Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-19 Thread moilami
It is not a reason good enough to blacklist Free Software because it is buggy. I don't understand why VRMS is blacklisted. It is an attack to Free Speech to blacklist VRMS. I remember using years ago VRMS just for fun. I saw it was buggy, but it did not matter because I never considered it

[Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread aliasbody
Hello Everyone, I was thinking if there was any kind of script to remove all the non-free software on Ubuntu ? That kind of script could be used to speed up the Trisquel development only giving the work of adapting something that is not available yet on Ubuntu. I would like to know that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread aliasbody
I didn't knew about that page, sorry about that :S.. And thanks for the information :D

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread wsetgmkp3pqwepaqwxcu
where you able to make Ubuntu 12.10 free?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread wsetgmkp3pqwepaqwxcu
That is for changing Ubuntu 10.04 to Trisquel 4.0. Please can you tell updated script link. Thanks

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread wsetgmkp3pqwepaqwxcu
to make ubuntu 12.10 free, is following the procedure on that page the only way? Is there a way to find out what non-free is there in ubuntu 12.10 and then removing it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread aliasbody
I didn't try it yet, but I was thinking of something like vrms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrms) but with a lot of changes. Or a little bit like the your-freedom package like in Parabola GNU/Linux, with just the need for a simple repository with all the files that need to be changed and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
Yes please! On 18/10/12 21:02, aliasb...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't try it yet, but I was thinking of something like vrms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrms) but with a lot of changes. Or a little bit like the your-freedom package like in Parabola GNU/Linux, with just the need for a simple

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread wsetgmkp3pqwepaqwxcu
yes, that will be very nice. Even if possible that ubuntu 12.10 can be cleaned to be free, that is enough for me. I use few softwares and if needed will compile updates from source.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread wsetgmkp3pqwepaqwxcu
Atleast first basic would be to replace kernel with linux-libre and find if things are working proper. Hope ubuntu12.10 did not add non-free dependence too much. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_libre#Effects_of_removing_proprietary_firmware

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread aliasbody
For this we have a lot of solution, but the best I see is the Trisquel Solution, as in : Use the same kernel (but the libre version) and change what is needed to change (and this can really be a hard work to do for a little team). But something like the Parabola Gnu/Linux method is quite

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread aliasbody
I know about that (I saw it on wikipedia before trying it xD). This is why I was talking about a modified version of vrms. A version that would respect the name that it stands for. I will try to see how it works and what can be done, but to me it was the most promising solution for a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread aliasbody
[Information_outside_topic] I don't want to be mean but... Ubuntu is getting really ugly in all terms :S... I use to love this distribution that made me (and a lot of people) came to Gnu/Linux, but this is just ridicule, just have a look: - We have the Amazon Icon the Unity's bar that opens

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread aliasbody
You are right... I start to looking at this from a point and then, after removing all the problems, I came to the conclusion that everything as already been done :s... I even found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu-libre, I've tried it myself (enabling it before starting up the USB

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
I don't like ubuntu also. with there polices. For example restricted boot. fedora did a better job than ubuntu. However I want my Gnome-shell and Tribler. Ubuntu is more stable then Debian unstable, by the looks of things. Though I am looking at Debian unstable and aptosid. Trying to decide if

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread aliasbody
Well I have to be honest with you. I didn't tried a lot of Distributions for Server, but the ones I've tried, I have to say that, if you want something easy to use then use Trisquel, if you want something a little bit harder but better customization, then use Parabola Gnu/Linux. I would

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread nospamhere
This is just my opinion, but I never liked Ubuntu, not even from its earliest days. It was always too buggy. (Although, if you get a black screen at boot, editing the modeset on the kernel command line in grub.cfg will usually give graphical windows.) The only thing I learned from Ubuntu

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread aliasbody
I could make a long post explaining the problem with Ubuntu but I will do this in that way : Ubuntu = OsX + Windows + Bugs + Debian If I could make charts you will see that there was more of Bugs and OsX than Debian but it is good enough to see how this works :D But really, I have an

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
Sorry. I should have said I was talking about ubuntu base but with with non-free contamination removed. I didn't say Trisquel because of the context of a script to decontaminate ubuntu. Re Parabola. I might try it on my newish main monster PC. So thanks for the offer. This ant a webserver

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread andrew . roffey
Before Trisquel I used Debian. Despite the software being a little old, it worked well for me. I think that for non-technical users it would probably be fine to use (as long as they have someone to install and do upgrades - like most Windows users). I know people who happily use old

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread aliasbody
And I respect totally that :D I always say that, if any community should be applauded to the work and dedication, it should be the Debian Community (by community I mostly want to say Developers). It works on every Kernel (Gnu/Linux, Gnu/Hurd, BSD), it works on every computer and piece of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread andrew . roffey
Wheezy's still in testing, but I think it should be out early next year. The freeze was a few months ago. I think the Testing is normally releases ~6 months after freeze, give or take. Debian is great, and they have a large community. But one of the main things I didn't like was that some

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread aliasbody
I thought it was already in the stable line :s I can't use the version 6 of Debian because of the kernel, my Asus 1215N needs at least the kernel 3.0 to work properly, but now that I use Parabola and Trisquel this isn't really and issue :D I really would love to see a totally free

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread andrew . roffey
That's a pity you couldn't install Debian, but it's good that you are happily running Parabola and Trisquel. Linux is always improving... For anyone that likes Debian (or uses MIPS), watch this space: http://www.gnewsense.org/ gNS 3.0 will be based on Squeeze. Two alpha releases of gNS 3.0

Re: [Trisquel-users] Script to remove nonfree software from Ubuntu

2012-10-18 Thread andrew . roffey
Regarding amd64, an installer for alpha 1 was made available: http://beta.gnewsense.org/gnewsense-three/installer/3.0-alpha1/ So I would assume that the final version would also have a build for amd64. :)