[Trisquel-users] Re : Helping new users choose application software

2015-09-18 Thread lcerf
I disagree. People who do not want to learn how to use a terminal and yet  
want to install and use programs absent from the default install (i.e., more  
than 90% of the population, including, for instance, my parents, my brother  
or my wife) would never use Trisquel (contrary to, for instance, my parents,  
my brother or my wife). They would believe there is no way to install  
additional software but following unsafe the Windows way of downloading  
applications from their sites... what often means, in the GNU/Linux world,  
downloading source codes that they cannot compile. Opening the Synaptic  
package manager, searching in the description of the packages and installing  
them is a breeze. Learning alone how to use 'apt-cache' and 'apt-get' or  
'aptitude' (+ the mere existence of those commands + sudo + the basic use of  
a terminal) is not something most people want to do. And I do not see  
anything wrong with that.


Notice that most computer users spend far more time writing in a word  
processor than administrating their system. By your logic Trisquel should not  
include LibreOffice but rather only ship Emacs (or should it be 'vim'?) and  
LaTeX. It is indeed a far better and faster way to produce perfectly  
formatted texts. But you first need to learn the use of that powerful text  
editor, the LaTeX language, how to go from the .tex files to the PDF, etc.


[Trisquel-users] Re : OpenVPN - newer version?

2015-09-18 Thread lcerf
I would try to install the package of the upcoming Ubuntu release:  
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openvpn=wily


You may enter dependency hell...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread contactame+antiesnob
So you could explain how is that if I call Richard Stallman a troll (and  
that's my opinion as you have yours and we can discuss that) and if I call a  
user of trisquel a troll my messages got hidden by the spammersbegonetool  
(which its purpose is for spamming) and if someone that belongs to the  
trisqueltrollsquad like moxalt calls me a troll and his message got +1? You  
can see the message here http://trisquel.info/en/comment/reply/15505/78649


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread contactame+antiesnob
What do the programs he wrote has to do anything with me calling him a troll?  
He is a troll as u can read his posts on GNU social. Period. If you don't  
like my opinion ,you, member of the trisqueltrollsquad, have the right to not  
allow others to express themselves. Enjoy it, cause I'll be reporting it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread contactame+antiesnob
I said CLEARLY "Does he program?" Never said he DIDN'T PROGRAM BEFORE. YOU  
HAD TO READ ONLY 3 SHORT SENTENCES AND YOU DIDN'T.

Who needs the medication ? Clearly YOU lembasswholelottaluv
Of this plus other shit from members of the trisqueltrollsquad like u and  
magicbanana I'll taking note to report this as not free of speech on Trisquel  
forums. Trisqueltrollsquad is not suitable for a moderation program.


[Trisquel-users] FX Settings difficult in Audacity

2015-09-18 Thread pierrefalek
Even if Audacity can be a great sound editing tool, I'm very distrurbed by  
the way Audacity do things.


I'm trying to set the equalizer effect to a sound, but Audacity does't allow  
me to listening my setting while I'm doing it (I always have to set up first  
then listen a sample of what I've done).


Is there any way to modify this or is there any tool that allow to modify FX  
(especilally equalizer FX) in a sound file while in the FX setting ?


I'm a bit confused with plug in tools that seems to only work for midi  
softwares and maybe not Audacity.


Thanks in advance for your replys.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread contactame+antiesnob

Rubén Rodríguez
Phuk all the others LOL


[Trisquel-users] Re : My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-18 Thread calinou

We don't help people run proprietary games here.


[Trisquel-users] Re : My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-18 Thread calinou

> Supertuxkart = clone of MarioKart

Nope. They don't use the same engines and have different game mechanics and  
tracks.


> xonotic = clone of quake 3?

No, not at all. Xonotic isn't even a clone of CPMA (Challenge Pro Mode Arena,  
a mod of Quake 3 Arena); it's its own game with its unique game mechanics. In  
fact, it is based on DarkPlaces (which is based on Quake 1, not Quake 3).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread contactame+antiesnob
Richard Stallman is a satanic troll. Does he program? I'm pretty sure he  
forgot howta do it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread moxalt
???

Wait... are you an antiesnob alt?


[Trisquel-users] Re : My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-18 Thread calinou

Okay, I apologize.

Back on topic: Intel graphics will be slower on Trisquel than on other  
(non-fully-libre) distributions because we don't ship microcode updates.  
Expect a 30% performance loss.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread moxalt
Actually, wait, no. I just read your other post. You're far too coherent to be
an antiesnob alt :-)


Re: [Trisquel-users] My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-18 Thread onpon4
Do CPU microcode updates really get distributed normally by the kernel? I was  
under the impression that this was something the BIOS does, and that in  
practice you never get updates past what was already there when you bought  
it.


[Trisquel-users] Re : My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-18 Thread calinou
To be more accurate, I think the distributions (Debian, Fedora) ship it in  
the form of packages.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread moxalt
> Sorry, but I think I did that only in this thread.

True.

> I'm doing it on purpose simply to show that some 'exclusive' users have the
> right to say anything including call someone a troll like moxalt did

Cool experiment. You've neglected the fact that acting like a troll (surprise
suprise) will get you *treated as a troll*. That's all you've demonstrated,
for all your supposed 'free speech' campaign, and the miraculous 'revelation'
of the 'conspiracy' behind trisquel-users: the so-called 'trisquel troll
squad'. What happened here was that you acted like a troll. You were promptly
dealt with as a troll.

And since when was I an 'exclusive' user of any kind? I'm a relatively recent
addition to the Trisquel community, and not exactly some sort of respected sage
or something.

Can you end your experiment already, and regain some modicum of the
sliver of decency you previously possessed?

> I didn't sum up ANY ARGUMENT.

True. An actual argument would be welcome, as opposed to making baseless
assertions and just generally acting in a very troll-like manner. Then we could
just debunk whatever idiotic argument you come up with for your 'experiment'
instead of calling troll.

> The same users replying to me because of calling Richard Stallman a troll
> didn't reply to moxalt's post in which he calls me a troll.

That's called democracy. The vast majority of people here (myself included) do
not agree that Richard Stallman is a troll. They thus defended rms and attacked
your position. On the other hand, it seems the majority consider my 'troll'
analysis as valid.


[Trisquel-users] 임시성인인증↓【TVC365。C0M 】↓카지노사이트

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[Trisquel-users] 노름닷컴∨【TVC365。C0M 】∨카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
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[Trisquel-users] 제주라마다카지노⊇【TVC365。C0M 】⊇카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
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[Trisquel-users] 정통카지노∧【TVC365。C0M 】∧카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
정통카지노\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\정통카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\정통카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\정통카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\정통카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카ì§

�노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노정통카지노\\



[Trisquel-users] 티카지노↖【TVC365。C0M 】↖카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
티카지노\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\티카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\티카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\티카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\티카지노티카지노티카지노티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\티카지노티카지노티카지노티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\티카지노티카지노티카지노티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\티카지노티카지노티카지노티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\티카지노티카지노티카지노티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\티카지노티ì¹

�지노티카지노티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\티카지노티카지노티카지노티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\티카지노티카지노티카지노티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\티카지노티카지노티카지노티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\티카지노티카지노티카지노티카지노\\



[Trisquel-users] 성공으로가는길⊂【TVC365。C0M 】⊂카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
성공으로가는길\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\성공으로가는길온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\성공으로가는길온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\성공으로가는길온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\성공으로가는길\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\성공으로가는길성공으ë¡

�가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\성공으
로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길성공으로가는길\\



[Trisquel-users] 인생역전기회〉【TVC365。C0M 】〉카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
인생역전기회\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\인생역전기회온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\인생역전기회온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\인생역전기회온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\인생역전기회\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회\\온ë

�인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회인생역전기회\\



[Trisquel-users] 신나는온라인게임∧【TVC365。C0M 】∧카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
신나는온라인게임\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\신나는온라인게임온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\신나는온라인게임온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\신나는온라인게임온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\신나는온라인게임\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카ì§

�노사이트\\신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임\\온라인카
지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임신나는온라인게임\\



[Trisquel-users] 에이플러스카지노▤【TVC365。C0M 】▤카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
에이플러스카지노\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\에이플러스카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\에이플러스카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\에이플러스카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\에이플러스카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카ì§

�노사이트\\에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노\\온라인카
지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노에이플러스카지노\\



[Trisquel-users] 태양성카지노→【TVC365。C0M 】→카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
태양성카지노\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\태양성카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\태양성카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\태양성카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\태양성카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노\\온ë

�인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노태양성카지노\\



[Trisquel-users] 월드카지노’【TVC365。C0M 】’카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
월드카지노\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\월드카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\월드카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\월드카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\월드카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카ì§

�노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노월드카지노\\



[Trisquel-users] 안전한놀이터♧【TVC365。C0M 】♧카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
안전한놀이터\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\안전한놀이터온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\안전한놀이터온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\안전한놀이터온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\안전한놀이터\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터\\온ë

�인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터안전한놀이터\\



[Trisquel-users] 바카라사이트모음´【TVC365。C0M 】´카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
바카라사이트모음\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\바카라사이트모음온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\바카라사이트모음온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\바카라사이트모음온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\바카라사이트모음\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카ì§

�노사이트\\바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음\\온라인카
지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음바카라사이트모음\\



[Trisquel-users] 썬시티카지노∼【TVC365。C0M 】∼카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
썬시티카지노\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\썬시티카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\썬시티카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\썬시티카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\썬시티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노\\온ë

�인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노썬시티카지노\\



[Trisquel-users] 세븐카지노⊂【TVC365。C0M 】⊂카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
세븐카지노\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\세븐카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\세븐카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\세븐카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\세븐카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카ì§

�노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노세븐카지노\\



[Trisquel-users] 다모아카지노∠【TVC365。C0M 】∠카지노사이트

2015-09-18 Thread hcrmi317
다모아카지노\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\다모아카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\다모아카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\다모아카지노온라인카지노사이트\\【TVC365。C0M  
】\\다모아카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노\\온ë

�인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노\\온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트온라인카지노사이트\\다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노다모아카지노\\



Re: [Trisquel-users] My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-18 Thread ethernet252

I Will get the specs of my machine and give it to you


Re: [Trisquel-users] My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-18 Thread ethernet252
>>We don't help people run proprietary games here. If you want a free town  
management game, try OpenTTD.


Wait a sec, is skyscrapersim nonfree? i'm sorry if you're right, but i'm  
reffering to this game right here:

http://www.skyscrapersim.com/index.shtml

And the description says the source code is under the GNU GPL. so how can it  
be nonfree in any means? check the link of the description of the  
aforementioned website. and i wasn't referring to transport tycoon or  
simcity, i was talking about an elevator simulator.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread someonedidnotlikeitsothisishowitlooksnow
"though it's nothing that can't be solved by another post that would clear  
the misunderstanding."
No one asked for that. not a single user asked for any argumentation (that I  
have).


"calling people trolls and other names (ad-hominem indeed) and not backing it  
up is what you often did these days"
Sorry, but I think I did that only in this thread. And yes , that's not good  
but I'm doing it on purpose simply to show that some "exclusive" users have  
the right to say anything including call someone a troll like moxalt did  
WHILE  there is the majority of users who CANNOT DO SUCH.


So, as you say, freedom of speech it's not easy so there are limitations to  
try to achieve that. In the English trisquel forum those limitation DOES NOT  
APPLY to users like lembas, onpon4, MagicBanana, moxalt, etc. Thus, it is  
censure made by themselves.


Also, an ad-hominem attack is when you use a human being as an argument (on  
this case) and I didn't do that. In fact, as MagicBanana said I didn't sum up  
ANY ARGUMENT. So, there CANNOT be an ad-hominem attack.
Simply making statements without an argument doesn't mean you don't have one  
and the downvotes didn't have any arguments.
For example: onpon4 said he doesn't agree with Richard Stallman being a  
troll. The he sums up an argument of that. However, think what would happened  
if he wouldn't have summed up an argument... Read it:

I DON'T AGREE WITH RICHARD STALLMAN BEEING A TROLL.
Is that an ad-hominem attack? Because a positive adjetive/noun is used  
doesn't mean it is an attack.


The same users replying to me because of calling Richard Stallman a troll  
didn't reply to moxalt's post in which he calls me a troll.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Help needed - Cannot log in trisquel after external harddisk not ejected properly

2015-09-18 Thread devtaporia

I have attached the Xorg.0.log file. (in odt as log files are not allowed)

Thanks for replying Adfeno.. :)

I searched Xauthority on web and found a thread with similar problem and  
solution..


https://askubuntu.com/questions/300682/what-represent-xauthority-file

The solution could be relevant as i used to use sudo nautilus quite often (in  
order to get rights to edit files on my external HDD)


Please share your comments on it.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-09-18 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Thanks. I read somewhere that upstream nowadays upgrades the stack  
automatically, I wonder if Trisquel 7 actually does it too.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Help needed - Cannot log in trisquel after external harddisk not ejected properly

2015-09-18 Thread lcerf
The only errors in the log relate to a "Serial Wacom Tablet stylus". I doubt  
that would crash X.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-09-18 Thread lcerf
The latest "LTS enablement stack" is based on Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet (just  
replace "utopic" with "vivid"). But an even more more recent kernel from  
jxself's repository. https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/update-linux-libre-kernel  
gives instructions.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help needed - Cannot log in trisquel after external harddisk not ejected properly

2015-09-18 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
> The solution could be relevant as i used to use sudo nautilus quite often  
(in order to get rights to edit files on my external HDD)


This is why you're having the issue. You should always use gksudo and not  
sudo to start graphical apps.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread someonedidnotlikeitsothisishowitlooksnow

Hi, daddy.

Are you a troll?


[Trisquel-users] Re : Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-18 Thread lcerf
There apparently are more subtle problems than missing missing license  
notices. See the long list of "Blocked on" bugs on  
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28291


Re: [Trisquel-users] My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-18 Thread ethernet252
Hey, I was at least right about freeciv being a clone of another popular  
game.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread chris
I'm not sure Rubén Rodríguez, Francis Rowe, or Richard Stallman are really  
good candidates for various reasons. RMS is obviously ineligible (or it was  
to some here anyway). There are a number of other people who deserve  
recognition for the work they've done including Rubén Rodríguez and Francis  
Rowe, but I'm skeptical that this award is appropriate for these people. The  
award has traditionally been given to people who have primarily working on  
software development. While there is some of that going on within these  
projects I'm not convinced I'd call it the primary focus. Packaging, removing  
code, reverse engineering, and similar efforts are worthy of an award, but  
that's not really primarily software development.


I think we need a more general award to recognize a slew of people who are  
making major contributions, but of whom are not directly working on software  
development projects. This could include people who are managing  
distributions (ie building, maintaining, and packaging software, and writing  
bits of code here and there), spreading free software (in significant ways),  
advocating for release of code from within (think hardware too), designing  
chips/laptops/desktops/board that make it possible to run 100% software, and  
similar.


I can think of a dozen people I'd like to nominate and yet I have never  
nominated anyone as I haven't felt the awards were appropriate to the work  
they're/were doing. It's my main reason for abstaining. I don't feel that  
releasing code under a free software license in and of itself is deserving of  
a free software award. It's important, but it's not everything.





[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-09-18 Thread lcerf
With that logic, why not installing all window managers by default? The  
problem is it would not only eat up space on the installation ISO, but it  
would also mean more utilities (to choose the window manager and configure  
each of the the options), hence more confusion. ;-)


I use Mutter. GNOME 3's default, i.e., the window manager GNOME Shell uses.  
The evolution of Metacity. I specified keyboard shortcuts (in the related tab  
of the "Keyboard" utility in the "System settings") to jump to any of the ten  
first workspaces.


Re: [Trisquel-users] My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-18 Thread tomlukeywood

looks like it is free as in freedom software:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/skyscraper/files/Skyscraper/


Re: [Trisquel-users] My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-18 Thread chris

Yes.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread chris
I totally agree except I still wouldn't call it primarily software  
development work though. It's why I think there should be another award  
category. I think reverse engineering and other related work is as if not  
more important. However I'm not a big fan of that. I'd rather support the  
people from within who are getting companies to release code. I already know  
we have a few people here and there which are doing a tremendous amount of  
good at getting people at the top of particular companies to recognize there  
is a problem (ie complying with free software licenses and so on) and getting  
them to understand what needs to be done to solve non-compliance related  
issues (and/or release source if its not a compliance issue- ie they own the  
copyrights).


Re: [Trisquel-users] My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-18 Thread abhijithb21

Greetings Kiwis from the subcontinent! May I know if you like cricket?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread mcz

No one asked for that?
You should be the one concerned about bringing clarifications about your  
statements.


Ad-hominem: means responding to arguments by attacking a person's character,  
rather than addressing the content of their arguments.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem


Sure, most users (if not all) didn't reply to moxalt calling you a troll.  
Why, you ask? I don't know your whole posting history, but I can tell that  
calling names several times in a row (even if only in this thread) and being  
called a troll isn't incompatible.
And believe me, when you'll see a real troll posting here, no one will  
disagree with you calling him or her a troll.


I fail to see an injustice here.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread nicolasmaia
Reverse engineering is possibly the highest priority the FSF has at the  
moment. Plus, libreboot is not just about removing blobs, there's also work  
on automating scripts to make it user-friendly, as well as porting work done  
upstream at coreboot. IMO it's one of the most important fields of work on  
free software today. Firmware is our last frontier, and these people are  
tackling it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread onpon4
Funny, your idea of what free speech is reminds me of the crazy lady in this  
video I saw yesterday:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivq3Ukpy0Co

In fact, moxalt didn't just call you a troll, he included a speculation that  
you might be a troll given how absurd your post he was responding to was. But  
even if your narrative was correct, that still wouldn't mean you lack freedom  
of speech. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from dissent.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-18 Thread davesamcdxv
Theoretically though if they license unlicensed code under a free license it  
makes the software free - with those freeing them at the mercy of Google and  
American courts.


Or am I wrong?


Re: [Trisquel-users] OpenVPN - newer version?

2015-09-18 Thread chris

hmm,

I don't think that is going to be all that easy to do. I might switch VPN  
providers over it (even if that isn't a great answer). Unfortunately the  
other solution I'd probably go with is not ready yet (in a 100% free solution  
format that is, but we are working on it). What is that? OpenVPN support at  
the router level. You wouldn't need to run VPN software on the computer  
itself, just connect to it over an encrypted wifi connection (ie it tunnels  
all the traffic from the network over the VPN connection between the router  
and the VPN provider). libreCMC doesn't currently support OpenVPN, but we're  
trying to get the bugs worked out so users can adopt it on routers that have  
a sufficient amount of flash and ram. Once the next version of libreCMC is  
released that'll be the other option I'd recommend. It should enable more  
users to more easily adopt VPN for certain use cases. Hopefully we'll server  
support as well, or at some point down the road. That would open up more use  
cases. For example secure connections between a school network connection and  
a home network.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fundraiser for the Library Freedom Project; Now that the LFP beat DHS we need to spread Tor to other libraries. Will you help?

2015-09-18 Thread chris
* I should have also pointed out that Tor is an anonymous network and a Tor  
relay (what the library is running) helps people speaking anonymously online.  
Tor is Free Software and one of the organizations behind fighting DHS was the  
FSF.


[Trisquel-users] Fundraiser for the Library Freedom Project; Now that the LFP beat DHS we need to spread Tor to other libraries. Will you help?

2015-09-18 Thread chris
I made a $100 USD token gesture to support the Library Freedom Project, but  
it won't be enough. Will you help? Every small amount means helps another  
library get setup with running Tor. An important project that further ensures  
we're free to say and think regardless of what governments or other  
adversaries might want.


The link to donate is here:

https://libraryfreedomproject.org/donate/

To find out more about how the first small community of Lebanon beat DHS and  
secured its right to run a Tor relay check out the following article:


http://www.npr.org/2015/09/16/440914105/n-h-public-library-reconsiders-support-for-anonymous-internet-network-tor




Re: [Trisquel-users] Helping new users choose application software

2015-09-18 Thread moxalt
I'm probably coming at this from the wrong angle, but here goes: I don't even
support the presence of graphical package management in Trisquel. I don't use
it, don't recommend it, and (when helping others with/ installing GNU for
others) teach them the command-line way of doing things. I never understood the
need for graphical package management- although I concede that this makes
things 'easier' for the first-time user and more similar to the point-and-click
interfaces they are used to, frankly I don't think a user who isn't prepared to
get a terminal open should even be installing new packages and diving into the
often-times confusing world of GNU package management.

There are two main aims which must be kept in mind when considering introducing
people to the free software camp- of course, free software must be as
attractive and functional as possible in order to attract new users. This is
why I support a wide range of well-made user-friendly applications bundled
together with the wonderfully set up Trisquel DE in the default install, to
make things more hassle-free for those just dipping in to GNU for the first
time.

However, the cost of making everything require zero thought is twofold: it
leads to bad administration habits and potentially endangers the user's system,
and it also perpetuates the culture of ignorance that the corporate software
world breeds- the approach that presents users a *surface* upon which to do
their business without asking serious questions about what their computer is
doing, how, or why- or knowing about anything below the surface. This is
antithetical to the aims of free software and opposition to the culture of
ignorance- the creation of a free digital society in which all are participants.

What is the solution? Clearly the world of free software must be as attractive
as possible. However, we must also take care not to breed bad habits,
ignorance, and we must set people on the path to reasonable computer literacy-
a stage at which they have a decent understanding of what's going on behind the
scenes, aren't afraid to ask questions, and aren't afraid to get the command
line open and do some learning themselves.

The best way of doing this is two maintain two main installation options. The
first is a 'new user'-friendly ISO containing the Trisquel DE and stuffed with
as many good applications as possible. The other should be a minimalist
netinstall setup (like the current one) in which all installation options are
to be set by more experienced users who know what they want. Neither should
offer graphical package management.

Perhaps the 'user-friendly' CD could contain a link in the DE labelled
'Add/Remove Programs'. However, this should link to a help file explaining the
concepts behind GNU package management, and APT in particular, explaining (at
the start) just a few basics:

- APT configuration (such as the source list)
- adding, removing, and purging programs
- updating the package list and upgrading the system.

What do you think? It sounds a bit elitist, but I sincerely think this is the
way to start people on the path to terminal literacy.

This is also somewhat biased based on my own experience- my first distribution
of GNU+Linux was Debian, which I started with about a year ago. However, I
never touched Synaptic and taught myself how to do things the dpkg/apt-get way.
Simply being in contact with the terminal kickstarted me on the learning
process, and I am learning new things about GNU every day. The basics of
terminal package management aren't really that difficult to grasp- anyone can
learn.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread abhijithb21

Social networks are inconvenient for me; I don't directly use any.
My postings on GNU Social are generated from stallman.org
and I write them in emails.

- RMS


Re: [Trisquel-users] membership software for an association

2015-09-18 Thread adel

Thanks guys


[Trisquel-users] OpenVPN - newer version?

2015-09-18 Thread abjectio

Hi,

My VPN provider (owncube) has upgraded their backend and ask me to use a  
newer OpenVPN version. (I think it is because of TLS 1.2 support etc?)

The version I've got in my trisquel installation is 2.3.2 (Trisquel 7).
I'm satisfied with the way Trisquel works and how stable it is (for my use).

What is your advice to get the openvpn to a newer version, without breaking  
the default Trisquel installation? (At least not destroy it totally).


Tx in help.



Re: [Trisquel-users] My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-18 Thread onpon4
Actually, while Freeciv has rulesets that try to emulate Civ 1 and Civ 2, the  
primary ruleset is distinct in quite a few ways, and the Freeciv engine  
supports many things these games don't support.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-18 Thread greatgnu
agree. We have a lot of free software. We need free hardware or at least  
hardware that is not backdoored.

Rowe it is for me.


Re: [Trisquel-users] OpenVPN - newer version?

2015-09-18 Thread abjectio
Tx for commenting Chris. Using OpenVPN seems like a neat solution, however my  
vendor not might support the OpenVPN version which is provided with the  
router as well?
Switching vendor is not an option :) - sorry. Have a great deal (life time  
for a few buckets) and access to 17 countries.