Re: [Trisquel-users] Community guidelines question
Noted! I've added a section to my blog's privacy policy accordingly: https://bobstechsite.com/privacy-policy/ Hopefully the fix just involves hacking the theme package I'm using to use locally-hosted versions of the fonts. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Writing my ‘common distros’ for us in 2018
Since that is my own user page there then I need to begin a topic for you. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Adding free software not found in Ubuntu like OpenRC?
Honestly I am using A TORRENT of operating systems which a number of them are based on the OpenRC init system, esp Parabola, TrueOS, Hyperbola, Devuan, nonfree Calculate. I thus dnt worry running OpenRC and systemd at parallel, though being an init freedom member here.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Adding free software not found in Ubuntu like OpenRC?
So I'm not standing for that OpenRC is a single package, instead in fact OpenRC is a group of packages and being an eco-system of init scrpits. This eco-system is popular under the no-systemd or init freedom communities.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Adding free software not found in Ubuntu like OpenRC?
D system then are you kidding? Honestly and truely systemd is an init system like OpenRC.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser
> The clarifications I made just for the sake > of better mutual understanding, not in order to oppose for the > sport of it (which would be quite silly). I believe you. > Initially I shared my findings then tried to explain that careful > observation, questioning, testing (and _not_ trusting an > authority) is what leads to truth. I appreciate that, but since then you have seemed to only mistrust free software developers by default, refusing to accept their software if you can't understand every line of code yourself to prove that it is perfect, while you seem quite trusting of Google, putting the burden on people here who aren't even interested in non-free software like Chromium to use their time to audit it for you to prove that it *isn't* perfect. > You seem to expect me to give > an answer to all these questions which I may not have or for which > others may be aware of recent researches on the matter and so on. No, I had honestly misunderstood you as having said that you had some sort of suggestion. I wasn't trying to be flippant. It is fine to point out a problem even though you don't have a solution yourself, as long as your approach is conducive to finding a solution. > We can all together look at the deeper issues and hopefully come > to something. That's why I opened the other thread (as suggested > in the Troll Lounge) as this is not web browser and not Trisquel > related: Your new thread, like your comments here, is about an important topic. However, it doesn't really add anything new. We already know that no software is perfect, even software under community control. A specific proposal (even if it is not a complete solution) to improve it would be interestng, but simply saying that you don't think software is privacy-repsecting enough doesn't help anyone to improve it. I think you have touched on some ideas that are concretely helpful, but seem to have gotten sidetracked by broad questions with no helpful answers. I suggest staying focused. Take any questions you have about browsers to the developers, keeping in mind that the specific situation you are testing is not the be-all-end-all and that as Magic Banana as explained there are some compromises inherent to the system (browser developers do not get to decide how the internet works), but that if their decisions are making some users unhappy they may address or at least explain them, and that if the browser is free software than a fork may be able and more willing to make a change that the original developer is not.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Videotelephony on Trisquel 7
An XMPP account is required. It looks like an email address because, like email servers, XMPP servers are federated: you can communicate with somebody in another domain.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Videotelephony on Trisquel 7
I see, thanks. so a mail adress is required?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Adding free software not found in Ubuntu like OpenRC?
>what's systemD It's D system, also known as da system aka the very blonde humble init :) USE A SEARCH ENGINE GODDAMIT!! :
Re: [Trisquel-users] Community guidelines question
You are welcome, keep it up snowden-voice m8 :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Writing my ‘common distros’ for us in 2018
Much obliged, sir, and well worth any effort it winds up taking on my part. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Adding free software not found in Ubuntu like OpenRC?
(cont) a large reunion of extended family that have put a lot of time and money into all coming together: it's not polite to talk about here. There are other places where you can gather information and make your own decisions, but I would highly recommend just not stressing over it too much right now. Trisquel 7 does not use systemd. Trisquel 8 and beyond does.
[Trisquel-users] Re : FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
Please read the thread, which had better stay dead imho. The lengthy discussion about systemd start here: https://trisquel.info/forum/fsf-adds-pureos-list-endorsed-gnulinux-distributions?page=1#comment-125187
Re: [Trisquel-users] Adding free software not found in Ubuntu like OpenRC?
Mr. Scania, I'm going to try to answer you first. I do not think that there are any plans currently in the works because init freedom is not within the scope of this project. I do, however, see a lot more interest in free software among the init freedom community. You probably aren't familiar with the term "fly on the wall" so will "lurker" do for now? I mean that I am not a software engineer or an active member of this community, just somebody who is interested. I can give you a road map but I can't take you there. Does that make sense? GrevenGull, I left windows in a different era so this is just the best I can do. Systemd is to the Gnu/Linux community as religion or politics is to
[Trisquel-users] Re : Adding free software not found in Ubuntu like OpenRC?
@GrevenGull: please read previous threads on the subject in this forum. Let us not start yet another. The most recent lengthy discussion starts here: https://trisquel.info/forum/fsf-adds-pureos-list-endorsed-gnulinux-distributions?page=1#comment-125187 @gd_scania: it is not the OpenRC package itself that would give much work. It is maintaining tens (hundreds?) of init scripts for it.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Videotelephony on Trisquel 7
Only the username (what comes before "@"), the domain (what comes after "@") and the password are required.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is PyCharm free software?
Just be careful though, best sources are still the repositories of free/libre distros, and directory.fsf.org. And pay attention to versions, sometimes they matter in respect to freedom status. AlternativeTo has non-free JS, and confuses free/libre with open source. 2017-12-22T20:12:41+0100 masonh...@gmail.com wrote: > It looks like the community edition you link to is libre. It looks > like the products available for download from Jetbrains' site, > including PyCharm Profession, are not due to their EULA. > > I use IDLE for simple Python programs and Eclipse for larger > ones. Here's a good resource for finding libre alternatives to > non-free programs. > > https://alternativeto.net/software/pycharm/?license=opensource > -- - https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno - Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com gratis). - "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre. Por favor, veja formas de se comunicar instantaneamente comigo no endereço abaixo. - Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard - Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV. - Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Community guidelines question
If I remember well, I used https://google-webfonts-helper.herokuapp.com/fonts to download from Google the Open Sans font I self-host and use on http://dcc.ufmg.br/~lcerf (By the way: anyone knows what to write to get 1) the banana staying below the menu and 2) the presentation text always vertically centered with the banana... even on cell phone where the width of the screen is tiny?)
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to start contribute
Also: there's this new pc thing now which are supposed to be all free hardware, I don't remember the name but it's a small thing you can just put anywhere (the size of mobile phone ca) and it works like a pc, and it's supposed to be all free hardware. I might be wrong.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Adding free software not found in Ubuntu like OpenRC?
I'm just gonna shoot a question here: What's up with systemd and why do people freak out about it?
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
What is systemd? And why do you dislike it?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?
nice
Re: [Trisquel-users] Kernel questions and Intel ME
smooth
Re: [Trisquel-users] Kernel questions and Intel ME
roger that
Re: [Trisquel-users] Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?
thanks. menuconfig worked all the time, but it hurt my eyes :p anyway I got it to work by simply copying all the error text and paste in the duckduckgo search. which handed me two results, of which the first link (if I remember correctly) was a website called something-something-bin. And there it was all along. I would like to take this opportunity to pardon that I didn't copy the error text and paste it in the duckduckgo search before opening the post. Also thank you for the guidance.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Videotelephony on Trisquel 7
When I click "Add account" in Pidgin and choose the XMPP protocol, there are tons of option, what does all those options mean? Some options are quite obvious like username and password, other are very techie.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Community guidelines question
Thank you! :) I can't speak for other people, but in my case the reason I'm using the Google fonts API is because it was already bundled with Ghost and the MIT-licensed theme I use with it. The fonts themselves are licensed under the SIL Open Font License (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIL_Open_Font_License), so I guess the main question that needs answering is whether fetching the fonts from Google's servers has an impact on privacy. In my case there's some damage limitation because they're probably being fetched from Cloudflare's caches rather than directly from Google's mirrors! But if there is a compelling reason to replace them then I'm guessing it'd need me to learn Node, do some dev work and take a visit to the Open Font Library! (https://fontlibrary.org/)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Community guidelines question
SuperTramp83 said: You are good at it. your voice is pleasant. Also, I kept thinking about Snowden all the time while listening to you :Pwill put If his voice is pleasant, Ill guess my voice is like snoring in a quiet almost noiseless room and you are trying to sleep off your hang over, and your headache is aggravated with my loud snorting , lets not forget, my continuous smelly silent farts in motion. to think of snowden, Are you wanting to have legal problems with the feds? This could be happening at the end of the month, when the democrats will try to shut down the government because of the new fiscal budget. and that is no joke For millions of Americans.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Community guidelines question
One more compatible, and alternative, way of using fonts in websites (instead of (Google fonts API): use generic-family mainly. ;) 2018-01-16T13:25:19+0100 great...@riseup.net wrote: > You are good at it. your voice is pleasant. Also, I kept thinking > about Snowden all the time while listening to you :P > > +1 > > Youw website is also good but may I ask (genuine question) why do you > think so many people use google fonts api? Is there really no > alternative? > -- - https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno - Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com gratis). - "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre. Por favor, veja formas de se comunicar instantaneamente comigo no endereço abaixo. - Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard - Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV. - Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser
When you quote automatically whole (especially lengthy posts) it is difficult to follow what exactly you are commenting on (without rereading the whole post). You obviously do this through email but please consider quoting only what you comment on. As for recommendations to web developers: I can assure you I have done this so many times. Including: to trisquel.info which has weak HTTP security headers: https://securityheaders.io/?q=https%3A%2F%2Ftrisquel.info=on I have sent this using the Contact link on this site. No reply so far. No fix either. Hopefully someone will look into it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser
And it's where these basic websites for paying bills get the most focus of web-vandals, because these websites have automatic client-side software being forced to end-user which just want to "get the bills paid". What you should do instead is contact the website owners and tell them to change to a solution which doesn't require any client-side software besides a browser with HTML and CSS support and no JS, extensions nor plug-ins. If you are not a programmer or not a web developer, tell them to contact libreplanet-discuss (this forum, trisquel-users, isn't for this kind of requests unfortunatelly), with more and more people doing the same for a given company they will eventually give it a try, if they ignore you, you have a reason to not use their disservice anymore. ;) 2018-01-12T01:17:01+0100 stu...@anchev.net wrote: > What's wrong with just calling it "privacy"? Privacy is important > enough on its own that I don't think we need to reframe the discussion > in ways that might cause confusion. > Nothing wrong at all. I just wanted to accent on the fact that for > people privacy (as a form of personal security) is more important then > the ability to inspect/change/redistribute. That's why I think we need > stronger criterion when evaluating the quality of software (or > hardware). As discussed here, just being free (in the FSF sense) is > obviously not enough and with the state of what is happening in the > world we need new things. Hence my idea about a new network. > > I will figure it out when I have more time. > You can also try wireshark. > > It doesn't seem to prove that no additional data is sent by Firefox or > Chromium during browsing, just that this data at minimum is sent on > startup. > I don't know what lower/upper-bond means but the very fact that any > browser which sends these packets without the user initiating > explicitly that communication is enough for me to mark it not privacy > respecting and not consider it for further testing. Of course you are > right - we need to test how it works during browsing. Perhaps the best > thing to do would be to keep it simple - e.g. opening remote txt or > html without scripts or extensions and looking at tcpdump. Let me know > if you have any better idea. > > I said that it had been closed, but it's alarming that it ever happened. > > That is in no way different from Ubuntu's case or from Mozilla's > telemetry. In such scenario, when flaws are all around, all we can do > is look at facts as they are right now: Chromium does not send packets > to any third party on startup. Konqueror sends no packets at all on > startup but has other issues as it seems. > > However, right now I am more concerned with the issues linked to by > Magic Banana, since they are active and haven't been adequately > addressed after several years. > I am honestly having a difficulty in understanding what you > mean. Aren't they primarily licensing issues? Why are you more > concerned about licensing while your browser is sending packets to > company X, Y, Z? Please explain as I may be missing something. > > Replicant, the operating system, is 100% libre. You are likely > referring to the modem or bootloader that the device itself uses > regardless of what operating system it runs. > Exactly. > > Purism's phone... > It is still not produced, so nobody can possibly evaluate it. But from > what I know there will be complete hardware separation between the > modem and the rest of the system. So you can use it as a pocket libre > computer, hopefully without any coreboot or whatever firmware blobs, > otherwise it won't be much different from a Samsung + Replicant. Also > from what I have heard, it would be able to use the mobile network as > a pipe, to make encrytped phone calls. So basically the only tracking > will be possible through the location of the phone based on nearby > mobile stations (which perhaps cannot be avoided if one wants to talk > to anybody). > > I suggest looking into JMP if you live in North America > I don't but thanks for the info. What you describe is similar to Librem5. > > In this case the advantage of using Tor is that you do not reveal your > location. This is especially important if it is a site or account you > use frequently (like an email provider) as otherwise they can track > you to the point of detecting behavioral patterns. > Sure. You can probably even use Facebook anonymously but FB (and many > other sites) won't allow you to sign up/in with a disposable email > address (they seem to recognize the domains). I know the FSF page > which you linked but it seems dated. From all the recommended ones > only safe-mail.net seems to work without JS but it requires a current > email address and I can't find any site which gives disposable email > without JS, so there is still no possibility for complete untraceable > anonymity. As for Kolabnow - I have been in touch with these guys and > asked them if they have cleaned their systems from Intel ME, >
Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser
To find out the possible issues with Chromium, I recommend you all to contribute to [1] and the discussion around it in [2]. If there is no review as to whether some software is free/libre or not, then we can only assume the worst case which Stallman and others keep showing in their talks: that it's non-free software. And the community here shouldn't recommend non-free software. I myself so far only contributed with a simple run of licensecheck [3] but as I explained in the reference, we need to clean that result (the reference talks about an attachment, but you must download it using the torrent Info hash in [1] instead, or run licensecheck against your own copy of Chromium's source code --- following the steps I gave in [1] or in [3]). Finally, the practice of using shorter license notices such as "licensed under SomeLicense" even if the "SomeLicense" itself already defines what the notice should be makes things more confusing (as I noted in [3]). About RSS (and generall news feed/reading: I don't like the RSS specification too, I prefer Atom feeds, specially if the makers of the feed post the complete article in the item). ;) Currently I'm experimenting with some famous news readers for Emacs: Newsticker (built-in), org-feed (built-in), elfeed (external). I'm also contributing to Newsticker and org-feed by testing them and sending detailed bug reports. I can't do that with elfeed because of GitHub issues well described in gnu.org. [1] https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Talk:Chromium. [2] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/directory-discuss/2017-11/msg1.html. [3] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/directory-discuss/2017-11/msg00014.html. 2018-01-09T19:47:02+0100 stu...@anchev.net wrote: > Could you please explain what freedom issues (apart from the one > mentioned by me) there are? I have always thought Chromium is FLOSS. > > > But I am not a programmer. And it seems no programmer has taken care > to remove them, yet the vendors claim it is free software respecting > privacy and people believe that. My test proves that it is not. And > that the vendor not only doesn't care but would rather argue with > proven and close the ticket. > > > Yes - IceCat, Waterfox. IceCat also does background communication on > startup. Waterfox shows the same behavior as Firefox. > > > Using uMatrix's background log I noticed that Tor Browser also sends > behind the scenes packets. I don't know if they go through the Tor > network but in any case - they are sent, without prior (or any) > consent. Some of them were to Mozilla's servers. I haven't tested > further or in more detail. > > > Thanks. I also just found QuiteRSS which has built in browser in which > JS can be disabled. But to my mind the very fact that the RSS reader > has support for JS makes me stay away from it. Perhaps I need to find > an command line tool or get rid of RSS totally... > -- - https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno - Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com gratis). - "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre. Por favor, veja formas de se comunicar instantaneamente comigo no endereço abaixo. - Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard - Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV. - Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Community guidelines question
You are good at it. your voice is pleasant. Also, I kept thinking about Snowden all the time while listening to you :P +1 Youw website is also good but may I ask (genuine question) why do you think so many people use google fonts api? Is there really no alternative?
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to start contribute
I wonder, is Java still a good recommendation? Some professional software companies are also going for Scheme, which GNU Guile understands well. I won't mention their names here because I don't want to serve as bait for openwashing, I think we deserve more than organizations using free/libre software, but everyone else using completely free/libre software (not just the parts a given company allows us to). Besides, Scheme itself has an XML parser and formatter which can also be used to deal (with) or generate (dynamic, server-side) HTML (I'm talking about 'sxml), and has embedded web server, plus other tricks that make learning programming very easy, but also makes the language stand out in other aspects compared to other languages. 2018-01-05T21:27:27+0100 b...@bobstechsite.com wrote: > One way is to join the Free Software Foundation as an associate > member: https://www.fsf.org/associate/ > Not only would you be contributing financially to people doing great > work, but it often leads people towards IRC and XMPP chats with people > who might have some ideas for you. But the easiest way to contribute > is to spread the word to friends & family, and boost good blog > articles on your social media accounts. > > Before committing yourself to buying fully-free kit, you should spend > some time using Trisquel GNU/Linux on your existing devices. You will > find things you are no longer able to do, and can make a judgement > call about whether this is the right route for you. Once you've spent > a few months with the system and want to take the next step, take a > look at this list of suppliers: https://libreboot.org/suppliers.html > > As for getting a job with the FSF itself... that's quite tricky as > they don't come up very often. If you want to switch career tracks try > learning Java (not JavaScript) as you'll have a wide pool of software > houses and consultancies to choose from. > > While I would love to work exclusively on free software, you'll > probably find like I did that's not always possible when you want to > put food on the table! The team I work in is called the "Open Source > Software Engineers" not because the code we write is free software but > because we used open source languages and technology stacks to write > proprietary middleware systems for clients. I also have to run Windows > on my work laptop because the corporate IT policy mandates I > must. (This is part of the reason I'm now retraining as a sysadmin) > -- - https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno - Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com gratis). - "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre. Por favor, veja formas de se comunicar instantaneamente comigo no endereço abaixo. - Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard - Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV. - Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
Uruk and Hyperbola are GNU systems surely, which they are surely committing for our philosophy for freedom.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Writing my ‘common distros’ for us in 2018
https://wiki.parabola.nu/User_talk:Hd_scania, https://t.me/qterminal, https://t.me/fdroid_gnu, feel free to chat with me in Telegram messenger and in my Parabola wiki homepage for furthermore discussions. :)
[Trisquel-users] Adding free software not found in Ubuntu like OpenRC?
Just due to my misconfigurations against some partitions with systems, parts of systemd systems like Trisquel is dead but never OpenRC ones like Hyperbola, Debian testing is alive and I'm using it to write this thread which I have ideas to dist-upgrade the system and all well done, but not yet working for Trisquel. Will Trisquel port some free software packages not found in Ubuntu, like OpenRC from Devuan, our another libre system erasing systemd and focusing on init freedom?
