it would be a very useful tool, if I could get one with a sufficiently accurate touch screen and stylus. I've tried out a Wacom Cintiq years ago and the parallax in the thick glass was

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread chris
I'm no heavy user of of either although have run Replicant, Cyanogen, and Android versions to test functionality/usability/compare. Between this and what I have read Replicant is similar to Trisquel in that its main purpose is to provide a version of the operating system that is free of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread chris
I was using it for a short while. There are some major issues with it for everyday use. I have to say it works better than the Freerunner did the last time I investigated it. I don't know how the GTA04 compares. GTA04 is a board for the Freerunner case. It is not the kind of thing most

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread chris
You might want to change it. Maintain a web site, project, etc is a lot of work. The project doesn't have enough money to properly fund development. Even little changes require time. There are a lot of little changes. The default text for which the site is based says something to the effect

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread chris
I completely agree. Potential useful they are. Critical no. Are there any tablets that work well? I haven't encountered one. As I stated above I'm not perfect either and I'm heavily focused on improving the situation. I definitely think people here are making exceptions for the sake of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread postmodernhousewife
It might not be essential, but you could also suggest that novelists go back to typewriters, accountants use slide-rules and we all go back to reading a paper map instead of using a GPS. Well not much wrong with the last suggestion but the point is PRODUCTIVITY. Photographing each step of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-17 Thread postmodernhousewife
Yes that text definitely needs to be changed. It's so misleading.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-16 Thread postmodernhousewife
Yeah I love the replace-the-card idea. IMHO this is the way forward for hardware - we can't keep disposing of entire machines. A truly green machine with upgradable components is the way to go.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-16 Thread matt . ivie
I agree. This idea of throwing away phones and tablets every couple of years is just wasteful. Plus being able to extend the life of a device by replacing a component just makes sense. I hope that idea comes to fruition. I'd really like a straight GNU/Linux tablet. As stated before, I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread chris
Regardless of it being the least dependent on non-free software I can't justify to myself recommending a toy in a free software forum that is still extremely hostile towards users freedoms. I'd have less of an issue with this if ZaReason cared about free software. There actions don't suggest

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread chris
I'd highly encourage people to hold off on the tablets and Raspberry Pi type devices. If you can get away without a cell phone do it. Cell phones are tracking devices and also dependent on a lot of non-free software. These devices are all extremely hostile to users freedom. If you don't

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread onpon4
I feel inclined to mention that, while there is not a completely free OS for it (GNU/Linux with mainline Linux is used), the OpenPandora mostly gets the hardware fine. It's only dependent on nonfree software for 3D and WiFi (and the WiFi is easily solved if you just get a USB 2.0 Wifi dongle

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
On 13/11/12 07:42, mattij.la...@kolumbus.fi wrote: There is the Vivaldi tablet project. Project page: http://makeplaylive.com/ Forums: http://opentablets.org/ Main developer's Blog: http://aseigo.blogspot.fi/ They are making a GNU/Linux tablet that should be fully free software compatible.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
Rhombus-Tech are making progress on a KDE Tablet. There are also in talks with the FSF in doing a fund-raising campaign like they did for Media Goblin. There will be an Free Software compatible card that has an attractive spec of 1.2GHz 1 core CPU and 2GB RAM, if I remember correctly. The tablet

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread chris
That would be great.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread chris
Everybody seems to be justifying non-free software because they want the latest toy. It's not a device that is becoming a necessity in the world in which we live. These are toys and as such I can't accept it. I'm not perfect although I will resist. I'm not going to pick up a tablet until

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-14 Thread tobias
I have an OLinuXino single board computer running Debian / Android dual-boot. Android uses a proprietery bootloader, debian uses the free u-boot. Linux-libre is not ported yet. First I had to uninstall the flash-player in Android, then I installed f-droid. I won't buy a tablet until Vivaldi is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-13 Thread chris
Vivaldi was earlier known as the Spark tablet. They were trying to free the bits. Things didn't move fast enough... now they have to get a new tablet (If I recall everything correctly).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-13 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 12-11-13 01:50 AM, daemo...@orcon.net.nz a écrit : Also, I personally don't think Android is that amazing. Maybe it's okay for a smaller device like a phone. I'm also not very fond of Android... And a lot of phones now have enough power to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-13 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 12-11-13 12:35 AM, nathan...@lavabit.com a écrit : I don't have any information to add, but I'd just like to say that I'd love a device capable of running the Calibre ebook reader. No DRM, no hassle, I just want to be able to copy my Calibre

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-13 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 12-11-12 11:26 PM, andrew.rof...@student.qut.edu.au a écrit : It seems like the idea of having a GNU/Linux tablet is really gaining momentum. I have been hoping for a really good one to come along that can run GNU/Linux and run using only

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-13 Thread aliasbody
I am trying to get enough money to repair my old and broken netbook in order to transform it on a tablet. That could be a good idea for Trisquel and for ThinkPengiun as well. A tablet with Atom CPU would be awesome with Trisquel :D And it may be easier to have working than an ARM one no ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-13 Thread hharding04
I would recommend either the Wikireader or the Ben Nanonote. The Wikireader comes with a touchscreen, but the Nanonote comes with more freedom. Either of them should be able to run some type of e-book program.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-13 Thread chris
ZaReason like everyone else ships a lot of hardware dependent on non-free software. Unless your thinking about buying an iPad I wouldn't reccomend this.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-13 Thread chris
Netbooks are dead. Can't help you there. That said we could have easily shipped a product at one time as there were chipsets and configurations which were not dependent on non-free code. That makes it much easier to do.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-13 Thread nasrullah1983
Hi to all of you , It is a very nice idea to have a tablet device running Trisquel.; it should be done very soon as Christmas and new year is approaching doing the marketing of such product is a right time.oncerning I have shifted from Ubuntu to Trisquel recently we do need more gadgets

[Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-12 Thread matt . ivie
It seems like the idea of having a GNU/Linux tablet is really gaining momentum. I have been hoping for a really good one to come along that can run GNU/Linux and run using only free software. A very prominent chipset being used is the Allwinner A10 SoC. Does anyone know what the freedom

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-12 Thread andrew . roffey
It seems like the idea of having a GNU/Linux tablet is really gaining momentum. I have been hoping for a really good one to come along that can run GNU/Linux and run using only free software. Well there is Replicant which is based on CyanogenMod and aims to only ship with free software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-12 Thread matt . ivie
I'm currently running Replicant on my Nexus S. There are a lot of things about it I don't like. For one, there are no real good hardware candidates to use that have good privacy. The other is that getting everything to work on the phone using only free software is not currently possible.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-12 Thread nathangnu
I don't have any information to add, but I'd just like to say that I'd love a device capable of running the Calibre ebook reader. No DRM, no hassle, I just want to be able to copy my Calibre Library into the home directly, and I'd love to pay for such a device. Perhaps I could get what I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-12 Thread Daemonax
Also, I personally don't think Android is that amazing. Maybe it's okay for a smaller device like a phone. I'm also not very fond of Android... And a lot of phones now have enough power to run something better. I recently got a Galaxy Note II, which I think is actually more powerful than

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-12 Thread mattij . lammi
There is the Vivaldi tablet project. Project page: http://makeplaylive.com/ Forums: http://opentablets.org/ Main developer's Blog: http://aseigo.blogspot.fi/ They are making a GNU/Linux tablet that should be fully free software compatible. The project has had some setbacks recently though.