[Trisquel-users] Re : Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
The argument is that the user achieves a work with the manual or the text book (unlike with art) and must be allowed to do whatever she wishes with it. That includes commercial activities. That is why a license that prohibits commercial usage is non-free. More generally, any do no evil

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread shiretoko
that's a bad idea for visually disabled people.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread legimet . calc
AKA moderators.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread mcz
Oh, got it (at last). Thanks, for the audio links also.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Often trying to keep everyone on the same tree, insynch, is more trouble than it's worth. For one it creates a situation where everyone is waiting for the other people to implement feature X, and then feature X never gets done. For seconds it creates _enormous_ tension around the question

[Trisquel-users] Re : Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
One fuck per line. Tourette syndrome?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread legimet . calc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_mining#Notable_uses

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Fuck You. I FORKED XONOTIC TWO YEARS AGO YOU FUCK. I am NOT beholden to the will of your CUNT masses you fucking PIECE OF SHIT. I DO NOT HAVE TO CONVINCE ANYONE AS I FUCKING CODE THE SHIT DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS YOU FUCK.

[Trisquel-users] Re : MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
I was talking about Darkplaces. Anyway, I have better things to do that answer insults. And I invite anyone to downvote your insults so that our forum looks welcoming to newcomers.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
ChaosEsque has forked Darkplaces aswell: we stay on a branch that works equally well with old intel gfx because we don't want to throw people under the bus, something swine like you don't understand. We patch it from time to time, and sometimes add small features of our own, but mainly

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread tomlukeywood
Suggestion: this has been mentioned before on this forum to stop the problem of inappropriate posts what about having some users who have been on the fourm for a while that have the power to move inappropriate posts to the troll hole if they ever abuse this power it should be taken off them

[Trisquel-users] Re : Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
For the same reason as for software. Text books and manuals aim to achieve a work. They enter the same category as software. You can watch rms' conference Copyright vs. community for the whole argument: http://audio-video.gnu.org

Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker
Can someone move this to Troll Hole please?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker
I rarely stick up for Magic, but how is he a data-mining piece of shit from his history on here? He is actually one of the more vocal free software, free culture, and privacy-focused people on here. Your rants actually make me want to play Xonotic less. I only tried it a few times in the

Re: [Trisquel-users] the Ubuntu Software Center will go to /dev/null

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker
I think they want to move everything to Snappy with Click packages. These packages are all-in-one which will include the dependencies along with the software in one package. http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] the Ubuntu Software Center will go to /dev/null

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker
At the age of 22 Shuttleworth founded Thawte, a digital certificate and internet security company which he sold to VeriSign for $575 million in 1999, when he was 26. He used a fraction of his wealth to start HBD Capital (now called Knife Capital), a Cape Town-based emerging markets

[Trisquel-users] Re : Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
Just like systemd/linux, mozilla needs to be forked You are ridiculously funny. You create multiple posts to insult me because you believe I did not understand that your game is a fork of Xonotic (I was actually suggesting you to go on with the development of Darkplaces) and you do not see

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
If that does not work, you can try to find other developers who share your opinions and fork. Hi, yellow log. You are smugly speaking as if this is in the future, and you won't find any developers, hahahhaha, you're powerless That FUTURE you are suggesting will never happen, did happen.

Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
You assume I will never find out who you are and take revenge for you trying to hide my words.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Mozilla is not a friend anymore. Nor is Linux post-systemd. Mozilla is about two things today: advertisement and progressive (feminist/lgbt) politics. Not classical free software. This explains their actions. Just like systemd/linux, mozilla needs to be forked (and it has been: palemoon

[Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread david
It would seem that the quality of this forum has been suffering from some way too personal agenda for some time, with some very evident examples in the last hours. While we decide what to do about it, I've taken some measures to clean things up a bit. We will study the situation carefully

[Trisquel-users] Re : Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
This strongly suggests you have javascript enabled. I do. The JavaScript on the Trisquel website is free software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
See. You do not care about security. Javascript runs on your computer. Not the server. It uses your CPU, and it could be anything from one day to another. Just because the it's coming from trisquel.info does not mean that it's from the trisquel.info admins. It can do anything (sandboxes

Re: [Trisquel-users] the Ubuntu Software Center will go to /dev/null

2015-08-25 Thread blade . vp2020
The move away from X... its the end of Ubuntu ! hay x must dai It is much like Malformation in The face of Princess

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
I don't really understand why the Tor Browser uses firefox. How can something that churns so often be secure?

Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
You do not have better things to do. What do you produce other than logs and yellow?

Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
If that does not work, you can try to find other developers who share your opinions and fork. Hi, yellow log. You are smugly speaking as if this is in the future, and you won't find any developers, hahahhaha, you're powerless That FUTURE you are suggesting will never happen, did happen.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Hope you get one in the back of the head, data-mining piece of shit.

Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
It is XONOTIC that is ditching Darkplaces you IDIOT. What good would forking Darkplaces do? (And yes, ChaosEsque does maintain a small fork of Darkplaces which retains compatability with old intel gfx gear, so lol anyway).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
I am French but live in Belo Horizonte (Brazil), where I am a university professor. My research deals with data-mining. I mainly study the extraction of closed patterns in n-dimensional data. Check out my website: http://dcc.ufmg.br/~lcerf Yay datamining: aka spying. Hmm the other

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker
I have tried Nexuiz/Xonotic in the past, but I was honestly not that impressed. Maybe its because I played the original Quake 3 back in 1999 or so and moved on. Nowadays, I would rather play something like CS: Global Offensive or Team Fortress 2. Yeah, I know they are non-free games, but the

Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Going to tell us to fork anything else? Because so far you are zero for 2. YEP We forked Xonotic (Bigtime). YEP We forked Darkplaces (just alittle, but we like to keep compat with old intel hardware and dabble in adding small features once in a blue moon, and ofcourse adding patches that are

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Going to tell us to fork anything else? Because so far you are zero for 2. YEP We forked Xonotic (Bigtime). YEP We forked Darkplaces (just alittle, but we like to keep compat with old intel hardware and dabble in adding small features once in a blue moon, and ofcourse adding patches that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Going to tell us to fork anything else? Because so far you are zero for 2. YEP We forked Xonotic (Bigtime). YEP We forked Darkplaces (just alittle, but we like to keep compat with old intel hardware and dabble in adding small features once in a blue moon, and ofcourse adding patches that

Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
ChaosEsque has forked Darkplaces aswell: we stay on a branch that works equally well with old intel gfx because we don't want to throw people under the bus, something swine like you don't understand. We patch it from time to time, and sometimes add small features of our own, but mainly

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker
I know what data mining is.

Re: [Trisquel-users] the Ubuntu Software Center will go to /dev/null

2015-08-25 Thread tomlukeywood
Just as SystemD forced march is the end of linux. apt-get install sysvinit systemd- also: http://devuan.org/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread legimet . calc
Data mining can be used for for spying. It can also be used for other purposes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_mining#Notable_uses.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
FREESOFTWARE IS ALL ABOUT GETTING MORE DEVELOPERS Free software is about users controlling the software. If most users want the program to evolve in a way, then it will. That is a democratic development. You can disagree with what the majority wants. You can try to convince the developers

Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread mcz
The audio is very long, and goes through the history of copyright, DRM etc. What's the argument that applies here, in a nutshell? Software can be malware, but a book can't. It's just not the same category to me. (You seem to differentiate text books and manuals from say, a novel or a comic, but

[Trisquel-users] Re : Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
What temporary measures did you take? Did you only remove the posts or did you ban the offending user? In the latter case, prepare to receive death threats in your mailbox. Like I did... That is the problem with moderation. The moderators suffer all the bad consequences. In particular,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread nicolasmaia
A good idea to stop spam is to enable captcha as well.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread legimet . calc
MikeeUSA/Gregory Smith/Mikhail Kvaratskhelia/no2systemd/vPro/chaosesqueteam is banned from this forum for the second time. https://trisquel.info/en/users/chaosesqueteam

Re: [Trisquel-users] Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens
Personally I think this looks bad on Applebaum. I've tried to refrain from criticizing him over it for a variety of reasons. One I didn't actually know if he really did take money from Todd and provide advisement early on.. but even if he did I'm not sure thats a crime in my book to begin with.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread martin
You should use the rating system rather than delete posts. We shouldn't rely on privileged users to delete posts they consider unappropriated.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread legimet . calc
The forum nesting also seems to be destroyed in multi-page threads. I think I agree with onpon4, the nesting should be removed.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 10 has the power to remotely disable software and hardware if necessary

2015-08-25 Thread jason
Windows has always been bad but windows 10 takes the cake lol. Maybe for now as the current king of the badness hill, so to speak, but just wait until it's dethroned with the next major release of Windows, though. I'd bet you'll be eating those words as it becomes even worse.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread gramex
I agree. I'd rather have some more advanced forum software here like PHPBB or Simple Machines, anyway.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread chris
Personally I think this looks bad on Applebaum. I've tried to refrain from criticizing him over it for a variety of reasons. One I didn't actually know if he really did take money from Todd and provide advisement early on.. but even if he did I'm not sure thats a crime in my book to begin

Re: [Trisquel-users] Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread chris
Cinnamon + Trisquel is actually a pretty good combination potentially. Presuming you don't break easy-upgrading Cinnamon provides an easy to use free software friendly solution. Better in some respects than what we have with pure Trisquel. That said Rubén had good reasons to go the route

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Updates: Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque) version 57 etc.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
More spells. Per-team start spells. Bots know how to use spells. Menu options. Better model for knight. Weapon replace with scrolls and medeval weapons mutator. Monster fixes. The better spell support is a significant addition. You really can scourge dungeons now if you wish. ISO Download:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread jabjabs
This goes for pretty much everyone in most fields. It is wise to never put anyone on a pedestal but merely look for inspiration from the good things they do. It is somewhat like the advice that one should never meet their idols as will lead to disappointment when the flaws are presented.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread Dave Hunt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 And it would disable mailing list access. On 08/25/2015 01:22 PM, shiret...@web.de wrote: that's a bad idea for visually disabled people. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1

[Trisquel-users] Re : Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
But magic banana says for a libre-game we have to non-commercialy redistribute doom/doom II to our neighbour/friend? You do not have to. But you must me free to do so. Isn't that Unauthorised copying? An ethical license would authorize it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-25 Thread shiretoko
I read the description and it definitly says that it will send SMS messages - no internet connection requiered. So no, it's not textsecure. I also wonder why textsecure doesn't show up in fdroid. Does anyone have a solution?

[Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Xonotic is about to commit a disgusting treason. This was recorded in trepidation of their disloyalty http://youtu.be/4KbTBLRDJ9s http://opengameart.org/content/the-disgorgement-of-darkplaces ChaosEsque, ofcourse, will remain true.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Xonotic is ditching DarkPlaces, kicking LordHavoc to the curb and saying fk you for all his help. (source, Mario informing of this. http://opengameart.org/forumtopic/chaosesque-anthology-opensourcefree-fps-standalone-mod-of-xonotic-released?page=3

Re: [Trisquel-users] Software Updater proceeds without authentication

2015-08-25 Thread amenex
Software Updater installed updates for Icecat and an english-language pack this morning without asking for authentication. No mention of security ... Should I care ? Does anyone care ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
What are your thoughts on systemd? Are you the librem guy or the not-lying-about-things lin laptop seller?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
I have no problem with systemd and I have problem with Intel AMT and vPro. Intentional Hardware backdoor bad New windows-like hypervisor forced on all linux (l)users with complexity to all-but-ensure accidental backdoors... fine Same government is paying for both. And I will down-vote any

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Of course it is OK. Any development team is free to make whatever technical choice looks better. And you are free to fork (and see whether other developers join you, which I doubt). HAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAH! Oh look If you don't like it FORK You think that's an insult, a diss, a oh you can't do

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Hey look at this guy! Telling ChaosEsque Anthology to Fork form Xonotic! AHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAH LIKE ITS A THREAT AHHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! And you are free to fork (and see whether other developers join you, which I doubt).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread franparpe
GLOOM is awesome, at least I can play those zdoom wads that I love so much!!! Thank you a lot for letting us know that this engine exists :) (I tried gzdoom mods but no zdoom at the moment)

[Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Magic Banana said: Of course it is OK. Any development team is free to make whatever technical choice looks better. And you are free to fork (and see whether other developers join you, which I doubt). Get this. Magic Banana is telling ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic. Now. Here. In 2015 August.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Ofcourse a snake in the grass would think stabbing someone in the back is fine. You make all your money by manipulating the financial system too, right?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-25 Thread franparpe
Thank you very much, now I have to make a difficult decision: I've been trying conversations with a Jappix xmpp account and I've loved it but Kontalk seems very easy to setup specially for my non-tech friends... Mmmm

[Trisquel-users] Re : Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
Of course it is OK. Any development team is free to make whatever technical choice looks better. And you are free to fork (and see whether other developers join you, which I doubt).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread tegskywalker
This is one of the main problems with FLOSS in general. There are a lot of egos in a meritocracy and no one really wants to work together. This results in forking the software and now there are multiple versions of pretty much the same thing with smaller dev teams. I've noticed that unless

[Trisquel-users] Re : Appelbaum on hardware on debian

2015-08-25 Thread lcerf
I have no problem with systemd and I have problem with Intel AMT and vPro. And I will down-vote any of your subsequent posts on that topic which has nothing to do with the thread (besides the fact that you have already shown us multiple times that you do not understand nor want to understand

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is this Librem13 fully free this time?

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Do you think the Russians will backdoor it like Intel has backdoored our CPUs? Why is it that there is no revenge for this, what Intel has done?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is this Librem13 fully free this time?

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Looks like I got chris mixed up with the librem guy. Anyway the above is perhaps what the librem crew discussed. Not thinkpenguin.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Is this OK? To use and then ditch someone who helped you, and dump their engine (it is fully free software, ofcourse, not like they're moving from non-free to free)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-25 Thread mcz
I see, thanks quantumgravity. Telegram is fine, though I'd love a setting that uses the encrypted communication by default. I mean if we can encrypt, why use the unencrypted version?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread mcz
I once turned down an offer to write a book on Python programming because of this principle and the publisher's unwillingness to make the book available under a libre culture license. The funny thing is that these proprietary books end up on the web anyway. A semi-libre option might have been

Re: [Trisquel-users] Xonotic stabs engine developer in the back.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
I work every day on my little corner: http://lgdb.org/game/chaosesque-anthology (Named by the (then, 2 yrs ago) main dev of Xonotic when I consulted with him what I should call it) I'm told I'm a piece of shit because I'm against feminism and pro marry-girl-children (allowed in Deuteronomy

Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Here's something completely free: http://lgdb.org/game/chaosesque-anthology It has both medeval and tech maps. (Q3 map format) There are over 100 maps. I made 1/2 of them. Enjoy. http://sourceforge.net/projects/chaosesqueanthology/ You can use mutators to add monsters (createmutators in the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
I bet, according to you, chaosesque is not libre software because the contrib (oh wait, in your world chaosesque never forked from Xontoic and has no developers (and you doubt there ever will be any) is against feminism etc. You, on the other hand, are a real free software contributor (along

Re: [Trisquel-users] Doom/Doom II on Trisquel

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
According to some people's feelings this isn't really a free software project because the contributor hates feminism, hates feminist women, and is in favor of men marrying young girls, and likes the old religions (such as the book of Deuteronomy) where such was par for the course. If you

Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread nicolasmaia
Please don't create two threads about the same thing.

Re: [Trisquel-users] the Ubuntu Software Center will go to /dev/null

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
The move away from X and the integration of sending search terms over the internet to Amazon was the end of Ubuntu. Just as SystemD forced march is the end of linux.

Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
NO RESPONSE? SURELY YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO CHIME IN WITH

Re: [Trisquel-users] MagicBanana tells ChaosEsque to Fork Xonotic!

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
NO RESPONSE MAGIC BANANA? Nothing to say? Going to tell me to go fork off if you don't like it? Are you?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum action needed (and temporary measures taken)

2015-08-25 Thread gramex
After deleting a certain user's posts it now looks like Magic Banana is giving a curt reply to Chris that has nothing to do with Chris' post. (Image below.) I'm sure there's many other examples. This may be a consequence of the forum software used, but it would be nice to have the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 10 has the power to remotely disable software and hardware if necessary

2015-08-25 Thread calmstorm
perhaps it is nothing new to you, as for me I think it has gotten drastically worse every version after xp, not saying the ones that came before were very good... but, windows vista, AWFUL! windows 7 not nearly as bad but still bad. Windows 8 REALLY BAD! windows 10, is it even worth