Re: [Trisquel-users] ubuntu-gnome-desktop

2020-02-01 Thread mason
> Can this package be fixed so that it installs?

The package should probably be removed.  It's a metapackage to install
Ubuntu's GNOME flavor.  It's not useful in Trisquel.

> Trisquel's default setting really mess up GNOME.

Can you be more specific?


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Re: [Trisquel-users] ubuntu-gnome-desktop

2020-02-01 Thread Caleb Herbert
Can this package be fixed so that it installs? Trisquel's default
setting really mess up GNOME.

On 2/2/20 1:16 AM, ma...@masonhock.com wrote:
>> ubuntu-gnome-desktop : Depends: ubuntu-drivers-common but it is not
> installable
> 
> Trisquel does not package ubuntu-drivers-common.[1]
> 
> [1]
> https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/ubuntu-purge/blob/master/purge-xenial#L125
> 

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Re: [Trisquel-users] ubuntu-gnome-desktop

2020-02-01 Thread mason
> ubuntu-gnome-desktop : Depends: ubuntu-drivers-common but it is not  
installable


Trisquel does not package ubuntu-drivers-common.[1]

[1]  
https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/ubuntu-purge/blob/master/purge-xenial#L125


[Trisquel-users] ubuntu-gnome-desktop

2020-02-01 Thread Caleb Herbert
What's going on here?

cal@bender:~$ sudo apt install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[sudo] password for cal:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 ubuntu-gnome-desktop : Depends: ubuntu-drivers-common but it is not
installable
Recommends: app-install-data-partner but it is
not installable
Recommends: apport-gtk but it is not going to be
installed
Recommends: brltty but it is not going to be
installed
Recommends: deja-dup-backend-cloudfiles but it
is not going to be installed
Recommends: deja-dup-backend-s3 but it is not
going to be installed
Recommends: empathy but it is not going to be
installed
Recommends: evolution but it is not going to be
installed
Recommends: fwupd
Recommends: fwupdate but it is not installable
Recommends: fwupdate-signed but it is not
installable
Recommends: gnome-accessibility-profiles but it
is not going to be installed
Recommends: gnome-calendar but it is not going
to be installed
Recommends: gnome-getting-started-docs but it is
not going to be installed
Recommends: gnome-maps but it is not going to be
installed
Recommends: gnome-music but it is not going to
be installed
Recommends: gnome-photos but it is not going to
be installed
Recommends: gnome-software but it is not going
to be installed
Recommends: gnome-weather but it is not going to
be installed
Recommends: gvfs-fuse but it is not going to be
installed
Recommends: kerneloops-daemon but it is not
going to be installed
Recommends: libproxy1-plugin-gsettings but it is
not going to be installed
Recommends: libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager but
it is not going to be installed
Recommends: libreoffice-ogltrans but it is not
going to be installed
Recommends: libwmf0.2-7-gtk but it is not going
to be installed
Recommends: mcp-account-manager-goa but it is
not going to be installed
Recommends: nautilus-share but it is not going
to be installed
Recommends: numix-gtk-theme but it is not going
to be installed
Recommends: plymouth-theme-ubuntu-gnome-logo but
it is not going to be installed
Recommends: plymouth-theme-ubuntu-gnome-text but
it is not going to be installed
Recommends: policykit-desktop-privileges but it
is not going to be installed
Recommends: printer-driver-brlaser but it is not
going to be installed
Recommends: printer-driver-c2esp but it is not
going to be installed
Recommends: printer-driver-ptouch but it is not
going to be installed
Recommends: printer-driver-sag-gdi but it is not
going to be installed
Recommends: rhythmbox-plugin-magnatune but it is
not going to be installed
Recommends: snapd but it is not installable
Recommends: telepathy-idle but it is not going
to be installed
Recommends: ubuntu-gnome-wallpapers but it is
not going to be installed
Recommends: whoopsie but it is not going to be
installed
Recommends: xul-ext-ubufox but it is not going
to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] monitor traffic

2020-02-01 Thread beformed

I'm glad you found the proper tool for you.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Recommended certificate provider

2020-02-01 Thread trisquel
Thanks for the comments on my question. Maybe it should have gone into a  
different category like "general" so I do appreciate your feedback.


You are right - I'm actually not as concerned about the software cert  
companies use as about their tracking. Are there any ethical certificate  
companies that don't track the sites that use their certs? So the freedoms  
I'm concerned about are the freedoms not to be tracked and controlled by this  
new "licensing" of the web. Of course ISP's and hosts track activity, so you  
can't get around the fact that people have to run the infrastructure to make  
online interactions possible and they obviously track activity.


But if Let's Encrypt is backed by Torvalds, Google, Facebook and any other  
friends in the silicon valley, are we fools to think they aren't collecting  
all stats and monetizing that? What stops any certificate company from  
monetizing the data boom they receive from our sites?



Another thing to be curious about is the script that Let's Encrypt runs on a  
server to constantly monitor and update the certificate... It may be free,  
open-source, inspectable, but it's still tracking constantly and each site is  
the data boom/sale.


So, I am still on a search for a trust-able ethical cert company. If that  
even exists. Otherwise I will have to come to terms with the fact that it  
doesn't exist.


Thank you


Re: [Trisquel-users] monitor traffic

2020-02-01 Thread tr33hugger




Got the vnstat working using the terminal. I followed the tutorial;

https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/vnstat-network-monitoring-ubuntu/

result =
user@user-ThinkPad-X60:~$ vnstat

rx / tx / total / estimated
wls3: Not enough data available yet.
ens2:
Jan '20 1.09 GiB / 39.64 MiB / 1.13 GiB
Feb '20 281.75 MiB / 9.82 MiB / 291.56 MiB / 10.90 GiB
yesterday 134.94 MiB / 5.96 MiB / 140.90 MiB
today 281.75 MiB / 9.82 MiB / 291.56 MiB / 384 MiB

that's good.





Re: [Trisquel-users] monitor traffic

2020-02-01 Thread tr33hugger

Got the vnstat working using the terminal. I followed the tutorial;

https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/vnstat-network-monitoring-ubuntu/

result =
user@user-ThinkPad-X60:~$ vnstat

  rx  /  tx  / total/   estimated
 wls3: Not enough data available yet.
 ens2:
   Jan '20  1.09 GiB  /   39.64 MiB  /1.13 GiB
   Feb '20281.75 MiB  /9.82 MiB  /  291.56 MiB  /   10.90 GiB
 yesterday134.94 MiB  /5.96 MiB  /  140.90 MiB
 today281.75 MiB  /9.82 MiB  /  291.56 MiB  / 384 MiB

that's good.




Re: [Trisquel-users] monitor traffic

2020-02-01 Thread tr33hugger
Thanks but I'm useless when it comes to using the command line and writing  
code.


Pointing and clicking with a graphical user interface is usually my way.

How do you start vnstat ?




Re: [Trisquel-users] Is trisquel using OpenSMTPD ?

2020-02-01 Thread jason
Comparing distro package version numbers to upstream package version numbers  
isn't the correct way to determine if a security vulnerability exists within  
distro packages like this. Assuming that a program contains a security  
problem they are commonly fixed by backporting only the actual security patch  
itself and leaving it at the same version.


An example is this here:
https://www.debian.org/security/2020/dsa-4611

Debian fixes it in version 6.0.3p1-5+deb10u3.

And so: Someone that only compares version numbers would see "Oh noes - I  
have 6.0.3p1 which is less than 6.6.2p1 and so I am still vulnerable" when in  
fact they are not.


[Trisquel-users] Can your GIMP import and export ORA images?

2020-02-01 Thread xliang9550
I have installed the package "gimp-plugin-registry" but nothing changed. The  
Open Raster format (*.ora) didn't appear in the file format lists.


Re: [Trisquel-users] monitor traffic

2020-02-01 Thread beformed

You could use:

vnstat: This is a command line tool that does what you're looking for
iftop: Another command line tool that resembles top


Re: [Trisquel-users] monitor traffic

2020-02-01 Thread tr33hugger

posted twice by accident to change a word.


[Trisquel-users] monitor traffic

2020-02-01 Thread tr33hugger
I would like a simple traffic monitor with a display showing download +  
upload, daily weekly monthly figures. vnstat is installed but i don't know  
how to start it. Terminal command line code is a mystery to me.


Is there a GUI for vnstat ? (in win 7 netmeter is used)

thanks.


[Trisquel-users] monitor traffic

2020-02-01 Thread tr33hugger
I would like a simple traffic monitor with a display showing download +  
upload, daily weekly monthly figures. vnstat is installed but i don't know  
how to start it. Terminal command line code is a mystery to me.


Is there a GUI for vnstat ? (in win 7 netmonitor is used)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Recommended certificate provider

2020-02-01 Thread J.B. Nicholson

trisq...@posteo.net wrote:

Is there such a thing as a "libre" certificate authority or provider?


What did you mean when you wrote that? Free in what sense?

Software freedom ("logiciel libre" in French) refers to the freedoms users have with 
the software they possess. While one hopes certificate signers use exclusively free 
software (they deserve to control their computers too), whatever software each signer 
uses is their choice to make.


You seem more concerned with other aspects of browsing privacy and control over your 
website but those issues don't have anything to do with free software and it's not 
clear what specific freedoms you're referring to.