I just tried Xfce to help solve another problem of mine. It was a big
disappointment; it looked nothing like the fantastic stuff I've seen so far.
I agree with Heather. Eye candy is overrated, in my opinion.
I've also used fluxbox for many years.
I understand that it might not be the best 'default' WM, especially for
Windoze converts. I also understand that people who use Fluxbox for awhile
come to appreciate it's power and
After installing Cinnamon from ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable , GDM
offers me the choice of running 2D or 3D Cinnamon.
There is one freedom-related issue to be careful about. I just noticed that
if you add the Cinnamon PPA (ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable), it
does make one proprietary package available: nemo-dropbox.
The package description states Installing this package will download the
Damn. Thanks for noticing!
What exactly is the command to install Xfce, and will there be any side
effects?
sudo apt-get install xfce4
You'll get programs that don't work well in GNOME, and settings options that
are completely irrelevant in GNOME (only have an effect in Xfce), but other
than that and being able to use Xfce, no effect.
Or you could try this one http://trisquel-users.com/trisquel-downloads/
The Cinnamon version looks pretty badass.
One year ago I did some changes on Xubuntu 11.10.[1][2]
[1]
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/are-there-any-alpha-or-beta-images-55-test#comment-16462
[2] http://ompldr.org/vY3FjYw
I agree. I've been using Cinnamon with Trisquel 6 for about a week now, and
I really, really like it.
Looks like plus many for Cinnamon; let's see what I can do with the
image on trisquel-users.com
How feature complete is Cinnamon if you compare it to Gnome 2 and Gnome 3?
Is there some particular tradeoff or pitfall?
Color me interested.
It's pretty solid. I'm pretty sure it requires 3D.
t3g
Again the Cinnamon desktop is a personnel interpretation and of course you
can set it up as you wish.
I would support this idea. Xfce reminds me of the beautiful desktop of OS X,
minus the annoying feature of clicking the red x not actually closing the
window.
Uhhh didnt know that that ppa works in Trisquel 6/ Ubuntu 12.04..i must to
test!XD
Until now, only free video drivers work with Wayland. :-)
I dont Know why but but is awesome new :D
Thank you for info banana ;)
Regards.
Xlash.
The only definition I can think of is 'incomplete'. The only native
application, besides the environment itself, is their file manager. They need
more and I'm counting on it for E18.
It is not very easy to modify it in the sense you won't screw it up by
accident like you could delete the
Here is a video of the latest version of e17 (which I'm using on all my
computers including on the Neo Freerunner which runs the mobile version of
this on Debian) which looks much better in my opinion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHJuMuMXjlE
e17 would also work well if Trisquel wants to
The only definition I can think of is 'incomplete'. The only native
application, besides the environment itself, is their file manager.
e17 also has its own connection manager which uses connman (called econnman).
Thank you for that link, I'll try it.
Did you do that .ISO?
Why did you select that menu bar style as default?
I know it can be changed, but I think that a Trisquel 7 with XFCE should look
as similar as it looks on gnome fallback, wich in my opinion (as a 20 years
windows user, who is
MATE 1.4 is running quite well on my laptop with Trisquel 6.0. I think it
would be a good choice. However, default desktop environment isn't a big
deal to me since I'm going to install my preference anyway and customize it
the way I like.
The .iso was built using the net installer.
There has been a lot of talk in different post about desktops and it is
obvious that there a quite a lot of people who would like an alternative.
I believe that the developer should concentrate on one or two distributions
but that alternative
Thanks you. I will test this night :D
Aha, well, so, thank you, I'll install your Trisquel 6 XFCE iso, and I'll try
to make it the more accurate to Trisquel's default enviroment.
Some screenshots coming soon!
The website has only just been launched so any comments (including about the
site) good or bad or suggested altrations will be welcome.
Mr. Boat - once you have got some screen shots will be happy to put them on
the website.
I'm going to test out Bodhi Linux and get a feel for Enlightenment. Chances
are good I will love it.
Of course, Bodhi doesn't have a policy of only including free software.
Another possible benefit of a well-configured Enlightenment desktop in
Trisquel is that Trisquel could say we run Enlightnment. There are very few
distros that use it, and only Bodhi and Elive are (semi) well known.
My personal preference is Fluxbox, which is already in the reps for both
standard and mini and I appreciate that. Eye candy gets old fast around here,
but it's nice to have a choice. I used multiple DEs when I was running Ubuntu,
depending on my mood, what I needed to accomplish that day, and
Le Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:27:10 +0100 (CET),
roep...@lavabit.com a écrit :
Who's with me?
Xfce can be configured to appear and function nearly identically to
the current DE, without much of a feature loss.
Since Xfce is (relatively) lighter than GNOME classic, it would make
it easier to
Xfce is a good choice if one is looking for a stable and basic desktop
environment which can also provide eye candy via compiz (but it isn't
integrated with Xfce's settings). If one also wants optional eye candy and a
lightweight desktop environment, perhaps enlightenment/e17 would fit
All Intel chipsets and most nVidia cards handle 3D acceleration. Reasonably
modern CPUs hardware can run GNOME Shell (the recent versions of it) with
software rendering (thanks to llvmpipe) thanks to the work started more than
one year ago for Fedora 17... and that has already reached the
Enlightenment is a window manager, not a full DE, and it's a
counter-intuitive one at that. Avoid.
You're certainly free to install LXDE and boot into that. But keeping the
Mini edition to the same standard of stability as the main edition has always
been a tall order for this project. It's always been riddled with bugs and
oversights, in the versions I've tested.
By Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, AMD might even jump on the bandwagon and offer fully
libre 3D accelaration for their GPUs, too. That would seal the deal for us.
E16 was a window manager. E17 is a half DE. I mean half as it is the first
release to have the intention of being a DE, although they lack a lot of
common apps (but the underlying software (libs etc) is ready already).
I think that E18 by the end of this year will be suited for desktop use as
much as other DE's.
Here are some neat things you can do with E17 right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82_uNoeVkQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=643OKIZtY9w
XFCE would get my vote, Using Gnome Classic just makes things feel old.
I'm going to be open-minded and watch the videos. Enlightenment is the one I
probably know the least about ... I've been avoiding it.
Everyone has his preferences about the DE. I like xfce, too, but it's easy to
install and difficult for developers to mantain many trisquel versions.
I think a GNOME and a LXDE official versions are enough, at least with
current development posibilities.
This is my Trisquel 6 with xfce,
XFCE and LXDE are good candidates for the next Trisquel de. Maybe
consort will be ready and worth a look, too?
XFCE? Eww
No, you've got me wrong.
I am recommending REPLACING the current DE with Xfce. If my idea were
implemented, that would make the current LXDE-based Trisquel Mini edition a
moot point (yes I know it's even lighter, but it just ain't worth it). So,
that's one LESS edition of Trisquel to
Give me some examples.
Is LXDE really mature enough to be the main Trisquel DE, though?
Like it or not, a genuinely lightweight desktop environment is generally a
recipe for a second-rate user experience. One uses LXDE because she must.
Xfce is more lightweight-ish, with most of the visual candy, features, and
xfce is a very good option for those who like a classic desktop, but I'm
afraid that many people here would prefer gnome-shell, unity or KDE.
And being trisquel oriented to a generic final user, I think one of the
great DE it's a better choice as default desktop.
GNOME 3 Shell requires 3D KMS on your computer to work properly. Not everyone
who runs Linux-libre has that, specifically not people with Radeon GPUs.
Ditto with Unity (and it's even heavier).
KDE is a classic desktop, but it's not a good option for more subtle reasons
(let's start with the
Personally i prefer Gnome shell. Its becoming an strong DE, easy, powerfull
and pretty. I think we have to move forward and continue evolving.
Andrew why not everyone can use that without going into cruddy fallback mode?
because 3D hardware acceleration is needed to run?
Any ways this is
Personally i prefer Gnome shell. Its becoming an strong DE, easy, powerfull
and pretty. I think we have to move forward and continue evolving.
I share your view. I use GNOME shell and like it more than anything else.
It's becoming quite mature now. It is the way forward. We need to ignore
About customization.. in my opinion is secondary, people should see it that
is better an stable and, as you said, mature DE. Any ways Gnome Developers
they receive lot of coments about that and i think they do something after
deliber a very nice DE.
If im not wrong exist a package named
I agree, customization is secondary to a good out-of-the-box user experience
for the largest number of users. Not all of us are named Linus Torvalds (he
currently uses Xfce, btw). I use GNOME 3 with a fairy small number of
extensions ... I have little need to customize it, because it is
The main benefit of Consort (fork of GNOME Fallback) over MATE (fork or GNOME
2) is that it isn't forking everything; it's supposedly going to stay in sync
with GNOME 3 while adding in things that were in GNOME 2. Also, MATE still
uses GTK 2, Consort will use GTK 3 (as GNOME 3 does).
By fork of GNOME Fallback, are you referring to Consort? I haven't
yet tried it. Have a look at http://solusos.com; I think they have an
Alpha ready for testing?
My point is that a lot of people would prefer to use GNOME Shell if they can.
That means some users boot into the classic desktop experience based on
Fallback, and others opt into the fairly different GNOME Shell.
Maybe that's a feature and not a problem. I hope that switching to GNOME
Yesterday I wrote that Xfce didn't have desktop documentation, but it turns
out I was wrong. Xfce /does/ have offline documentation.
I'm not going to say yeah, let's switch to Xfce straight away because maybe
there's features in GNOME that maybe other people use that Xfce doesn't have,
and
The default Xfce theme can be changed to look _a lot_ like GNOME (if that's
the reason for the bad reaction).
A lot of Xfce themes are GTK+2-only, so they make GNOME 3 apps look ugly. But
there's a theme called Clearlooks-Phenix that Xfce users can use, and it
includes styles for both
Yeah, having a good calendar functionality is important.
Recently, Xfce has switched to mainly online documentation, in a wiki format.
I would argue that this is the way of the future: collaborative online
documentation. Should we be assuming the possibility that the user doesn't
have an
Off the top of my head I know at least a few people who don't stay connected
to the internet 24/7. And wi-fi firmware support in Trisquel isn't great
either.
I did some more searching around on their lists and found these:
http://blog.xfce.org/2012/01/documentation-wiki/
Whatever we do, I think it'd be better to keep the long-standing Trisquel
look (which is largely borrowed from Elementary), or at least a facsimile of
it.
Clearlooks-Phenix looks WAY too vanilla.
I know it was broken in 5.5, but can Unity be installed in 6 and does it show
up in the login screen?
Le 2013-03-14 21:57, tegskywal...@hotmail.com a écrit :
I know it was broken in 5.5, but can Unity be installed in 6 and does
it show up in the login screen?
What do you mean by it was broken in 5.5? I had Brigantia w/ Unity
running fine on my netbook, with lightdm as the login screen, before I
Of course! :-) I only mentioned Clealooks-Phenix as an example of how Xfce
can be made to look like a GNOME theme.
Yeah, Shiki looks very nice.
It wasn't broken in 5.5; I was able to run it just fine, though I couldn't
for the life of me figure out how to get the window menus on the panel
(something I don't care about, though, because I don't like Unity).
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