[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
First, thanks for making my email publicly available to spam bots. I thought there were private? At least I can't see the email addresses from other people on this forum :P I have not considered purchasing an external ethernet adapter because I have read that other people ran into problems

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
Your right, I should use a faster wireless adapter. My router supports 5GHz and up to 300 MBit/s and my current subscriptions offers me 50/2.5 MBit of internet bandwidth. So the real word bandwith of g networking is would be insufficient. Here are three pictures of the Asus WL-167G (V2)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Can I recover from moronic loss of the root password?

2013-07-14 Thread mikko . viinamaki
su will not work because the root password is locked by default, one is expected to use sudo. So, to become root use sudo su, which asks for YOUR password and not root's. In case you have forgotten YOUR password, you need a live media. Or another OS which can access your /etc/shadow file.

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
Installed and rebooted while attached. Still nothing happens on both USB ports. :( Here's a picture for confirmation: http://cl.ly/image/3P020y0j0m1a

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
Yes, I was also fearing that this is an issue with the USB ports. Now, I have created an ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64 live USB (not the alternate iso, because that one does not offer run without installing ubuntu first). The TP-link adapter is working in this live ubuntu on my macbook air!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a reasonable cloud storage method?

2013-07-14 Thread shiretoko
I host everything myself; you can solve the problem with the static ip easily with a service like noip.com (it's free of charge). A small script (included in the free-debian repos, don't know about trisquel) sends the new ip to noip.com and then your domain gets linked to the new ip instead

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
My next computer will be purchased with free software compability in mind. Then you should definitely check out the Chromebook Pixel, which is currently the best FLOSS compatible laptop I'm aware of. It is also the only one comparable in hardware design to your MacBook Air. ...there are

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
Thank you! I'll attach those pictures to the device WikiDevi page later. You may also consider buying a fully FLOSS compatible wireless router. The only 100% pure FLOSS driven that doesn't rely on proprietary binary blobs, is currently the Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH v1 (only the first revision is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread Andrew R .
On 14/07/13 17:54, fourfreedom wrote: First, thanks for making my email publicly available to spam bots. I thought there were private? At least I can't see the email addresses from other people on this forum :P There is a connected mailing list for this forum: http://listas.trisquel.info

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
Ha, the 12.04.2 version does use the 3.5 series kernel series AFAIK, so that could be the reason.

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
In fact, I have considered in the past to use a fully free software compatible router. But getting this done is very difficult: 1) Limited availability of providers which also have very different pricing. 2) Some providers nowadays require you to use their router etc. This makes it easier

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread Andrew R .
On 14/07/13 19:46, mYself wrote: My next computer will be purchased with free software compability in mind. Then you should definitely check out the Chromebook Pixel, which is currently the best FLOSS compatible laptop I'm aware of. It is also the only one comparable in hardware design

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
Ok, just to be sure, can you confirm this with the output of the uname -r command?

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
So, is this the Trisquel-users mailing list that you are talking about? Do subscribers receive emails of all replies in the forum posts? I'm asking because I would very much like to receive an email notification whenever people reply to my forum post - and *only* then! Thanks for letting

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
The Chromebook is a bliss :) Yet, the price is really high at the moment. I have found a German hardware vendor which sells a compact, but cheap USB wireless adapter. The driver is open source, but I do not know about the firmware Source code:

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
It's in the attached picture already: $ uname -r 3.2.0-48-generic

Re: [Trisquel-users] Security of source-code

2013-07-14 Thread chris
It seems the lesson that should have been learned from the Stuxnet attack by Iran is that allowing others into your facilities has its risks.

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
It's all in this new picture: http://cl.ly/image/3S3q1F1P1n1f 12.04.2 $ uname -r 3.5.0-23-generic

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
Edimax EW-7811Un Definitely NO! The device isn't FLOSS compatible at all. You should only focus on the ath9k_htc compatible ones. The smallest and cheapest device I am aware of (already compared all of the listed devices) is the Unex DNUA-93F. There are alternatives such as the Onkyo

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Security of source-code

2013-07-14 Thread sgies1963
I am very thanful for all the articles. It fortifies me to use Trisquel and try to persuade people in my neighborhood to this distrbution. Thank you all.

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
Thanks for the ath9k_htc compatible list! I might buy the Onkyo UWF-1 because it's so small and the price is fair. But I'll go through the whole list and see if there are even smaller ones. ;-) Edit: Most of them don't have pictures yet. So this is like searching a needle in a hay stack.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread Andrew R .
On 14/07/13 20:31, fourfreedom wrote: 2) Some providers nowadays require you to use their router etc. This makes it easier for them to update software and troubleshoot errors. I know someone whose provider required this. When I set up their network I just found the settings online. I imagine

Re: [Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread Andrew R .
On 14/07/13 20:40, fourfreedom wrote: So, is this the Trisquel-users mailing list that you are talking about? Do subscribers receive emails of all replies in the forum posts? I'm asking because I would very much like to receive an email notification whenever people reply to my forum post

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
Thanks for the update Andrew. This behavior is not common and therefore unexpected, but I I just noticed that when editing my account there is a small description under the e-mail address field which discloses that my e-mail address will be used for such things. I do not like it, but at

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
Just copy the device name from the list to the DuckDuckGo search box, and append the !i bang syntax. That's the way I'm doing that.

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread mikko . viinamaki
I do not like it, but at least I understand now. Thanks :) I don't like it either and thus filed https://trisquel.info/en/issues/2003

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a reasonable cloud storage method?

2013-07-14 Thread mikko . viinamaki
I've been pondering doing this myself. How are the costs?

[Trisquel-users] Re : Can I recover from moronic loss of the root password?

2013-07-14 Thread magicbanana
'sudo -i' gives you a root terminal ($HOME is /root and so on) with your user password.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does QupZilla work with Tor

2013-07-14 Thread nospamhere
It sounds like Qupzilla can't handle direct connections to tor. Install privoxy, and point privoxy to tor via the following line in privoxy config: #forward-socks5 / 127.0.0.1:9050 . Removing the # sign in the above line in the privoxy config will allow privoxy to

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
Ah, sorry. I overlooked that. Now try to download the 3.5 series kernel, install it, and see what happens. Also, do not forget to attach the output of the uname -r command.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Can I recover from moronic loss of the root password?

2013-07-14 Thread ejectmail
Suppose you haven't forgotten the password, but you just want to change it. How can you do that?

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
Wohoo! You did it :D It's working now. I can connect the TL-WN772N adapter anytime I want and connect to the world wide web. The throughput is not optimal but I really don't care about that right now. Thank you very much for your help! In case Triquel updates the kernel sometimes later

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Congrats! In case Triquel updates the kernel sometimes later (but to a version 3.5) will it downgrade my installation so that I'd have to install this again? I believe the kernel with the largest version number is the default choice, so no.

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
That's good. Thanks!

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
It worked! Thanks @mYself! Here's the proof: http://cl.ly/image/3L1p1p0a2X1Y

Re: [Trisquel-users] Can I recover from moronic loss of the root password?

2013-07-14 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Use the passwd command. There might be a fancy GUI way too.

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
Wow, this bug is already three years old! I shall leave a comment there right now.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Can I recover from moronic loss of the root password?

2013-07-14 Thread onpon4
The GUI way depends on the DE, but for GNOME it's in Users and Groups.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Can I recover from moronic loss of the root password?

2013-07-14 Thread D. A. H.
You can log in as you normally would, and do the same 'passwd' command as mentioned in this thread. You'll be asked for the old password, the new password, then to confirm the new password.

[Trisquel-users] Motherboard MSI

2013-07-14 Thread chris . arijs
I just added another desktop to my collection. It runs the MSI mainboard H61M-P31 G3. Trisquel runs good on it, but is there a feature in Trisquel to check whether or not Trisquel uses de graphicchip on it. So there is no Graphic card? Just a chip on the MSI mainboard.

[Trisquel-users] jar-files

2013-07-14 Thread chris . arijs
Noobquestion i think, but how do i open jar-files in trisquel ? and install the program ?

[Trisquel-users] Re : jar-files

2013-07-14 Thread magicbanana
$ java [ options ] -jar file.jar [ argument ... ] The arguments are passed to the main method of the Java program. As for the options passed to the interpreter (you probably want none), you can take a look at: $ man java

[Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?

2013-07-14 Thread jonahsabean
Hello all! I am new to Trisquel and am looking to use free software since I think freedom is very important (though ironically I'm posting this from Windows since the computer I'm on atm refuses to work with anything other than 8 gotta love new innovative hardware *rolls eyes*. I'm a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?

2013-07-14 Thread Michał Masłowski
This question comes from a difference perspective however, software stored on a non-rewritable ROM which nobody can modify once wrote to, and why are they acceptable but non-free blobs are not? The blobs that can be changed are software. The parts of chips that aren't implemented as ROM are

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
I'm glad that it worked, but were not finished now. Both of the kernels I proposed you to install comes from the official Trisquel repositories. Now that you have got a working wireless connection, open up a new Terminal window, then type: sudo apt-get install

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
Post here some screenshot.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Motherboard MSI

2013-07-14 Thread mikko . viinamaki
lspci|grep VGA

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
The requirements for making your computer able to connect into your wireless network are the following: - you need to download and put the htc_7010.fw (optional but recommended, since future devices might require it) and htc_9271.fw firmware files into the /lib/firmware folder. Make sure

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
Too late, I was impatient and continued. Now the GRUP doesn't show any linux kernel anymore. Only my OSX installation. :/

Re: [Trisquel-users] BOINC

2013-07-14 Thread gromobir
@MagicBanana: That's my point! @lembas: Unfortunately, I don't know of any place where you can get the source code for the World Community Grid from, but they state the following on their website: World Community Grid is making technology available only to public and not-for-profit

Re: [Trisquel-users] Acer Aspire 7739

2013-07-14 Thread gromobir
Another strange error I noticed recently: When the power adapter is not connected and my laptop is running with battery power only, my mouse stops to work after some seconds. If I reconnect it, it works again for some more seconds and then stops again. Has anyone else experienced this?

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread ejectmail
Also, did matt not install the proprietary Wi-Fi drivers at some earlier point of this discussion? Perhaps we need to remove them.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?

2013-07-14 Thread shiretoko
I think you're misunderstanding the fsf. I'm not an expert, but here is my point of view. The point is: whenever software is on a rom and it's not modifiable, yes, the fsf doesn't consider it as software and the four freedoms don't apply. BUT the fsf raises the next question to all things

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
It's fine. I can do a radical makeover (tomorrow, it's late already) and install again from scratch. All my important data is on a shared partition anyway. This time I'll follow straight your instructions from this comment:

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
I can guide you to recover your system if you want, but it is too complex. What happened?

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
I did install proprietary firmware, but since then I had already done another full reinstall of Trisquel and Ubuntu to (re-)check what worked regarding Wi-Fi with external adapters and what not.

Re: [Trisquel-users] jar-files

2013-07-14 Thread gromobir
Additionally, you may need to install java first: sudo aptitude install openjdk-7-jre should help.

Re: [Trisquel-users] BOINC

2013-07-14 Thread mikko . viinamaki
That's of course good but if the software isn't free, it can't be included in Trisquel.

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
No need, I will do a reinstall then tomorrow. And then only apply the first of the two commands, right? What happened? No much really. There weren't really any error messages. But lots of stuff got 'removed'. The last two lines said something like you may have to update grub.cfg.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?

2013-07-14 Thread jonahsabean
First of all, how do I quote when I make a reply, a bit of a noob question but I don't know how to use the forums platform trisquel forums use, I'm use to phpBB lol. Anyway, back on topic: I think someone on this forum said that old video games, because they are stored on a non-modifiable

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
Thank you for this guide. I'll copy this directly into my Setup Trisquel.odt. :P Why do I need the htc_9271.fw firmware, though? I did not have it installed but got Wi-Fi working by upgrading the kernel.

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
Not installed? The ath9k_htc_linux_driver package install script copied both the htc_7010.fw and htc_9271.fw files after the execution into the /lib/firmware folder, so are you sure?? The output of the ls /lib/firmware also showed that both of the files were in-place. The README file on

Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?

2013-07-14 Thread mikko . viinamaki
First of all, how do I quote when I make a reply, a bit of a noob question but I don't know how to use the forums platform trisquel forums use, I'm use to phpBB lol. Just copy/paste what you wish to quote and prefix it with a

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
I tested those commands before posting them, and they just worked fine. It looks that the GRUB configuration was not refreshed after the older kernels was removed from the system. In the future, you can use the following command after fiddling with your Linux kernel: sudo update-grub If

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread myself600
What about ordering the Unex adapter from one of the following sites: http://www.gongchang.com/DNUA_93F_802_11n_b_g_wifi_USB_adapter_UB93_AR9271-dp8674127/ or http://www.weiku.com/products/11222654/DNUA_93F_802_11n_b_g_wifi_USB_adapter_UB93_AR9271.html The stock price for one device is $1, so

Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?

2013-07-14 Thread lloyd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 This is a very interesting topic. Just because a program is non-modifiable, doesn't mean that it respects your freedom. Quite the opposite, in fact. The whole point of free software is to have the freedom to do your computing as you see fit.

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
You were right, I need the ath9k driver package. I did something wrong during the first fresh re-install. I first updated to the new kernel, and then I tried to run your install.sh script. This failed with some error because a file was not available. (I forgot to write it down...) In an

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-14 Thread fourfreedom
This is interesting! Are these manufacturer websites? I'd be glad to order directly from them. The other brands have just rebranded this one, right? I've never made such a purchase before. It will probably be a bit more paperwork and complicated regarding taxes. But that won't stop me.

Re: [Trisquel-users] jar-files

2013-07-14 Thread chris . arijs
Is n't openjdk 7 already installed in Trisquel 6.0 ??

Re: [Trisquel-users] jar-files

2013-07-14 Thread Oral Floss
On 07/14/2013 06:36 PM, chris.ar...@student.kuleuven.be wrote: Is n't openjdk 7 already installed in Trisquel 6.0 ?? Nope, but it's easy to install using Synaptic Package Manager. Just search it and install it. No need to use terminal. As for running the .jar files, you can simply right-click

Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?

2013-07-14 Thread Andrew R .
On 15/07/13 06:18, jsabean wrote: First of all, how do I quote when I make a reply, a bit of a noob question but I don't know how to use the forums platform trisquel forums use, I'm use to phpBB lol. Hey! Are you jsbean on phpBB.com? (I used to frequent there as well). So is there a line

Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?

2013-07-14 Thread jonahsabean
Lets see if I get this quoting thing right. I guess it's more like email, makes since too I guess since I read on the forum index this is linked with a mailing list? Anyway, First to andrew: Hey! Are you jsbean on phpBB.com? (I used to frequent there as well). Yes I was jsbean on

Re: [Trisquel-users] Boot Trisquel on computers without PAE

2013-07-14 Thread gameboyab
I finally got Trisquel 6.0 working on my Dell Inspiron 8600. I took the hard drive out of the Inspiron and put it in a Dell Latitude which reports PAE as one of the CPU's features, installed Trisquel on the drive, installed fake-pae, (link above, it may have worked anyway if I had not

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a reasonable cloud storage method?

2013-07-14 Thread tegskywalker
You COULD use Dropbox, Google Drive, Skydrive, or Ubuntu One if you had to in a pinch, but if you choose to do so, make sure the files are encrypted with a GPG key or something similar. They won't be able to open it on their server without the private key (even if the public key is on

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a reasonable cloud storage method?

2013-07-14 Thread tegskywalker
Oops... I meant using GnuGPG to use PGP.

[Trisquel-users] live CD ask to log in

2013-07-14 Thread rova
When i click try trisquel with out installing it load ut then it sk Me to log in why?? Whats the efault ID for a live CD

Re: [Trisquel-users] live CD ask to log in

2013-07-14 Thread Oral Floss
On 07/14/2013 11:44 PM, r...@openmailbox.org wrote: When i click try trisquel with out installing it load ut then it sk Me to log in why?? Whats the efault ID for a live CD It shouldn't. Re-burn the iso on a new CD.

[Trisquel-users] how to know the specs of my pc

2013-07-14 Thread rova
how can i know all the specifications of my PC from dekstop with out to have to open the cover of my pc?

Re: [Trisquel-users] how to know the specs of my pc

2013-07-14 Thread Oral Floss
On 07/15/2013 12:09 AM, r...@openmailbox.org wrote: how can i know all the specifications of my PC from dekstop with out to have to open the cover of my pc? Not sure which exact specifications you are looking for, or how detailed you want them to be. For some simple specs, open System Monitor

Re: [Trisquel-users] live CD ask to log in

2013-07-14 Thread rova
but i checked the disk for errors and is with out errors, alsoe when i used it to install trisquel in my pc, it works fine...i love to compute in freedom...

Re: [Trisquel-users] live CD ask to log in

2013-07-14 Thread Oral Floss
On 07/15/2013 12:18 AM, r...@openmailbox.org wrote: but i checked the disk for errors and is with out errors, alsoe when i used it to install trisquel in my pc, it works fine...i love to compute in freedom... Make sure you are booting from the disc and not the drive then. If the disc doesn't

Re: [Trisquel-users] jar-files

2013-07-14 Thread ejectmail
You don't need to use the terminal. Don't direct people to the terminal if you don't have to. Once you have OpenJDK, you can right click and choose to open the file with it, after which it will execute.

[Trisquel-users] Kleopatra errors: self-test error, can't change my own key's passphrase, can't search for certificates on key servers

2013-07-14 Thread croutrea
Hi, I am new here. I downloaded Kleopatra from the repositories and installed it. Whenever I start Kleopatra, I got an error message about its 'self-test'. I have attached a screenshot picture with this post. When I created a new certificate, I can't set its passphrase. When I tried to

[Trisquel-users] Problems with booting and restarting Trisquel 6.0

2013-07-14 Thread croutrea
Hello fellow Trisquel users, Sometimes when I boot Trisquel, the screen will go completely blank. Sometimes I can get to the login screen, but the screen will go blank after I enter my password. Sometimes I have to reboot the computer by force at least twice before I can boot Trisquel

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with booting and restarting Trisquel 6.0

2013-07-14 Thread rova
well is normal to have all those issues, it feels that your computer has a ghost... but first of all... did you checked your instalation disc for errors? alsoe all the white text is normal... i think is a incompatibility issue, but i dont suggest to buy a new computer... keep trying with

Re: [Trisquel-users] how to know the specs of my pc

2013-07-14 Thread rova
what you suggested just tells me the procesor and memory, id like to know what mother board im using for example

Re: [Trisquel-users] how to know the specs of my pc

2013-07-14 Thread Oral Floss
On 07/15/2013 01:11 AM, r...@openmailbox.org wrote: what you suggested just tells me the procesor and memory, id like to know what mother board im using for example For a big list of items get the package hardinfo from the Synaptic Package Manager. It's in the repository by default. Once you