Re: [Trisquel-users] DuckDuckGo Ups Ante: Gives $300K to ‘Raise the Standard of Trust

2017-02-16 Thread will . hillnotes

OK, here's a citation.

www.muktware.com/articles/3058/duckduckgo-doesnt-show-leading-open-source-projects-google-does

http://www.youtube.com/embed/jtR6bFS1KPs

If you can't load the article directly, there's a copy at the Internet  
Archive.


I tried a few searches myself and got similar results.  That does not prove  
malice on DDG's part, but it does show you that you can't trust them to get  
things right.  Microsoft is so malicious that it is folly, if not intentional  
malice, to pass them on the way DDG does.


If the only way to protect your privacy is to go through a proxy, why is DDG  
given preferential treatment?  Doesn't that mean their promise is meaningless  
even if they had the technical competence and legal framework required to  
keep it?




Re: [Trisquel-users] DuckDuckGo Ups Ante: Gives $300K to ‘Raise the Standard of Trust

2017-02-16 Thread onpon4

> DDG hides free software results like Bing does

We went over this years ago. DDG gets its search results from several  
different sources and mixes them together. We don't know exactly how this  
works (since DDG's backend hasn't been released), but there is no evidence of  
DDG's results being censored, irrespective of whether or not Bing does so.


> People have documented DDG hiding free software results in the same way  
Bing does.


Citation needed.

> A company that does these things can not be trusted to protect your  
privacy.


No company can be trusted with your privacy. What's your point? It has  
nothing to do with charity work.


For searching, the only way to ensure your privacy is to go through a proxy  
(e.g. Tor). Everyone should do this. You could say that DuckDuckGo is not any  
better than Google (except to the extent that you like its search results  
better), but there's no evidence that it's any worse.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What computers do fsf have?

2017-02-16 Thread will . hillnotes

Try

https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/

and

http://h-node.org/

The FSF has moved to respects your freedom certified hardware for desktops.   
That means the hardware is free from the firmware and up, and uses a GNU  
endorsed operating system like Trisquel.  At last year's LibrePlanet, I  
mostly saw X60 laptops on thier desks.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] DuckDuckGo Ups Ante: Gives $300K to ‘Raise the Standard of Trust

2017-02-16 Thread will . hillnotes
DDG hides free software results like and sends adverting money to Microsoft.   
DDG dillutes search results with Microsoft's free software hostile, filtered  
copy of Google results.  People have documented DDG hiding free software  
results in the same way Bing does.  You pay for that service through  
advertising.  A company that does these things can not be trusted to protect  
your privacy.  I provide links to these and other claims in my write up,  
mentioned above.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] DuckDuckGo Ups Ante: Gives $300K to ‘Raise the Standard of Trust

2017-02-16 Thread onpon4

> they use Bing for search results

Doesn't matter.

> scrutinized Google without critisizing Microsoft

Who cares?


Re: [Trisquel-users] DuckDuckGo Ups Ante: Gives $300K to ‘Raise the Standard of Trust

2017-02-16 Thread eloi . igor

Interesting point...


Re: [Trisquel-users] DuckDuckGo Ups Ante: Gives $300K to ‘Raise the Standard of Trust

2017-02-16 Thread will . hillnotes
I'm sorry, but I do not trust Duck Duck Go.  This is mostly becuase they use  
Bing for search results and have scrutinized Google without critisizing  
Microsoft.  I detail this and other problems here,


http://50.81.205.197/photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/2013_06_21-avoid_duck_duck_go/

If any of those problems have been corrected, I'd like to know.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Second monitor with WindowMaker

2017-02-16 Thread will . hillnotes
Have you tried Arandr?  It's a GUI front end to xrandr that gives you both  
drag and drop monitor manipulation and a command line that you can use to  
write your own scripts.  I use it with Enlightenment, on Debian and GNewSense  
but I see that it's also packaged for Trisquel.  I've also used Krandrtray  
and a much older version of Gnome's randr front end and, and have probably  
done so with Window Maker, so I'm not sure why this is not working for you.


The only thing that's tricky about Arandr, and GUI managers in general, is  
that you have to drag a monitor around to see the second monitor under it.   
Arandr starts up with the two monitors in the same place so one might hide  
the other.  Krandrtray does not have this problem but you have to right click  
your way into things to activate the external screen.


A prior forum post,

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/adding-3rd-monitor

A page with links to some of my own use of external monitors,

http://50.81.205.197/photo_album/chron/desktop/external_monitors.html

I'd like to see some screenshots of your success or failure.  Best wishes and  
happy hacking.


Re: [Trisquel-users] User rights

2017-02-16 Thread onpon4

It only takes one different UID to throw you off. :)

I prefer to use FAT where it is sufficient (i.e. you don't need to store big  
files), and NTFS otherwise. Much simpler.


Re: [Trisquel-users] User rights

2017-02-16 Thread onpon4
Not "disk ID", the owner(s) of the files and directories. You'll find this  
out by right-clicking on a file and choosing "Properties", then going to the  
"Permissions" tab.


You'll also be able to use root here to change the owner, or you can more  
simply use the "chown" command.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Cinnamon - again

2017-02-16 Thread greatgnu

Hmm, Trisquel doesn't have it? Had no idea.
Well, the easy way, if you are ok with running a non endorsed but libre  
distro is you download the Debian Cinnamon ISO.


http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/


 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Second monitor with WindowMaker

2017-02-16 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
What is the expected behavior that you want exactly? For example, I
don't have another monitor, but I see that some people might want one of
these behaviors:

a. Only one user involved. Half of the screen in first monitor, and
   second half on the other, so that when the mouse or something else
   reaches the edge of one of the screens, the other displayes the
   reminder of the object.
b. Only one user involved. Each monitor with it's own desktop space (no
   object splitting).
c. Two users involved. Each monitor for each user.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-16 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I'm not sure how GNOME works, but perhaps we must restart your current
user seesion for the icons to take effect. Simply go to the applications
menu (the one with Trisquel logo), and go to "close/end session" this
will close all your current applications, so make sure to save things or
to have your documents edited through applications like GNU Screen and
GNU Emacs.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Cinnamon - again

2017-02-16 Thread eloi . igor
I do not contribute, but in my personal experience I learned that one should  
never exchange the functionality for the beauty of anything. I tried many DE,  
but I can't stay long away from MATE. If you like cinnamon, you might as well  
continue to use it. If you really want to take a dip in some other DE, you  
might as well go for it. Not looking back.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Second monitor with WindowMaker

2017-02-16 Thread keiyamashita
Can you post the output of xrandr --query when you're in Window Maker with  
the second monitor attached?


[Trisquel-users] Second monitor with WindowMaker

2017-02-16 Thread mantra-mind

Hello,

I usually use WindowMaker that was installed on my computer with one monitor.  
Recently I bought a second monitor and the add it on my configuration. There  
is no problem with trisquel window manager but with wmaker the second monitor  
is black. I tried to set up via display in gnome-control-center without  
success.


Can you help me, any idea ?

Also I explained my problem on Freenode #windowmaker with xrandr --query as  
solution but nothing happends.


I'm surprised because I tried on debian jessy and it works.

Thanks for your answers.


[Trisquel-users] Cinnamon - again

2017-02-16 Thread jbahn
I used to use Cinnamon DE but for now I'm trying out xfce. It's pretty ok but  
I just miss Cinnamon. I'm also using Mate - just to get used to it, when  
Trisquel 8 goes beta. But it just isn't the same. I would really like  
Cinnamon DE on my Trisquel.


I know I can just add a ppa and install from that, but I would really like to  
ensure that I can keep trusting the software and I'm dreaming of Cinnamon DE  
as a package in the Trisquel repository.


I have no near the knowledge necessary to do whatever is needed for this. Is  
there anybody out there who can help - at least to begin the project of  
preparing Cinnamon for Trisquel? Of course I would like to contribute in some  
way.


On my bleeding knees... 


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-16 Thread g . smyli

ADFENO, thank you for those instructions, here is a summary of what I did.
My install of Flidas did not have a .local/share/icons directory so I added  
the step to make it.


**Installing brasero via guix package with goal of getting it into the main  
menu.**


cd ~/.local/share
mkdir icons

guix package -i adwaita-icon-theme
guix package -i hicolor-icon-theme

cd icons
ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/icons/Adwaita"
ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/icons/hicolor"

guix package -i brasero

cd ~/.local/share/applications
ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/applications/brasero.desktop"

After these steps I saw an entry for Brasero in the 'Sound and Video' section  
of Main Menu but the icon was generic. It sort of looks like a square piece  
of black film with the lower right corner curled up. I used doolio's tip:  
Control Center > Main Menu > Sound and Video > Brasero > (left click)  
Properties > and click on the icon upper right corner > and navigated to  
~/.local/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/brasero.png > Open and the icon  
showed up in the Control Center > Main Menu dialog. It did not show up in the  
actual Main Menu but after I rebooted, it was there. And clicking on it  
brings up Brasero so all is good for Brasero.


It seems like Control Center > Appearance should list the Adwaita Theme but  
it does not. It seems like selection of an appropriate icon should be  
automatic (and now after a reboot maybe it will be, I'll look for another  
package from the guix packages to install).


Thanks again for you guidance, it has been a big help. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] User rights

2017-02-16 Thread jbahn
I so often have experiences like this. I have never thought of the user id  
thing, so I'll check, though I hardly think so Most of my machines run  
Trisquel, which will all assign the same user ids since I set them up in the  
same fashion. For work I use Mint but as I recall they provide the same  
standard user ids (numbers)


If you reach reliable answers and/or procedures, please let us know


[Trisquel-users] How can I make a dot desktop file for Enlightenment Version 1.0x (AKA DR16 or E16)?

2017-02-16 Thread will . hillnotes
I recently made E16 work on Trisquel but I can't make it start from a display  
manager.  I copied an existing desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions and  
pointed to the enlightenment binary but choosing it from the pulldown menu  
just gives me a blank screen.  I can make E16 start by leaving the screen  
blank and launching the command from a virtual console.


Anyone who's interested can find details here,

http://50.81.205.197/photo_album/chron/2017/2017_02_03-trisquel_e16_gnome/


Re: [Trisquel-users] User rights

2017-02-16 Thread jbahn

ditto


Re: [Trisquel-users] Replicant 6.0 on S2

2017-02-16 Thread jbahn

Not to my knowledge but they should not be that hard to find second hand


Re: [Trisquel-users] User rights

2017-02-16 Thread mcz

Ok first simple test :
a non-encrypted drive in ext4 which I can't safely remove (With Nautilus) on  
my install (not authorized to perform operation).
Yet on a normal Trisquel install, while I have to force the action since it  
says the drive is busy, it just works.


The disk ID is a weird format like 0x00randomchars (different from the  
internal disk and it's LUKS partitions),

whereas my user ID is four numbers.

But you know what, I just tested it on a Debian netinstall, it works also.  
It's probably a faulty install, it's probably easier to start over. Plus it's  
a clue that it's not a HDD issue (gotta test further though).


Re: [Trisquel-users] User rights

2017-02-16 Thread mcz

Oh right, I can see the double-meaning now.

Well, thankfully free-software takes care of what you mean.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Do you play games with a libre engine but proprietary data? Any advice? What are some of the ethical pitfall?

2017-02-16 Thread mcz
if we're still talking about using another Windows PC strictly for gaming, to  
me it's not only more complicated, it also uses more resources (VM), and I  
really don't see any benefit.


If the cam and mic are your concern, I'd rather tape some paper on the cam,  
and some tissue on the mic to dampen the sound.

You can even test the results.

But again, that's an extreme solution for someone who REALLY can't live  
without PC proprietary games (which isn't my case at all). It allows to give  
a minimum of personal information  (the games you play, the people you play  
with, your credit card andrelated data like name/adress, but not much beyond  
that if you treat it like a console.

That's assuming there's another PC would run a libre OS exclusively.

Of course it has a cost.
But if I had to do it, I'd do it that way.


[Trisquel-users] DuckDuckGo Ups Ante: Gives $300K to ‘Raise the Standard of Trust

2017-02-16 Thread grandizo
"For the seventh year in a row, the search engine that promises not to stalk  
your online moves puts its money where its mouth is, this year by donating  
$300,000 to organizations that work towards online privacy".


Source:  
https://fossforce.com/2017/02/duckduckgo-ups-ante-gives-300k-raise-standard-trust/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Replicant 6.0 on S2

2017-02-16 Thread svhaab
Is the samsung s2 being manufactured? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Musix revives

2017-02-16 Thread calmstorm

This looks interesting, I feel like we should help him.

This could be very helpful in the future.


[Trisquel-users] Musix revives

2017-02-16 Thread seimirchaplin

https://musixdistro.wordpress.com/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Do you play games with a libre engine but proprietary data? Any advice? What are some of the ethical pitfall?

2017-02-16 Thread stas . mihaylenko

Original source code is non-free.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New to Trisquel - Audio is flickering between speaker and audio jack

2017-02-16 Thread greatgnu
Hmm, I hear you can import the csv into keepass2, then you can export that  
one into keepassX.

A pain in the bottom but doable, if so.



Re: [Trisquel-users] webmail services

2017-02-16 Thread greatgnu
well, we all are smart in few things and dumb in many others, sure. But even  
a computer illiterate, the one that only knows to read English, point and  
click with a mouse and can remember two instructions, can learn how to use it  
in, well, let's say 15 minutes :)


I'm not talking about learning gpg, how it works, the best practices to  
employ, etc
What I'm talking about is the very basic usage. The GUI is so clear and  
intuitive I really think anyone can catch up with it very quickly. It doesn't  
take a deep knowledge of gpg to use it correctly - all one needs to do is  
create a key pair (via GUI), select encrypt (via GUI), click on an encrypted  
mail and insert the passphrase to decrypt it.
Or am I wrong? I haven't used enigmail in a long while but I remember it as  
an extremely easy to use and clear GUI.


If a contact of yours has issues with it, why don't you send them a tiny  
guide. I recommend you don't send them a link for a website, but instead try  
to write one and make it as brief and clear (as if they were 5).






Re: [Trisquel-users] New to Trisquel - Audio is flickering between speaker and audio jack

2017-02-16 Thread dirkzuechner
I used/use Lastpass for quite sometime and I looked in KeePassX but it can  
not import the lastpass csv file.


So, it is useless if you come from LastPass.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New to Trisquel - Audio is flickering between speaker and audio jack

2017-02-16 Thread dirkzuechner
Yes, this problem was known for me a long time ago with Debian and then never  
came back until now with Trisquel.


By the way, I always have to reset my password, it never ever works to login  
a 2nd time (at the forum).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Replicant 6.0 on S2

2017-02-16 Thread jbahn

Have you tried it?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Replicant 6.0 on S2

2017-02-16 Thread jbahn

Thanks, Fil.

Sorry for the late response. I'll reposnd on the replicant forum later too.


Re: [Trisquel-users] webmail services

2017-02-16 Thread jbahn

An then of course there is the issue of whether the receiver using pgp


Re: [Trisquel-users] webmail services

2017-02-16 Thread jbahn
If you don't mind me asking, is there any particular reason you or your wife  
want an alternative to GMail?

I don't as such, but what is the story of and about your nick?


Re: [Trisquel-users] webmail services

2017-02-16 Thread jbahn

Anything is better than a google service as far as privacy
I agree

Enigmail with icedove takes 5 minutes to understand and employ, even for  
absolute computer illiterates


I do not agree

Being an itiot - or computer illiterate as you put it - I know for a fact  
that things are not as easy as you formulate it here. I have spend hours and  
hours on trying to figure it out - an I'm not done yet.


Furthermore, most people just can not live without web mail! I think I'll  
give mailvelope a shot once, to see if it's something to introduce to web  
mail addicts.


Re: [Trisquel-users] webmail services

2017-02-16 Thread jbahn

Thanks.

I might give it go then.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-16 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I forgot to continue writting:

In this later case of misbehaving .desktop file, it's often needed to
*copy* the .desktop file that is made available in the Guix profile of
the current user, and modify it for your needes. When done, perhaps you
can send a git/unified patch to Guix project so that they apply your
modifications (and you also get the chance to put your copyright holder
line in the relevant files, so you can participate in some decision
making and license compliance enforcement in the future, if you so desire).


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-16 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
* Why somethings are missing?

Guix is managed *per-user* , so one must do most things per-user
depending on what must be done. Of course, somethings aren't needed,
e.g.: Installing graphical programs or icon themes for root user
(because root user doesn't really use these that much).

* Regarding missing icons

Install "adwaita-icon-theme" and "hicolor-icon-theme" from Guix, then
make a symbolic link to the resulting "Adwaita" and "hicolor"
directories (that are inside the user's Guix profile), like so:

(Note: remember to use `ln` with the `-s`/`--symbolic` option, and keep
paths relative so that things are easier to move around to other
computers or users, that is, remember to use the the triple "../" shown
here).

$ cd ".local/share/icons"
$ ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/icons/Adwaita"
$ ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/icons/hicolor"

* Missing application launchers in the menu

After installing an application, their .desktop files (application
launchers) are available in "$GUIX_PROFILE/share/applications".

For example, suppose I just installed GnuCash and Icecat for my current
user, then I do:

$ cd ".local/share/applications"
$ ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/applications/gnucash.desktop"
$ ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/applications/icecat.desktop"

Some applications still don't have the .desktop file, or it's not doing
all that it's supposed to do (e.g.: *Suppose* VLC doesn't appear in the
"Open with" right-mouse menu when clicking on some files, then this
might be an issue with the vlc.desktop file, or with your user's "mime"*
files in the same directory (".local/share/applications") or in
"/usr/share/applications", or in some other place people knowledgeable
of customization might have to englighten us. ;)