Re: [Trisquel-users] Paypal is totally out of my circle of confidence, ebay might come to be.

2017-03-24 Thread onpon4
Or rather, Ebay owns PayPal. If I'm not mistaken, PayPal was started  
specifically as something for Ebay to use.


In any case, this is definitely an off-topic thing, so it should really be in  
the Troll Lounge


Re: [Trisquel-users] BIOS firmware on ARM

2017-03-24 Thread lilos1
Depend on ARM chip but if you talking for dev boards AMlogic or Rockchip or  
Allwiner then yes.
I think big problem is now in sofware cos if we talking for security linux  
kernel is very big and very small number of

people can understand it even is open source.


[Trisquel-users] BIOS firmware on ARM

2017-03-24 Thread cyberdevoper
Intel have ME,AMD have PSP,what does the ARM have and how much depends on its  
architecture type and vendor?
This is not clear to me,as i could see most of their BIOS are short and do  
not have many options like on x86 and/or its not made to be accessed on such  
way.


Can someone explain me this thematics,for example would i be more secure with  
newest AMlogic or Rockchip or Allwiner and similar boards(CPU/GPU) rather  
than newest intel/amd chipesets?


Regards and have a nice day.


[Trisquel-users] weird output during boot with linux-libre 4.9

2017-03-24 Thread gnuser
Hey everyone. I am using jxself's PPA to get linux libre 4.9 LTS, on my  
Trisquel 7.
Previously when I was using 3.4 I would get no output during boot, it was  
fast and the only stuff appearing on  the screen was asking for my password  
(full disk encryption).
Ever since updating to 4.9, it appears a lot of messages about the missing  
free firmware (related to my GPU I believe, which is ok, I don't use the  
non-free firmware) and some messages about "ata2 softreset failed". Or  
something like that.
It also takes a lot more time to boot. About 15 seconds longer than before.  
Should I worry or is there I can do to put it fast like before?


Thanks.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread vitacell
Linux=component for an operating system (not necessary must to be GNU)(Linux  
it is not a program of GNU project)

GNU=operating system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system

HURD=GNU Project program (kernel)(this kernel supposed to be GNU's kernel)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread vitacell
You can play any game if you have Nvidia's Kepler card, gtx770 and gt730 with  
gddr5 are fine. You just reclock a Kepler card manually and play. Those card  
are working with fully free operating system, blobless.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Waiting for Trisquel 8 (Flidas)

2017-03-24 Thread ewlabonte

tg3 enjoys bitching.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Paypal is totally out of my circle of confidence, ebay might come to be.

2017-03-24 Thread enduzzer

I'n not sure what happened but Paypal owns Ebay.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Paypal is totally out of my circle of confidence, ebay might come to be.

2017-03-24 Thread mkl80
The ebay picture to prove what I said... The one back apparently is not  
available.

Thanks again


[Trisquel-users] Paypal is totally out of my circle of confidence, ebay might come to be.

2017-03-24 Thread mkl80
First of all a big hello to this wonderful community, fighters for the  
freedom and some justice in this vast cynical world: a big hug with love to  
all.
Second, I am a little bit in rage mode, and third, English is not my mother  
tong, so I might commit some errors expressing myself an this two last  
factors may have some influence in it.
So let me say for me paypal=garbage. I am tired of the dishonest behaviour of  
them, so I exclude them totally of my white list so for me paypal is totally  
equal to sh*t. But enough talking, lets support my saying with some facts.
First, in the past when I had an account, when I had a problem with some item  
that I bought on ebay the reffund was going directly to my account. Some time  
after the refund would go to the paypal account, and no matter what I did, I  
can't redeem it to my bank account. But ok I give them a pass on that... Them  
some time after they ask to Withdraw money from my account in order to  
certify my card, and said that they will give the money back if I give them  
back some 4 digit code  that appears on the transaction. I agree, and guess  
what: they send me not a 4-digit code but a 3 digit (see atachment!). That  
was the drop of water for me, they stole me 1.50€, and OK I closed my  
account immediately. They never ask me why I was leaving or why I take that  
decision, nothing! And I was with paypal doing purchases on ebay mostly by  
almost 3 years. Great!
Then I started purchasing on ebay by using my debit card directly, no problem  
so far until 3 days ago. I bought an hdd by the price 19.34 and in my bank  
account was withdrawn 20.14. I call the bank and they said that PAYPAL has  
withdrawn the 20.14€. Paypal again? I become to realyze that paypal always  
has a part on the process of doing purchases on ebay, always, even if it is  
with your direct debit card! So I send this message to ebay (I totally refuse  
to talk with paypal!):

"I have this problem:
I bought an item recently in the value of 19.34€, but in my bank account I  
was withdraw 20.14€.
I had call to the bank and the bank said that paypal has discounted that  
value in my account and that I could make a police case if I want to.
1 I had bad experiences with paypal after, and I recently close my paypal  
account for that matters, and starting paying the items I purchase with  
my debit card directly. Now I come to realize that paypal still have a part  
on the process of me buying on ebay! I am not pleased with that!
It's not by the value per se but buy the attitude: I'd like to have my  
questions above clarified and I would like to have the money difference  
(0.80€)  in my account, please.

More: I will not talk to paypal, they want they call me.
Thank you very much, I will looking forward for an answer."

And I am waiting for an answer from their part. If they give me an  
unsatisfactory response I will end up right away with ebay! I simply can not  
deal with a person that is primary partner is a total dishonest guy, I  
exclude both!


I am furious with them, and obviously it is not by the values 'per se' it is  
the attitude. How can I trust making future purchases, if I don't have  
confident on them, I will never know the value that they will withdraw from  
me! Unacceptable!


What is your experience with paypal, and ebay for that matters?
where and how do you do your purchases?

(see atachments, this is not small talk, I prove what I say.)

Bye and best of the world for you.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread onpon4
The libre driver is included in Linux (and Linux-libre), so you wouldn't have  
to install it. That driver is Nouveau, and the Nouveau website has a page  
documenting support for the various features of the cards:


https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/

In general, the standard advice if something doesn't work is to try the  
latest version of Linux-libre (jxself supplies one here). If that doesn't  
work, you'll have to wait a few years for Nouveau to catch up, remove it and  
use integrated graphics instead (good choice if you have an Intel CPU, not  
any use if you have an AMD CPU), or replace the card with an older model that  
Nouveau supports.


By the way, regarding whether or not being a "product" exempts games from  
needing to be libre: if that were the case, that would exempt Windows,  
Microsoft Office, the various Adobe programs, etc. These are all considered  
to be "products", too. The simple fact is that just as they are proprietary  
software, proprietary games are proprietary software.


I suggest you should never financially support proprietary game developers,  
and instead support development of libre games. You can do this by supporting  
crowdfunding campaigns (such as my recent campaign for Hexoshi), or by  
donating to projects/developers you like.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread tomlukeywood
"But would it be possible to use my nvidia card with free drivers and still  
being able to run the 3d graphics when running a game?"


It would depend what model of NVidia card you have you can check If it will  
work with free software here:

https://h-node.org/

If you have the right model of GPU and its powerful enough then you  
definitely can run amazing 3D games like:

https://play0ad.com/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread Maarten
I understand the difference now, someone sent a link with the 
explanation of the naming convention.


On 2017-03-24 15:02, enduz...@riseup.net wrote:

The op thinks that GNU/Linux = Libre. GNU slash Linux is only a naming
 convention, designed to put stress on the component parts of the
system so  that the GNU project is given equal credit.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread Maarten
Ok that explains a lot. Thanks! I could have worded that last question 
differently, I wouldn't expect games
to be free since they are a product. But would it be possible to use my 
nvidia card with free drivers and

still being able to run the 3d graphics when running a game?


On 2017-03-24 14:24, tomlukeyw...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:

"what's the advantage of using GNU/Linux distro over a distro like
fedora/redhat?"

Fedora and Redhat are GNU/Linux distro's many people in the free
software  community chose to call what most people call "Linux"
"GNU/Linux" the reason  for this is explained here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy and here:
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.en.html

The advantage of Trisquel over Fedora is it includes exclusively free
software so you have full control over your operating system and can
know  everything that your OS is doing.

Some of the advantages of free software are explained here:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.en.html

"would I be able to use alternative drivers to nvidia drivers so that
I still  can play games under Linux via steam or wine?"

You would be able to but as you would most likely be running non-free
software it defeats the point of running Trisquel somewhat.





Re: [Trisquel-users] I have a few questions

2017-03-24 Thread leoo
Your comments in this thread (and in the link you provide) are terrific.   
Principled, informative, innovative, focused, and important.


[Trisquel-users] GnuBee open NAS

2017-03-24 Thread lilos1

One very intersting mips open NAS device.

http://www.iot-dev.net/full.php?ar=134




Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread onpon4
That's a malformed question. Fedora is a GNU/Linux distro. What you mean to  
ask about is operating systems which are compliant with GNU FSDG. And the  
advantage is simple: none of the official channels of software distribution  
for these systems contain any proprietary software. That's the only advantage  
the FSF strives for.


By the way, Fedora actually has a very clear policy which only allows  
proprietary firmware in its repository. You can blacklist these firmware  
blobs and replace Linux with Linux-libre in Fedora using a package called  
"Freed-ora":


http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/freed-ora.en.html

Red Hat Enterprise Linux, by the way, has roughly the same policy as Fedora.  
I'm not entirely sure, but I think the "one exception" the FSF speaks of is  
to do with Red Hat trademarks.


> would I be able to use alternative drivers to nvidia drivers so that I
> still can play games under linux via steam or wine?

Probably, but that would kind of defeat the purpose of using a completely  
libre OS.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread tomlukeywood
"what's the advantage of using GNU/Linux distro over a distro like  
fedora/redhat?"


Fedora and Redhat are GNU/Linux distro's many people in the free software  
community chose to call what most people call "Linux" "GNU/Linux" the reason  
for this is explained here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy and here:  
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.en.html


The advantage of Trisquel over Fedora is it includes exclusively free  
software so you have full control over your operating system and can know  
everything that your OS is doing.


Some of the advantages of free software are explained here:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.en.html

"would I be able to use alternative drivers to nvidia drivers so that I still  
can play games under Linux via steam or wine?"


You would be able to but as you would most likely be running non-free  
software it defeats the point of running Trisquel somewhat.


[Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread Maarten

Hello All,

I have a question about GNU/Linux distros, what's the advantage of using 
GNU/Linux distro over a distro like fedora/redhat? I use centos for 
servers I run, and fedora for my desktop machines. If I were to switch 
my desktop/laptops to a GNU/Linux distro(like trisquel or gnewsense) 
would I be able to use alternative drivers to nvidia drivers so that I 
still can play games under linux via steam or wine?