Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : System Tools

2016-12-07 Thread greatgnu
I wasn't recommending it as the archive manager, I was just answering this part, as I like it for dem rars and for other few features. Peazip is great. >Unless it has changed since Trisquel, 'unrar-free' only supports old versions of RAR, whereas 'unar' supports later versions.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 Desktop Environment.

2016-12-07 Thread strypey
AFAIK the decision has been made to use Mate. I think this is a good decision, and I might start recommending Trisquel 8 to new users switching from Windows/MacOSX (I currently recommend Mint as a stepping stone from proprietary OS to fully libre GNU/Linux). GNOME 3 is great, but in most

Re: [Trisquel-users] Installation shortcuts in Trisquel 8 instead of pre-installed apps?

2016-12-07 Thread strypey
I've written before on this forum about how confusing the Add/Remove Applications user experience is. It is *not* limited only to user-friendly, mature apps. It's not even limited to only graphical applications. It's just a GUI for every piece of randomware that happens to be under a license

[Trisquel-users] Just a friendly reminder that Trisquel 7.0 is not outdated

2016-12-07 Thread albertoefg
Hello :) I know most of you are really excited about Trisquel 8.0 and so happy with the new Alfa (I am really happy too). But it seems important to me to remind you that Free Software is not about technology or progress (something I've heard Richard Stallman say several times). Free

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : System Tools

2016-12-07 Thread mcz
The option of opening a .rar without the CLI would be nice indeed. Some other options (didn't try any of these): https://superuser.com/questions/110681/is-there-a-free-ubuntu-unrar-gui By the way, it's getting hard to read. Is there a way to make an online poll somehow? I enjoy it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : System Tools

2016-12-07 Thread mcz
I do have one, with one line being "Retirer le volume sans risque". Oh, wait, not on a file, but on the disk name in the sidebar on the left. My mistake. Well, It does unmount, but doesn't go all the way (the disk is still on), because I'm " not authorized to perform operation"... Well,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : System Tools

2016-12-07 Thread agullo
I forgot about PeaZip - I had it in Ubuntu, but lost in when I moved in to Trisquel because it is not in the Trisquel repositories. I really like PeaZip. It may not open as many formats as File Roller (or Archive Manager) can, but I think that its cleanliness of interface make it better

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Internet

2016-12-07 Thread agullo
We have a small disagreement I think is worth a bit of discussion...: -Ekiga: since, like, 2009, everytime I install a new system I look for Ekiga, install it if absent, and try to make it work... and fail. Still, I am willing to give it more chances. There's got to be an alternative to

Re: [Trisquel-users] First development alpha iso images of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas"

2016-12-07 Thread calmstorm
Hibernate sometimes doesn't work but suspend works on trisquel 7 so i don't see why it would be a problem... I really hope it doesn't have to come to that with hibernate, as for suspend it shouldn't need to happen at all.

Re: [Trisquel-users] gnuzilla filters down

2016-12-07 Thread calmstorm
Yep I noticed this as well...

Re: [Trisquel-users] First development alpha iso images of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas"

2016-12-07 Thread agullo
I have used Banshee in the past, and use Rhythmbox at present by way of not bothering to try something different. So after reading your messages I installed both Banshee and Exaile, and I found that I had to rule out Exaile because of these two things: -Intelligent library classification:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 Desktop Environment.

2016-12-07 Thread calmstorm
This sounds like microsoft in a nutshell... A screaming kicking spoiled child. ;)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : System Tools

2016-12-07 Thread tegskywalker
We all know its a fork, so there is no need to have Caja and Nautilus installed when only Caja is needed for desktop rendering and file management. It is the default file manager for MATE and the Ubuntu MATE distro after all. If you haven't been aware of the Nautilus project the past few

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Graphics

2016-12-07 Thread agullo
Yes, of course Inkscape and GIMP are excellent, though I don't how widely used they are. I agree gThumb is good, as a matter of fact I have it installed. Hoever, gThumb lacks a feature which I find essential in a photo manager - red eyes fix. Both Shotwell and F-Spot have it.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Graphics

2016-12-07 Thread mtlben
Are you sure about that? I was a gThumb user a couple of years ago and remember the red eyes fix feature very well, as it was very easy to use and worked like a charm.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Accessories

2016-12-07 Thread agullo
I already mentioned Evince, Okular and Cups in the Office section. Agree on Pfd Shuffler, and like Scribus too though get too idea it is of big size and don't know how widely it is used.

Re: [Trisquel-users] First development alpha iso images of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas"

2016-12-07 Thread strypey
Thanks so much to Reuben and everyone else who has worked on this alpha release. I look forward to testing whatever is the latest test version when I get back home after summer.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Office

2016-12-07 Thread strypey
I'm not sure how necessary a desktop email client is these days, but an address book and a calendar are definitely useful things to have, as contact and information information is sensitive, and should be stored on and accessed from a local drive with a local app, even if there is some

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Internet

2016-12-07 Thread strypey
I know very few people who use offline email clients at all. IceDove would be a better choice than Thunderbird, and also provides support XMPP and IRC. A client for GNU Social and other free code social media apps would be great, but I can't suggest one.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Graphics

2016-12-07 Thread tirifto
For the photo manager, I'd like to mention gThumb. I only used it briefly a long while back, but I remember it being pretty nice and working with images in already existing directory structure. It also seems to be more actively developed than F-spot.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Graphics

2016-12-07 Thread pandyadeepp
**GIMP** AND **ImageMagic**

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Office

2016-12-07 Thread strypey
Document editor: LibreOffice - yes! Dictionary: Mate Dictionary - ok. PDF viewer? Text Editor: MousePad or LeafPad? I know this is usually in Accessories but I think it would be easier for new users to find under Office. I often want to quickly tap out some text without risking a web-based

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Internet

2016-12-07 Thread pandyadeepp
Lynx

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Internet

2016-12-07 Thread strypey
* Ekiga? I vote no. I've never managed to get it to work, and WebRTC systems like Meet.jit.si and Palava.tv make a local app for voice/ video chat obselete. Put Ekiga in the repos for anyone who knows how to use it and wants to. * I vote for Transmission. It's always worked fine for me and

[Trisquel-users] Installation shortcuts in Trisquel 8 instead of pre-installed apps?

2016-12-07 Thread strypey
It just occurs to me that there might be a way to completely sidestep the debates about the default application set in Trisquel 8. What if we don't install any apps by default that aren't essential to the running of the base OS and the desktop environment? Instead, we fill the application

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : System Tools

2016-12-07 Thread pandyadeepp
Sybaptic, Hardinfo, Modem Manager GUI. Packages: randr, gworldclock, cups-pdf, dpkg-dev, gksu, libnotify-bin, p7zip-full, unrar-free, wmctr, xdotool

[Trisquel-users] Re : Please contritube to Trisquel 8!

2016-12-07 Thread pinmaritim
Can some of you please help Salman (who is working on the installer) & update the page with users proposals https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/flidas-release-issues I personnaly have no time actually ( i just spent 6 month working on the french wiki) and it's no longer possible for me to spend x

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Graphics

2016-12-07 Thread tirifto
From my experience, it doesn't. MyPaint is a painting program aimed at graphic tablet users, resembling a traditional drawing experience in many ways. While it does offer advanced functions, it's image manipulation abilities are very limited from what I can remember. I don't think a

[Trisquel-users] My five cents to the "Trisquel 8 Software Proposal" matter..

2016-12-07 Thread someone
Hi these are my software proposal for Trisquel 8 PREFACE I'm far too lazy to divide my suggestions between all the topics already opened that's why I put them all in one post. I don't use the same groups all the topics already opened use. I refer to Debian's package name (exception made for

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Office

2016-12-07 Thread dooleyn
Seconded.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Multimedia

2016-12-07 Thread pandyadeepp
WinFF

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Accessories

2016-12-07 Thread pandyadeepp
Evince, qpdfview or Okular, Pdf Chain or Pdf Shuffler

Re: [Trisquel-users] First development alpha iso images of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas"

2016-12-07 Thread greatgnu
>Anything over Rhythmbox, which is notoriously buggy. I quite like Banshee, You may want to try Exaile.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : System Tools

2016-12-07 Thread onpon4
The only thing I've seen of Peazip is that it isn't able to open the ReTux archives because it forbids including "|" as part of an entered password. I have nothing against Peazip, but I don't see why you would exchange a more capable archive manager for a less capable one.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : System Tools

2016-12-07 Thread onpon4
I don't see a graphical archive manager there. Perhaps you misunderstand what p7zip-full is? Archive managers such as File-Roller use this to open encrypted 7z archives.

[Trisquel-users] Full list of Trisquel ISO (image) mirrors/servers

2016-12-07 Thread pandyadeepp
I've recently found http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/ from OMG Ubuntu article. I was staring eyes on http://mirror.fsf.org/trisquel-images/ for possible aplha,beta version of Trisquel 8.0, though I can understand that only final version can be found there. I've visited

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : System Tools

2016-12-07 Thread greatgnu
Peazip is great and supports everything AFAIK, but AFAIK it is not in the Bunnunntu repo. http://www.peazip.org/peazip-linux.html

[Trisquel-users] gnuzilla filters down

2016-12-07 Thread no-email
It had been many days that the gnuzilla filters are down, what's wrong? http://gnuzilla.gnu.org/filters/blacklist.txt

[Trisquel-users] Re : Installation shortcuts in Trisquel 8 instead of pre-installed apps?

2016-12-07 Thread lcerf
What you suggest basically is to make a menu from the current "Add/Remove Applications" (or whatever it is called), where a choice already exists (only graphical applications) and where applications already are categorized. In my opinion, showing all possible options in the main menu would

[Trisquel-users] Re : Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : System Tools

2016-12-07 Thread lcerf
Unless it has changed since Trisquel, 'unrar-free' only supports old versions of RAR, whereas 'unar' supports later versions. Also, I see no need to substitute GNOME's archive manager, FileRoller. It is good.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could a Lutris fork be used to create a libre replacement for SteamOS?

2016-12-07 Thread onpon4
> You turn your head to the left and see whatever is to your left in the VR environment without having to do it with your hands. Yes, and this is not generally useful for game design. It's a novelty, and it's much more complex than the more traditional alternatives, plus it requires

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Internet

2016-12-07 Thread onpon4
> There's got to be an alternative to closed-source Skype and WhatsApp. Yes... it's called Jitsi. Or you can use Pidgin. Either through any XMPP server, or in the case of Jitsi, through meet.jit.si (I gather that the latter is easier, but haven't tried it yet).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : System Tools

2016-12-07 Thread onpon4
File-Roller supports using unar now and has for quite some time. I don't know about Engrampa, though.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Multimedia

2016-12-07 Thread davidpgil
Picard

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : System Tools

2016-12-07 Thread onpon4
That was a response to Magic Banana, not you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could a Lutris fork be used to create a libre replacement for SteamOS?

2016-12-07 Thread strypey
Not only do I disagree with your interpretations, we don't even seem to be looking at the same reality. I'm not sure where in the world you live, and I can only based my comments on what I observe going on here in Aotearoa, which tends to be a weird mix of the stubbornly backwards and the

Re: [Trisquel-users] "fork" trisquel

2016-12-07 Thread jason
I think it's mostly a lack of volunteers. Beyond that making it work like a wiki where where anyone can come along and do anything is an absolutely horrible and dangerous idea. No distro works like that. Not even Debian does. It's not as if, in Debianland, absolutely anyone can walk up

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could a Lutris fork be used to create a libre replacement for SteamOS?

2016-12-07 Thread strypey
One more point; flatscreens don't offer anything significantly more useful than CRTs for desktops and TVs, but who still uses a CRT? Similarly, touchscreens are gradually replacing non-touch flatscreens on laptops, and will eventually do the same on desktops (assuming they continue to exist

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could a Lutris fork be used to create a libre replacement for SteamOS?

2016-12-07 Thread onpon4
> I remember being told in the 90s that because those were "specialized equipment that not everyone has", I was wasting my time with teaching activists to use websites and email lists. There's a big difference between something that is only useful for particular kinds of games and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could a Lutris fork be used to create a libre replacement for SteamOS?

2016-12-07 Thread onpon4
> flatscreens don't offer anything significantly more useful than CRTs for desktops and TVs This is completely untrue. There are two major reasons LCD screens became the norm rather than CRTs: they're much more power-efficient, and they're much more lightweight. In fact, CRT screens are

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Graphics

2016-12-07 Thread agullo
Your comment has made me to open it and search throughtout the menus of gThumb viewer... nothing. Then, I noticed two icons at the right, that opened additional menus with tools, and sure, Red Eye Removal is there. So, I agree on gThumb over Shotwell or F-Spot.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could a Lutris fork be used to create a libre replacement for SteamOS?

2016-12-07 Thread infinityfallen
I largely agree with the point you aim to make, Onpon, but there are a few claims you have made above with which I beg to differ. Firstly, although I'm not a fortune teller, there do seem to be several 'work' applications for VR, some of which are already emerging. I recall reading about

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 Desktop Environment.

2016-12-07 Thread strypey
>> Then in the process of changing distros (I'm a distro hopper) I accidentally deleted the configuration file. I didn't have the heart to go back and go through the process of getting it back the way I wanted it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : System Tools

2016-12-07 Thread mcz
I see that the functionality is listed in the specs, but even after installing unar (an extra step one has to be aware of?), I can't make it work :/ I'll look further into it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 Desktop Environment.

2016-12-07 Thread strypey
I'm not into telling anyone what to do or not to do, but I think it's worth asking you to consider what impression that picture and SuperTramp83's comment would give a women browsing these forums to see if she was welcome and respected in the Trisquel community. Not judging, just inviting

Re: [Trisquel-users] Development of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas" Software proposal by category : Internet

2016-12-07 Thread mcz
meet.jit.si is OK, but unreliable: It worked fine once, and not at all another one. That was a fine way to make free software unattractive to the person I was trying to reach. The first time made an impression though, but the second impression was more impactful. As for Jitsi itself, when